what to do first for more speed?

[Lean Wid IT]

yeh fellas i wanna upgrade for more speed...but i aint turboing yet...no paper for dat now and i wanna keep it n/a to prove ppl worng...so what should i do first to get more speed?...and reach d 180 mark faster?.and grow on top end....CAI?....what?......all are welcome
it's a 4g92 SOHC

[X_Factor]

yep...CAI, Extractors, 2inch piping, Iridum plugs, 8.8mm plug wires, then u could go wit upgraded ECU/piggy back

[Corollaman]

Don't forget about your braking system too eh

[X_Factor]

^^ EBC disc pads

[ziggi_d]

the car comes with excellent plug wires, extractors already! Exhaust upgrade, free flow filter (i had plenty experience with that good and bad) and a good tune up for starters. lots of little things will help. PLease make shure ur brakes are in eXcellent working order b4 u speed plz! these little things cost a little raise so these are a few to start with. ECU and them thing goh come after!

[bOOsTmaN]

yeh fellas i wanna upgrade for more speed...but i aint turboing yet...no paper for dat now and i wanna keep it n/a to prove ppl worng...so what should i do first to get more speed?...and reach d 180 mark faster?.and grow on top end....CAI?....what?......all are welcome
it's a 4g92 SOHC

ent u is d one who say yuh driving slow dese days??? wallerfield close...
where u goin n do 180km hoss? legally?

[JJ16]

ammm why not jus put in some cams,low compression pistons and like a turbo and manifold..
tha shud be enough speed

[MISHI]

He want's to keep it n/a.

Basic mods would be to upgrade the Intake and exhaust. 2" is good. a good CAI setup will help you as well.

A set of TUNED extractors... not the stock manifold and not what people making here....

A lighter body oil will help the car rev a bit better (note don't use too thin an oil)

An underdrive pully will also help revs more...

Outside of that, you can get a larger throttlebody.. to improve throttle response

Even add another throttlebody (but requires extra things such as piggyback ecu etc)

Some stage 1-2 cams....

Some sort of engine management system...

[evokiller]

u buy 2 throttlebodies and install them?? tll me more bout this plase mishi.....also wat cams u recommend?? this was a question i had 4 a while..

[X_Factor]

i was tempted to do a dyno test b4 and after a locally made set of extractors were made but that might end up being a waste of 1200 or so

[MISHI]

u buy 2 throttlebodies and install them?? tll me more bout this plase mishi.....also wat cams u recommend?? this was a question i had 4 a while..

no didn't buy but RPW sells them. Interesting piece of Kit IMHO.

http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?op ... 20-%204cyl

RPW also deals with the cams so you can check it out there...

[evokiller]

o sorry nah i left out "could" inthe beginning of the sentance...my keyboard decided 2 be difficult that night.......on this rpw site i cant seem 2 find the cams atall though mishi

[Rudman]

^^Before U even think about RPW, bear in mind they are halfway around the world in Australia. The shipping is what does kill.

Be prepared to spend $4000 + for the extractors alone!...

For what? 5-8hp gain from stock (depending on what additional mods U do)?

These are 4-1 headers BTW.

[evokiller]

hahaha yeah i kinda didnt tink of that...and dude....a cam for my car...{yess i said cam } 5000!!!! lol bess i buy a evo engine and drop it in dude haha

[blazing]

u buy 2 throttlebodies and install them??

look at trouble

[evokiller]

lol wat dat supposed 2mean hoss haha?

[blazing]

^^well first you will have to weld the second TB flange to the plenum(aluminium welding) then you have to set up a throttle cable to open the second TB after the first one has been opened to a certain degree

and tuning twin TBs are a biatch. have to take in consideration the size of the second TB, turbulence that air in opposite directions meeting will cause, fuel, etc. Its slightly easier on the MAP 1.5s but the MAFs will be tough.

just get a single bigger TB and port match the plenum.

[evokiller]

hoss 2 things.....1)u see the kinda money for it? and the shipping...i culd get a whole engine wen i done buy forged pistons and the throttlebodies hahah
and 2)hoss is surgury u talking bout there brother...hoss wat is all dat wayssssssssssssssssssssss lol hoss my mouth drop with dat 1....normally wen mishi or venum lay down something 4me its easy....i swear u speaking a form of tongues there jedz...u a mech or wha ?? I dont even wanna look in this thread nemore jedz....mishi lock it nah jedz this man giveme a late night headache/tabanca and early life crisis yesss

[blazing]

lol what so hard?


here is the pic from rpw.



silver thing is the plenum, with TBs on either side.
now this is already set up and hence you only need to unbolt and bolt on. To make one from scratch (aluminium welding etc) is cheaper but MUCH harder to do properly.

AS for tuning, you can see this is MAP based in the pic. For the MAF sensors in the 4g92/4g93 its gonna be even harder to tune since air is metered before the manifold and the additional air from the 2nd TB will cause problems as its unmetered.

And no im no mech, jus try a thing.
Best advice, upgrade to an eclipse TB and do the mods that MISHI suggested.

[evokiller]

or okies it makes sense now..the major part i was lost with ws the plenum but ill google dat

[Lean Wid IT]

Don't forget about your braking system too eh

i have 4wheel discs already installed...so i one step ahead

[iamjack]

Don't forget about your braking system too eh

i have 4wheel discs already installed...so i one step ahead

how'd you do that or how do you improve braking
ive got a fwd setup

[Lean Wid IT]

yeh fellas i wanna upgrade for more speed...but i aint turboing yet...no paper for dat now and i wanna keep it n/a to prove ppl worng...so what should i do first to get more speed?...and reach d 180 mark faster?.and grow on top end....CAI?....what?......all are welcome
it's a 4g92 SOHC

ent u is d one who say yuh driving slow dese days??? wallerfield close...
where u goin n do 180km hoss? legally?

hoss doh study dat....

[JJ16]

Don't forget about your braking system too eh

i have 4wheel discs already installed...so i one step ahead

how'd you do that or how do you improve braking
ive got a fwd setup

amm u do that buy buying the rear disc brakes for ur car

and well u cud improve uh braking in many ways...depending on how much money u wanna spend.

[Lean Wid IT]

Don't forget about your braking system too eh

i have 4wheel discs already installed...so i one step ahead

how'd you do that or how do you improve braking
ive got a fwd setup

look for rear discs..i heard the bamboo got...so try there n see

[Kronik]

is about 2K the setup going for now

[iamjack]

adding rear discs would mean there would be 4 disc pads?
which would make my car not a fwd drive car?

pardon my noobness

[Kronik]

you will have all wheel disc brakes.........i still have to do the conversion in my lancer, but when i do it i will show you iamjack

[Corollaman]

Don't forget about your braking system too eh

i have 4wheel discs already installed...so i one step ahead

Ahh, but what did you do about the brakes in front?

[Rudman]

adding rear discs would mean there would be 4 disc pads?
which would make my car not a fwd drive car?

pardon my noobness

Eh?......noobness aside, having 4 disc pads to stop a car does not make it an AWD! It would still be a FWD.

What is involved in making a car an AWD (in a nutshell) is the use of a transfer drive, rear differential and rear drive axels to deliver torque to the rear wheels, in addition to what is already going to the front. See this lovely pic here from another thread: