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WTK mods for a 20v
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 12:24 pm
by A172
Hey guys
Got a pardna with a 4age Blacktop in a ole corolla...
He find the car not getting the 'kick' he was expecting when he did the conversion...sr20de and b16a still eating 'im up nah...
Motor is stock w/ 2" piping straight thru and a k&n high performance filter
Any advice
Thx a lot.
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 12:34 pm
by honda hoe
steups
not dis again
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 2:36 pm
by eliteauto
let him get a tune up, is he manual or auto? what oil is he using, is his thermostat installed, lots of questions still
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 2:56 pm
by shinakuma
If he expecting great performance then he needs to watch Initial D 1st to 4th stage @ least twice a wk dat seems to help d other 20v men.
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 3:03 pm
by honda hoe
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 3:57 pm
by A172
corollalover101 wrote:let him get a tune up, is he manual or auto? what oil is he using, is his thermostat installed, lots of questions still
it's manual....the man service injectors, clean TB, mobil1 10w30 inside, brand new thermo etc....yunno nah, all the bess mods for a 20v...
yet it still sloww
think it could be sumn electrical
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 10:19 pm
by haydn28
if it is an electrical problem check meh @3327056 i go sort u out
what kind a corollA It in pappy?
alyuh do a diagnosis? compression test? dem bamboo engine does need a good going over.
u have a 20v pathna?
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 10:22 pm
by relaps
something is wrong with that engine horse
i think u got a six for a nine
take a tuneup and timing and then see what happens
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 10:30 pm
by A172
relaps, me eh know nah
I tell d man dai just how 20v does work....he sayin nah
haydn28, will put him on to you.
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 10:37 pm
by haydn28
A172 wrote:relaps, me eh know nah
I tell d man dai just how 20v does work....he sayin nah
haydn28, will put him on to you.
test timing . set @ 15 degrees at least, but dont expect no big ting ( watch Inital D after for a 20v power pack boost up)
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 11:07 pm
by eliteauto
haydn28, how you get to 10,000 rpm? what engine is that and what mods were done?
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 11:17 pm
by gt4tified
cl101, the more important question is: with a 10k rpm 20v corolla, why would I post a facking supra as my avatar?
I tell d man dai just how 20v does work....he sayin nah Neutral
A172, this isn't another of your "chain up" threads is it?
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 11:32 pm
by eliteauto
if a man hitting 10,000 RPM dat is the man to tune de 20V for yuh pardner
Posted: April 27th, 2009, 11:53 pm
by RASC
shinakuma wrote:If he expecting great performance then he needs to watch Initial D 1st to 4th stage @ least twice a wk dat seems to help d other 20v men.
I Lolz'd
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 8:42 am
by haydn28
cl101, the more important question is: with a 10k rpm 20v corolla, why would I post a facking supra as my avatar?
gt4tified that is my fav car; TRD 3000GT soooo why allyuh have a prob with it ? is ah toyota
and my corolla can rev to 10000rpm..
secret: it have management so i can raise the rev limit. I only do this in 1st gear when load is minimal
cause as u know high revs are detrimental to an engine ( and i really dont care if i mash up) .. for all the 20v men - it seems as if d 20v does work better reving the hell out of it ,fact. at least mine does ( 8700rpm in 2nd and 8000 in 3rd)
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 8:56 am
by eliteauto
you need management to hit 10,000 rpm
the other rpms in 2nd and 3rd seem normal and if you dyno your car I'm sure you're making power at those revs, but then I'm sure with your vast 20V knowledge you already knew that right? help
A172,'s friend to meet his goals nah ( however limited they are)
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 9:02 am
by honda hoe
you need management to hit 10,000 rpm
it have management so i can raise the rev limit
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 9:12 am
by haydn28
@ 10000rpm ring to cylinder wall friction is kill ing power but i revin it to get going in 2nd gear, cl101 d 20v dead unless u rev it. and u sounding skeptical bout d management.. u ever tune a car? oh hor, also 12.5 :1 afr seems to agree to this engine well and 22 degrees of timing on load.
and people as i said I DONT CARE IF I MASH UP! i have a 4efte on standby
i am not a 20v guru i an just a mad scientist
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 9:13 am
by A172
so now 20v ched not welcome no more?
I thought tha was d only thing allowed in this forum from the looks of it
Meh pardna just want he car to be fass like the others in here
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 9:21 am
by haydn28
A172 wrote:so now 20v ched not welcome no more?
I thought tha was d only thing allowed in this forum from the looks of it
Meh pardna just want he car to be fass like the others in here
x2
i actually tryin to help 20v men and they on my case
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 9:24 am
by eliteauto
haydn28,
you real wild yuh know
, but it have sense in yuh post too eh, the engine is bleah until you rev it and 12.5 is nice, I suppose you're fueling with meth or race gas? I've never tuned a car, because I've never been interested in speed so a good working reliable stock car is good enough for me
A172, tell your pardner sell the car and buy a car with a B16A or SR20DE he eh have much hope with dem 20V
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 9:34 am
by A172
corollalover101, all sh1t talk aside....
whaz the simplest way to get torque gains on the 20v? Cuz i find altho you guys could swing to 10million rpm, max tq is almost the same at a stock fte
Could that be the limitation on the motor?
btw, I saw yuh post last night eh
my fte still BONE stock, inside and out
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 9:35 am
by haydn28
i lookin to increase compression in d engine to 12.5: 1 with water injection for cooling , will keep u guys updated on it.
A172 tell yuh pardna check meh Saturday
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 9:51 am
by honda hoe
at the end of the day a 20valve is a 1.6 engine
is only so much u could get outta it
i think ppl expect more outta it cuz the common misconception is that its a 2 litre engine
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 10:05 am
by eliteauto
A172, my 20V still bone stock too
on the real, I've found most swaps (20V) to be unimpressive compared to say a car that comes stock with the engine, because there are little things that are missing unless the swap was taken from a front half also there are different ecu's for the engine depending on which car the engine came from, if you pardner wants his car to perform better I can recommend he come see me
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 10:07 am
by eliteauto
haydn28 wrote:i lookin to increase compression in d engine to 12.5: 1 with water injection for cooling , will keep u guys updated on it.
A172 tell yuh pardna check meh Saturday
if this is serious I'm interested in seeing your injection setup, it's something I'm considering for an engine I'm planning to build
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 10:07 am
by A172
honda hoe wrote:at the end of the day a 20valve is a 1.6 engine
is only so much u could get outta it
i think ppl expect more outta it cuz the common misconception is that its a 2 litre engine
so why all the rate up for d b16a then?
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 10:18 am
by honda hoe
A172 wrote:honda hoe wrote:at the end of the day a 20valve is a 1.6 engine
is only so much u could get outta it
i think ppl expect more outta it cuz the common misconception is that its a 2 litre engine
so why all the rate up for d b16a then?
ummm....
honda logic i guess
1.6 vtec bussin up 2.0 SR
jus like how YOU ratin up yuh 1.3 bussin up 20valve
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 10:25 am
by A172
honda hoe,
for once I would agree with you judging on facts rather than fairy dust logic
I know you had your experiences wit your b16 that tap up motors people claim it couldn't
same ting here how men claim stock 4e can't run with a 20v
wouldn't call it rating up based on that
Posted: April 28th, 2009, 10:31 am
by honda hoe
fairy dust logic