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The 4AGE maintainence/mod thread
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 12:16 am
by eliteauto
Ok I'm seeing a lil smoke coming out when I rev up top, i'm suspecting that the rings may be going bad, engine is a 4AGE 20V Silvertop doing around 165000 KM.
Has anyone ever changed their rings and where were they sourced, wanna get an average of what this will cost me in terms of cash and downtime
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 8:45 am
by pyromaniak
Hmmm..... I was watchin the smoke at dex and was wondering if your valve seals were bad.
Ralph is going to Barbados at the end of November he should be able to pick them up from Nasco.
Other than that order from Toyota here and wait ah 4-6 weeks.
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 9:37 am
by sadique
padna u dont hav to wait dat long... u cud get rings in any parts place..im tlkin about RIK-rings..STD 4AFE normally for d AE101...iv tried it & it works..it costs bout $350.-$400!
Posted: November 2nd, 2008, 7:28 pm
by eliteauto
sadique, I'll look into that, thanks
Posted: November 2nd, 2008, 7:51 pm
by sadique
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 2:46 pm
by rolling_hard
sadique, where exactly u getting those ring i need a set
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 5:36 pm
by Dave
most of the times its the valve seals and if oil loss is non-existent then valve seals could be the culprit
yes i also know someone who used 4afe rings on the 4age and the RIK brand is a Japanese one and works very well
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 6:08 pm
by cressida_override
from my recent experience if u get smoke while reving hard or when u start could be valve seals, if u get smoke constantly while driving it will be rings.....downtime could be a couple days, depends on mechanic! check gobins or a1 auto supplies for the parts.
Posted: November 5th, 2008, 3:53 pm
by turboturtle
padna u dont hav to wait dat long... u cud get rings in any parts place..im tlkin about RIK-rings..STD 4AFE normally for d AE101...iv tried it & it works..it costs bout $350.-$400!
Would this work for the 4age black top as well?
Posted: November 6th, 2008, 11:16 am
by eliteauto
as this thread is up maybe I could expand my database, so next question
Outside of Toyota has anyone sourced the valve seals for the 20V?
Posted: November 6th, 2008, 12:25 pm
by TRD_FACTORY
I have a new set of forged pistons with rings for the 16v 4age 8.9cr. Not sure if it will work on the 20v?
Posted: November 6th, 2008, 4:33 pm
by eliteauto
doubtful the cr on a 20V is 10. and 11.0
Posted: November 10th, 2008, 10:11 am
by eliteauto
corollalover101 wrote:as this thread is up maybe I could expand my database, so next question
Outside of Toyota has anyone sourced the valve seals for the 20V?
Posted: November 17th, 2008, 12:50 pm
by eliteauto
Right so I'll be changing the valve seals, rings, head gasket and grinding the valves. Hopefully I'll get another 16 years out the engine
Posted: November 17th, 2008, 8:26 pm
by 33 hertz
What bout bearings, timing belt, water pump?
Posted: November 17th, 2008, 11:09 pm
by eliteauto
timing belt, cam seals, front seals, thermostat were changed already, might change water pump , doubtful about bearings, some items a bit difficult to source
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 8:02 am
by Anton
The water pump change is a good addition to your already stellar list.
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 8:40 am
by eliteauto
thanks
33 hertz, and
Anton, this is the purpose of the thread to allow for brainstorming and for those who've gone before to share their experience, I know that for my other 'rollas I get water pumps outside, is any pump from the more popular engines compatible with the 4AGE?
I've also decided to swap the stock fuel pump with one from the Supra Turbo, it's a straight drop in and I'll add an HKS FCD, to eliminate fuel cut, the car is by no means intended to be a speed demon, just a reliable daily driver with all creature comforts and it's still automatic
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 9:01 am
by dmitc
corollalover101 wrote:thanks
33 hertz, and
Anton, this is the purpose of the thread to allow for brainstorming and for those who've gone before to share their experience, I know that for my other 'rollas I get water pumps outside, is any pump from the more popular engines compatible with the 4AGE?
I've also decided to swap the stock fuel pump with one from the Supra Turbo, it's a straight drop in and
I'll add an HKS FCD, to eliminate fuel cut, the car is by no means intended to be a speed demon, just a reliable daily driver with all creature comforts and it's still automatic
Let me know how this workes, I am considering going this route
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 11:40 am
by Anton
the pump for the 20v is readily available. I had gotton mines at Gobin's in St Augustine. The 16 v pump will line up, but the impellar, gasket and pulley is different.
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 12:04 pm
by turboturtle
I really need to get the piston ring set for the 4age black top engine. Toyota has it for 1200TT but will have to wait 3 weeks.
Has anyone ever rebuitl there Blacktop
Pls Help
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 12:29 pm
by Hook
group buy on the FCD?
Posted: November 22nd, 2008, 1:42 am
by AE92 hatch
hav a set of new rings available....pm me if interested.
Posted: January 6th, 2009, 1:17 am
by Bigmanbandy
Timing belt $110 in south, Princess Town Auto. And the quality looks good too. A place in P'town have st belt for $75.
Posted: January 9th, 2009, 9:29 am
by Bigmanbandy
Simmons have rebuilt many of them. He is known as a Toyota guru. Even the DK of Trinidad Kerry Phillip relies on his guidance. He is based in St. James.
Posted: January 9th, 2009, 10:15 am
by eliteauto
^^any contact# or directions?
Posted: January 28th, 2009, 3:00 pm
by eliteauto
ok I've gotten my head gasket, valve seals ( 12 intake, 8 exhaust) brake master cylinder rubber kit, gonna change em on Monday
Posted: February 13th, 2009, 10:25 am
by eliteauto
Has anyone ever been able to stop the "tap tap" lifter noises of the 20V? I was told it may be the buckets but it seems almost every 20V I hear makes that noise ( what we call noisy tappets). Heard there are mechs who have successfully quieted down the noise.. Anyone?
Posted: February 13th, 2009, 10:30 am
by rolling_hard
turboturtle wrote:I really need to get the piston ring set for the 4age black top engine. Toyota has it for 1200TT but will have to wait 3 weeks.
Has anyone ever rebuitl there Blacktop
Pls Help
is it to late to answer this.................but i build over mine jus a few weeks ago ne thing i can help u with
Posted: February 13th, 2009, 10:42 am
by turboturtle
rolling_hard wrote:turboturtle wrote:I really need to get the piston ring set for the 4age black top engine. Toyota has it for 1200TT but will have to wait 3 weeks.
Has anyone ever rebuitl there Blacktop
Pls Help
is it to late to answer this.................but i build over mine jus a few weeks ago ne thing i can help u with
Not to late... I'm about to finish gathering the parts but still :
Did you change your bearings...?price place
Did you change timing belt? price place
Did you rebore your block ?
How long does it take to break in if you re-bored?
Thanks
