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MSD IGNITION
Posted: June 19th, 2008, 1:26 pm
by MazGT
hey guys i'm planning on gettin a MSD IGNITION AND A MSD BLASTER COIL for AE111 TOYOTA GT SPRINTER WITH A 4AGE 20V BLACK-TOP ENGINE just wanna if i gotta make any major changes or is it just a bolt up work? THANK IN ADVANCE GUYS.
Posted: June 19th, 2008, 4:20 pm
by gt4tified
The more important question is Why are you changing from the stock ignition?
Are you running aftermarket cams, boost, or such heavy mods? Toyotas come with very beefy ignition systems, as simple as they seem. Only if for some reason your stock ignition is not delivering a 100% spark then I'd suggest you change over. Sure an MSD ignition looks nice and surely performs, but unless you need a bigger spark its really not necessary.
I'd suggest you spend the money behind some cams with more aggressive profiles and some tuning.
Posted: June 20th, 2008, 9:04 am
by MazGT
i get ah kinda lazy start not the one turn start i want and plus i am goin to do some mods so i decided on upgrading my ignition system first since it aint cost tht much and the person i bought the car from had it in and took it out before they sold the car, why i dont know.
Posted: June 20th, 2008, 11:30 pm
by gt4tified
Ok kewl, it should bolt up but lemme investigulate and get back to ya. In the meantime, whey Strauss and Smokey1275? Dem is de 4age and 4agze masters!
Posted: June 23rd, 2008, 8:46 am
by Dave
msd would aid a easier start but it sounds like u have something else wrong
with the box and coil u gonna run lean and u would be fuel to compensate for it
Posted: June 23rd, 2008, 9:05 am
by MazGT
cool man!
Posted: June 25th, 2008, 9:09 pm
by Evolved Automotive Ltd
actually i disagree
and not just becuase i sell ignition products
more spark equals better throttle response better fuel economy
at high revs and high boost spark become less effective leading to
black smoke and incomplete combustion which is poor efficiency.
anyone who has used nology has seen imediate improvement in throttle response
helps with that infamous dead spot, better idle less black smoke imporved fuel economy.
pass by the store sometime bring your plug and wires and ill demonstrate
ask sleeper tercel or any other nology customer and they will tell you
just my 2 cents
Posted: June 25th, 2008, 10:05 pm
by gt4tified
Exactly what did I say that you disagree with....I see nothing there. You talking about plug wires and he was referring to igntion module and coil. Hell, even I know about wear and tear on stock igntion wires....so what's ur point hombre?
Posted: June 25th, 2008, 10:30 pm
by Hook
lol....simmer down boys
de man getting a hard start and immediately jump to changing coil?
have you checked ur plugs? the gap? the wires?
I not disputing that these upgrades are good stuff, or the fact that Toyota already makes beefy ignition systems...but at the first sign of a little trouble with a system that has to many disposable components, I find u jump quick to throw away d ting!
Posted: June 26th, 2008, 12:29 am
by Evolved Automotive Ltd
lol
not picking fight here gt4
Allow me to appologize if i came off that way
just from trial i realise more spark on a 20v really makes a noticable difference,also the man said he is looking to do some mods
and from my comparison the msd arent what they are cracked up to be.
i have tested them side by side with nology and they dont stand up.
plugs the wires i described behave like amplifiers. Amplify spark 300 times the stock
hence no need for upgrade coil, spark from wires surpase msd blaster
nology also offers coils anf igniters/amplifiers if u want even more
u can check it out here there are some details
http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/vie ... highlight=
and agreed he can have a number of probs
ranging from cold start solenoid
timing
plugs
wires
dist. carbons
low compression
starter
and my personal favorite GREMLINS
let me know if u want 20v trouble shooting guide borrow, i have 1
Posted: June 26th, 2008, 2:38 am
by herb1
@corolla GT: send please
hishaam.herbst@gmail.com
BTW nice info gents

Posted: June 26th, 2008, 1:43 pm
by gt4tified
Not picking a fight with anyone....as a matter of fact, I know nothing of 20valves, having never owned one. So I'll do us all a favour and shut up until someone talks about the 3sgte.

Posted: June 26th, 2008, 3:30 pm
by MazGT
nah hook planning on doing tht this weekend, i actually checked the ignition and it measured ok from wht i got in the service manual. i just hv to get a tester tht can measure kilo-ohms and i will be testing every single electrical thing in the engine....also hook i did check the plug leads and found a little corrosion, could tht be one of my i believe many problems?
Posted: June 26th, 2008, 3:44 pm
by Evolved Automotive Ltd
actually i have a power fc for 3s gte lying around
and an 8 lb flyhweel
pm me if interested
Posted: June 26th, 2008, 5:07 pm
by gt4tified
that would be for the ST205 celica. Power FC was never made for the genII 3sgte.
If you have some st205 cams then we in bizniz!

Posted: June 26th, 2008, 9:43 pm
by Evolved Automotive Ltd
it came off an mr2
cams i can get from my peeps in jap.
do u want me to get a quote for u
if so what brand lift and duration
got these last year sold uhm to customer with 86 corolla
Posted: June 26th, 2008, 11:13 pm
by gt4tified
corolla_GT wrote:it came off an mr2
cams i can get from my peeps in jap.
do u want me to get a quote for u
if so what brand lift and duration

got these last year sold uhm to customer with 86 corolla
Sorry, I forgot that the genIII also came in the mr2 1995-1999 model. Do you have the turbo off that same mr2 though. Looking for stock genIII 3sgte cams, a set of coilovers for the celica and some 15" OZ Rallye rims (5 x 100).
Posted: June 27th, 2008, 8:46 am
by Evolved Automotive Ltd
rims and coiovers are easy
coilvers jic 3500
white oz 15
like what the evo 3 come with 3500 with tyres but what is evo hole spacing?
cam will have to get from japan will try and get price in a few days
do u want gen111 head and block?
Posted: June 27th, 2008, 9:03 am
by Evolved Automotive Ltd
nice about 2200 TT for gen111 cams incuding shipping from japan
gen v engine minus gear box and computer avaliable
including turbo
Posted: June 27th, 2008, 11:15 pm
by gt4tified
GenIV you mean, from the Caldina? I heard there's an entire front clip somewhere in the bamboo. Do you have the coilovers in T&T and did you bring those in urself?
Posted: June 29th, 2008, 10:32 am
by Evolved Automotive Ltd
rims here, and actually the rims did come on a celica
can give u for 3k
cams and engine in japan and yes gen v caldina, thats what the jap told me
they scrapped tranny off it and ecu so just engine avaliable
front half on bamboo is 25k i believe.
coilovers in jap also
will take 6 weeks to ship shocks
1 week for cams
6 weeks for engine
power fc here as well
and rims here now with tyres eh
let me know we can work out good prices
would like someone to represent the celica well
its long since been under appreciated in Trinidad