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Postby honda hoe » October 11th, 2009, 1:33 am

pioneer in a tech ched?

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Postby Zeriam » October 11th, 2009, 10:17 am

corollalover101 wrote:Zeriam, is the guy using a single fogger or direct port setup for the nitrous?
next time i see him i'll ask

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Postby A172 » October 12th, 2009, 10:03 pm

:bump:

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Postby Hook » October 12th, 2009, 10:12 pm

:lol:

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Postby eliteauto » October 12th, 2009, 10:14 pm

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Postby eliteauto » October 12th, 2009, 10:51 pm

To get answers from the great tuners here.......

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Postby Hook » October 12th, 2009, 10:52 pm

:lol: *dedz*

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Postby A172 » October 12th, 2009, 10:55 pm

so how the nawse research coming along?

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Postby turbohead » October 12th, 2009, 11:11 pm

Zeriam wrote:
corollalover101 wrote:Zeriam, is the guy using a single fogger or direct port setup for the nitrous?
next time i see him i'll ask

i know of one also wat car do you speak of?

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Postby haydn28 » October 13th, 2009, 5:39 am

A172 wrote:so how the nawse research coming along?



cl101 in the future :shock:


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Postby eliteauto » October 13th, 2009, 7:44 am

wooogad look me, pabloTT, advil and TRDCorolla :fadein: :fadein:

*disclaimer* advil won because he knew what AFR to run on his stock ecu :x

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Postby Hook » October 13th, 2009, 8:06 am

prolly tuned his thermostat too...I wasn't there sadly...my blue nike juzee was at the dry cleaners :(

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Postby eliteauto » October 13th, 2009, 8:35 am

^^hoss we doh deal up in allyuh Starlet men, save yuh money for yuh TD04 and emanage nah, yuh know yuh must have management to hit 200whp...this issa 20V ched

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Postby Hook » October 13th, 2009, 8:43 am

wait wait.....so I nuh welcome in dis ched nemor? I hadda call 2orc 1joy now?

waaaaaaaaaay....yuh does really know yuh padnuhz jed

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Postby AllTrac » October 13th, 2009, 9:45 am

"Emo turbo", known to spool up faster than a CT9

lmao :lol: :lol: well yes! :lol:

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Postby pablo_tt » October 13th, 2009, 1:01 pm

*bounces starter*

*casually drives off*

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Postby TRDcorolla » October 13th, 2009, 1:05 pm

cuz yuh lost the race and yuh didnt get monica

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Postby haydn28 » October 13th, 2009, 1:37 pm

all this dramas bout nawse ....

try 'forced induction' :idea:

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it worked out well for this fella :lol:

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Postby Advil » October 13th, 2009, 7:33 pm

A172 wrote:how would the stock ecu know when nitrous is being injected into the engine and how would it know when to pull back timing, and how much?



...it just knows...

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Postby Advil » October 13th, 2009, 8:15 pm

corollalover101 wrote:wooogad look me, pabloTT, advil and TRDCorolla :fadein: :fadein:

*disclaimer* advil won because he knew what AFR to run on his stock ecu :x


i beat u cuz u cyah drive manual, u have half a license

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Postby eliteauto » October 13th, 2009, 9:31 pm

rite rite, ah forget the "ah hear" license story, my bad :lol: :lol:

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Postby TRDcorolla » October 13th, 2009, 11:41 pm

corollalover101 you almost had Advil







*waits for it....waits for it*

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Postby Hook » October 13th, 2009, 11:42 pm

had him? he didn't even had his car!

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Postby eliteauto » October 13th, 2009, 11:53 pm

ask any racer...any real racer.....

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Postby Advil » October 14th, 2009, 12:07 am

morons

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Postby Zeriam » October 14th, 2009, 12:38 am

oh lord...

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Postby eliteauto » October 14th, 2009, 10:41 pm

The main differences between the ST and BT engines, for those who've contemplated the BT cams in the ST, please read the cam section it makes and interesting counter argument to what I've heard from guys who did the swap locally
http://s-86.com/s-20v-differences.html

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Postby dmitc » October 15th, 2009, 8:55 am

corollalover101, good stuff

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Postby Hook » October 15th, 2009, 10:02 am

hmmm....

Article wrote:
Compression Ratio:

The Silvertop has a static compression ratio of 10.5:1 compared to the 11:1 of the black. Both the combustion chamber volumes and the piston shapes cause the change in the compression, see under "Pistons & Gudgeon pins-" and "Head (combustion chamber)" for more information.

Head (combustion chambers):

The combustion chambers between the engines are quite different in terms of their squish area. While their valve size and position are identical the Silvertop features a chamber with a squish area in every gap between the valves. The blacktop on the other hand features all but the smallest flat section behind the exhaust ports. This led to a large difference between the combustion chamber volumes where the Silvertop is 35cc (reported by Arias) and the black at 37.8cc (measured by myself).

Pistons & Gudgeon pins:

Even though the Blacktop head features a more open combustion chamber (see "Head combustion- chambers") it still has a higher static compression ratio (see "compression ratio"), this is purely because of the piston design. The Silvertop piston features a very small dome with two deeply angled exhaust flycuts, two moderate inner flycuts and a moderate flat middle flycut for the middle intake valve. The Blacktop piston is very different, to accomodate for the larger chamber the dome is considerably higher with reduced flycuts. The exhaust flycuts are still present but more shallow and only the middle intake flycuts remains but even that is just a tiny flat circular dish machined out. A blacktop engine is an interference engine unlike all other A series engines. Although the pistons are initially interchangeable physically they aren't practically as a Silvertop with Blacktop pistons has a very high compression and quite low when the combination is reversed. Also of note is that the Silvertop piston is lighter at 308 grams without rings or a gudgeon pin installed compared to the 315.5g of the blacktop. The Blacktop does have a superior gudgeon pin design in that it has countersunk ends which give it a small 3g advantage bringing the weight difference slightly closer. The gudgeon pins them self are readily interchangeable.


word...

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Postby Anton » October 15th, 2009, 10:18 am

Soo ST pistons in BT = lower compression :arrow: safer for boost :?:

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