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trd.sports.m wrote:ok what would probably put and end to this is the realization that both the toyota men and the honda guys are both absolutely correct in this argument. the missing factor is the era of which you speak. the world belonged to toyota NA motors in the 1990's and it now belongs to honda point blank. there's no sense in arguing beyond that because there isn’t even any basis for an argument since toyota's NA platforms no longer even match honda's NA performance platforms. so please no more talk about the 2zz vs the k20 its a pointless argument that will only end up in the resultant fact that the k20 is the best 2 ltr 4cyl NA motor ever to hit production. so why compare it to a 1.8?
The reason why our awesome AE111 sports cars have a lower resale value than other similar platforms that are absolute crap is simply attributed to the fact that toyota motor corp has COMPLETELY lost any interest in continuing to be a leader in producing tuned production cars and they blatantly state this fact to anyone who dares to email them concerning the topic. What this obviously results in is a void in performance marketing and hype geared towards continued improvements in new successive models to existing sports cars that are already respected and loved by toyota fans and as long as that fire dies so does the value of the car.
The mitusubishi EVOIII is still a sought after car not because it is such an awesome vehicle but because you are still bombarded everyday by newer models that claim to be dominators in its class. therefore you would be willing to own an older model because it's a more economical way to be a part of what the EVO represents. If toyota had a 2008 model levin or trueno with a 2zzge engine or something of the sort that was well received by the general public the price of the AE111 would have had more respect. most ppl who see my car ask me WHAT IS THAT? if you didn’t know what a nissan skyline GTR was you probably would laugh your head off if someone offered you one for $300K this is exactly what current AE111 owners face when trying to sell their cars.
trdboy wrote:checked this car out testerday and lemme tell u it looks pretty but its an animal, it has the green top vvt-i engine and they claimed its a 2002 model and from the looks of it it could very well be with the new model lights and interior and newer engine they are calling 225k for it which i think is a great price considering the price of the Vspec r34 which is 375k, when asked why the skyline was selling so much more expensive the guy says he doesn't know cuz the is supra much faster and thats stock, compared to the mods of the skyline so ppl this is an excellent buy and i mean no disrespect to the nissan guys but i didnt
even notice the skyline there
NY4PD lets hear what mr2 u had and what do you mean by fully loaded( air condition? power steering? power door? wow sounds powerful!)
lets see some pics.
even those old dc2 type R going for 80k and over and i can tell u from experience the 20v can dust them away
Knight1 wrote:NY4PD lets hear what mr2 u had and what do you mean by fully loaded( air condition? power steering? power door? wow sounds powerful!)
lets see some pics.
^^Must be the new(er) MR-S / MR-2 he's referring to?even those old dc2 type R going for 80k and over and i can tell u from experience the 20v can dust them away
This I have gotta see. I'm neither a Toyota nor Honda guy...but I'd have been putting my bets on the DC2!!!!
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