600kms Fuel Mileage - NZE 121

[V2NR 3.0]

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[Jonathan]

in trinidad...i didnt see or hear bout a car that tops the NZE on gas mileage. not even the new corrola dem making that high i heard from an owner.

Actually, there are some that I know of... But they aren't Toyotas!

Toyota driver here..

[toyota2nr]

Just went to the mechanic for regular service. Would you believe the car had no oil. Apparently it had a small leak by the rocker cover gasket.

So I have been driving without oil and nothing was wrong with car.

WOW !!!

Who is your mechanic?

A guy by the name of Cyrus in Longdenville.

[V2NR 3.0]

^ Interesting

[toyota2nr]

I was in a driving seminar recently and the guy holding the seminar said that you should never let you tank run less than half.

Now if your second half of the tank finishes faster than the first half then you should get even more mileage if you fill up at half tank.

Can anyone confirm if this is true?

Yes. Thats why I fill up as soon as the level reaches half. I got 380 kms on the first half from the pic above.
I think the first half takes longer to finish than the second for a few reasons:

1: If you fill right up to the cap, you get about 1-1.5 L more gas (filler hose capacity)

2: When you fill the tank, the fuel level surpasses the float inside the tank. The amount of fuel consumed from real full to tank gauge full is not reflected on the gauge.

3: As the fuel level falls, there is more space for fuel vaporization in the tank. The lower the level falls, more fuel vaporizes and you end up with less liquid going to the engine.

4: The bottom half of the tank is physically smaller than the top half (i looked at my tank). Plus, there are grooves for the hangers, strength, etc to there is less volume capacity in the second half. The gauge measures level and not volume, so the bottom half has less volume in the same level span as the top.

Individually, these reasons make a small impact on the difference between gas mileage for the top and bottom halves of the gas tank, but all of them together (plus more that i cant think of right now) would make a big difference.

That's right. I used to get 565-600 km with the stock 14 in. wheels, spark plugs, air filter, etc. premium gas

Now i get around 500-550 km with 16 in. wheels. Premium or super gas gives about the same mileage.

Changing from 14s to 16s made the difference in fuel economy. 1.5 engine too

It makes a difference in the distance calculation for the tripmeter too, so you may actually be getting similar fuel mileage.

My 1.5 NZE going on 160,000 kms gives 400 - 500 kms (based on the tripmeter working with 205/50/17 wheels) for the tank with super unleaded. Stock except for K&N filter.

That's really good gas mileage. I didn't think about that with the trip meter and wheel size. I tried to keep the same rolling diameter but its not exactly the same as the original.
I thought bigger wheels n wider tires were heavier and had more rolling resistance. Will look into that.......... Thanks

Thanks great info here.

Two questions though. Someone told me the other day that you should never full the tank beyond the tank gauge full as this can add strain on the fuel pump. There must be space for the gas to expand. What's your take on this?

So if I full up when the tank reaches half shouldn't I bet getting more mileage?

[V2NR 3.0]

^ I think that somebody who told you about fulling the tank trying to sound important.

I fill up till i could see gas all the time in all my vehicls - even with Diesel to.

This is why the tanks are designed to allow pressure to escape

[Silvafoxx]

3zz-fe
Gas - Prem
610km 45.5L

[sitharcon]

GUYS, I HAVE A CRAZY QUESTION!!!!....I WAS WONDERING, HOW MUCH MORE KMS ARE YOU EXPECTED TO GET WHEN YOUR GAS LIGHT COMES ON???......DOES ANYONE KNOW THIS?????.........

[BrotherHood]

I would think it's different from car to car.

[acesinghit]

3zz-fe
Gas - Prem
610km 45.5L

if a 3zz could do that then a 1nz would pelt out ah 700kms easy

[toyota2nr]

GUYS, I HAVE A CRAZY QUESTION!!!!....I WAS WONDERING, HOW MUCH MORE KMS ARE YOU EXPECTED TO GET WHEN YOUR GAS LIGHT COMES ON???......DOES ANYONE KNOW THIS?????.........

Depends on how you drive. I drove from San Fernando to Chaguanas on gas light once so I think it's pretty average.

[karl]

$100 super - 500kms
nze121 - doing over 100,000kms, bought brand new,still stock, never use premium, never changed fuel filter.

you guys wasting serious money by using premium,the nze121 doesnt need it...read the manual.

super will give equivalent performance and economy for a lot less money.

[Nixin]

$100 super - 500kms
nze121 - doing over 100,000kms, bought brand new,still stock, never use premium, never changed fuel filter.

you guys wasting serious money by using premium,the nze121 doesnt need it...read the manual.

super will give equivalent performance and economy for a lot less money.

That's right i also get 500 km per $100 super and that is with ac on 100% of the time.

[trouble]

GUYS, I HAVE A CRAZY QUESTION!!!!....I WAS WONDERING, HOW MUCH MORE KMS ARE YOU EXPECTED TO GET WHEN YOUR GAS LIGHT COMES ON???......DOES ANYONE KNOW THIS?????.........

Depends on how you drive. I drove from San Fernando to Chaguanas on gas light once so I think it's pretty average.

A partner told me he made a Barrackpore to POS with his gas light on
I actually checked it when my light came on & filled my tank to approx. 40.74L & the manual states the tank capacity is 50L, so you have approx. 10L gas remaining when the light come on.

[Val]

177000kms later and still getting 550kms per tank.

[toyota2nr]

195,000 km and getting the same. I think it's also the driving conditions. If you don't have to deal with traffic I think you will get more.

[ramorr]

Only 600... I got 800 when the car was just serviced and this decreased to 640 when service was due. Rand a stock Altis 1.6. Premium gas with AC on all the time.

[Val]

I'm on 17s with 205/45 so I don know if that affects the mileage. It's dz101 too.

[joe_d_boss]

These figures are great. I used to get about 400 with my NZE121 and now 450-475 with my NZE141 on Super.

[timos976]

$100 super - 500kms
nze121 - doing over 100,000kms, bought brand new,still stock, never use premium, never changed fuel filter.

you guys wasting serious money by using premium,the nze121 doesnt need it...read the manual.

super will give equivalent performance and economy for a lot less money.

100/2.75 = 36 liters

500/36= 13.8 km per liter

[V2NR 3.0]

Guys, in depth research indicates that the NZE engines best perform on premium fuel. I know there is a vast cost difference between premium and super and many of us prefer to run super. I use premium in my NZE from a couple months aback and it is a noted improvement on all engine parameters. Still getting approximately 600kms and engine runs really good.

[V2NR 3.0]

Just completed another tank of gas - premium. These cars really have superb fuel economy almost better or equivalent to diesel consumption.

[Toyopet]

^ I've driven with the light on, but the needle never went below the last notch O_O .

I have an Altis at 114,xxxkm, totally stock engine. With the 14"s i got about 600kms when the light came on and took $120 to fill up (needle was between E and 1/4). With the 18"s and 215/40 tyres, I get about 500kms. If i drive excitedly then that's a totally different story, about 350km to a tank. It really makes a difference on the pocket on those 1500km weeks

[V2NR 3.0]

Couple more interesting facts:

1. If you drive under 80km with cold breeze you'd get around 675 to a tank of gas. I know, cause I did it.

2. When the gas light comes on - you can drive a distance of 60km before reaching a gas station. This is with cold breeze and driving 80km per hour.

The fuel economy on these cars are simply amazing and better than diesel economy and cheaper to maintain too.

I can just imagine the economy on the new 2014 yaris with that 1.3 engine

[Toyopet]

Just did 550km before I filled up. This is with the 18s on the altis, about 10 hrs traffic for the week and regular kick downs. Fill up cost $130

[DJ Q]

611KM / $111 Super
Mixture of A/c on & off

This car is the most amazing thing when it comes to fuel consumption
Or should I say lack thereof?

Gone are the days of switching off by the long traffic lights

[DJ Q]

$100 super - 500kms
nze121 - doing over 100,000kms, bought brand new,still stock, never use premium, never changed fuel filter.

you guys wasting serious money by using premium,the nze121 doesnt need it...read the manual.

super will give equivalent performance and economy for a lot less money.

100/2.75 = 36 liters

500/36= 13.8 km per liter

Did you know the NZE141 does this calculation for you on the dash?
On the left side with the clock, switch to AVG -- km/L and zero it off when you at the gas station
You can also zero off the average speed.

On my last fillup I averaged 16.1 km/L