1.6 roro NZE corolla fuel economy *HELP*

[DarkClouD]

so then what is the drive belt?

[nigel1977]

drive belt would turn over the alternator, compressor.
since it has a timing chain, i not sure if the water pump is off that or on the drive belt as well.

[karl]

yes the 3zz has power steering unlike the electric steering in the 1nz

the 3zz also has a timing chain like the 1nz

the 3zz has 1 belt (yes 1 belt) that passes over everything ! (power steering, alternator, a/c compressor..etc....long belt...prob cost plenty too...

[seanf3000]

AEM Cold Air Intake....
http://www.aempower.com/product_intake.asp?subCatID=1

AEM SRAM
http://www.aempower.com/product_intake.asp?subCatID=2

The website has its own HP gain claims......but when SSC tests kits IRL......the figures are rarely that impressive.

The K&N DRAM kit instruction manual does take into account the MAS and PWM vacuum switching valve. So u good to go.

At $800 i suppose thats the accessories belt.

[DarkClouD]

AEM Cold Air Intake....
http://www.aempower.com/product_intake.asp?subCatID=1

AEM SRAM
http://www.aempower.com/product_intake.asp?subCatID=2

The website has its own HP gain claims......but when SSC tests kits IRL......the figures are rarely that impressive.

The K&N DRAM kit instruction manual does take into account the MAS and PWM vacuum switching valve. So u good to go.

At $800 i suppose thats the accessories belt.

seanf3000 these intake kits should hook up easily and fit in our rollas here right? they are kind of expensive...hmm

[DarkClouD]

by the way you guys with the 1zz engine can you check your intake for me and please tell me how many sensors you see connected to the intake just before the filter box. I am seeing 2 in my car (3zz-fe engine). Please confirm. thanks..

[seanf3000]

Darkcloud...if you check out the install kit on this link for the zze122....you'll see its the same kinda setup for the usdm as is for our cars. My car does have the two sensors you have...the MAS and the vacuum switching valve. The K&N kit is made with both in mind.

But yeah.....its pricey!!!!

[bleedingfreak]

2 hp? YOu can get with oil
But remember if you freeing up the intake, free up the exhaust too eh!

That's the only way it makes sense.

[DarkClouD]

2 hp? YOu can get with oil
But remember if you freeing up the intake, free up the exhaust too eh!

That's the only way it makes sense.

Thats the plan....free up intake and exhaust...interesting to know how much HP increase there would be. I also wonder if theres any difference in terms of HP between the 1zz and 3zz...i highly doubt it.

[seanf3000]

^^ you mean diff in HP between the 1zz and 3zz or diff in HP gain between the 1zz and 3zz??


BTW seems i left out the link to the install instructions for the kit.

http://www.kandn.com/instructions/69-8751.pdf

The AEM site says about 6-7 hp gain at 6000rpm for the usdm zze130. But SSC ran an article testing intake systems and a AEM intake that was supposed to put 15hp into a integra end up dynoing 2hp more....

[DarkClouD]

^^ you mean diff in HP between the 1zz and 3zz or diff in HP gain between the 1zz and 3zz??


BTW seems i left out the link to the install instructions for the kit.

http://www.kandn.com/instructions/69-8751.pdf

The AEM site says about 6-7 hp gain at 6000rpm for the usdm zze130. But SSC ran an article testing intake systems and a AEM intake that was supposed to put 15hp into a integra end up dynoing 2hp more....

no i meant HP stock...both the 1zz and 3zz should be the same right

[seanf3000]

Nope......3zz is like 110-115hp but the hp/tq curve is diff from the 1nz since its based on the 1zz design. The 1nz is 110hp JDM and 108hp for UK market. The 1nz chain of engines is a newer design to the 1zz, 2zz, 3zz, 4zz. Which is why the 1nz corollas have electric steering instead of hydraulic pumps.

The Aug 2000 to Sept 2001 JDM corolla 1zz-fe is 136hp and 126tq. The early ecu and emission management systems made it a bit zippier than post 2001 engines. The mrs 1zz is 138hp and the celica 1zz is 140hp. This is due to intake and exhaust design changes from the zze/nze platforms. Plus they have a fatter tq band.

The post Sept 2001 zze is 132hp and 126tq. A bit of remapped ecu and intake and emission stuff end up with a lil less hp. The USDM 1zz is and continues to be 130hp 126tq.

[DarkClouD]

cool..now i'm trying to find the price of this k&n typhoon kit to buy online and I cant find it. However i saw on K&n's site that trinidad has a distributor called Quickbits in Arima. Tried calling them but only getting a message recording. Anyone knows about them?

[seanf3000]

Yeah....... quickbits can get it in for you...... You tried andy in valpark?? 662-1668

Usually.......... it about US$200

[DarkClouD]

Yeah....... quickbits can get it in for you...... You tried andy in valpark?? 662-1668

Usually.......... it about US$200

No but i would try him...i really dont want to spend this kind of money to find out it doesnt hook up. After reading the installation instructions it looks like it would work. Maybe the wise thing to do would be to dyno the car before i make the change to see if there is in fact an increase in performance...wayy i hadda wait to get paid to do this. if its US200 it would more than likely be 2000TT. Arghh..then i have to think about changing my exhaust....in your opinion do you think it makes sense to spend all this money on these cars?

[seanf3000]

Exactly th reason why i havent changed mine. I went down the same road. Thought about the AEM and K&N Typhoon kits. Then saw the prices i'll be paying to get them brought in. Then the really sad increases in power. The us guys change their intakes, but they all know it doesnt do much and they say they just end up doing it to compliment the exhaust or for the sound.

I stuck with the K&N intake and really.....i think you not too badly off just using that. Exhaust will do much more for you for much less money. The thing is (like most new cars) the intakes are more or less so well desinged...its hard to improve on them.

If i remember i think theres a free dyno coupon in the current issue of Zorce eh?? But do quote me...check Narends link. Get a base run dyno before u do anything....really!!

[DarkClouD]

so maybe its best if i saved this money and then in 2 years buy the zzt231 celica i have always wanted..lol...the only problem is that in 2 years that car may not be appealing anymore. if only i could have afforded it now.*sigh* oh well.

[seanf3000]

^^well bro...i know how it is yes.

Perhaps......methinks......i may reward myself with the Z aerotourer in 2007.

[DarkClouD]

^^well bro...i know how it is yes.

Perhaps......methinks......i may reward myself with the Z aerotourer in 2007.

this is the runX right with the 2zz-ge engine? 190HP...the same as the zzt231 celica..*sigh*

btw thats a nice ride as well and probably much easier to insure than a celica.

[seanf3000]

Oh no....it the Fielder Z-Aerotourer i'm talking about.....but same reason....much easier to insure.

[bleedingfreak]

"The aluminum block is hefty and casted really clean. It will allow the engine to produce massive horsepower over stock. Dimensionally they are bigger than the 4AGE, the engine family it is superceding. Block strengthening is possible, by pinning the cylinders to stabilize the bores. The crank is a lightweight design and so are the rods. The crank and rods are casted really well, stress-relief and shot-peen- will produce parts that look forged."

http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20Information/2ZZ-GE_tech_notes.htm

Thought you guys might like that quote...

[seanf3000]

Browse that link since bout 2-3yrs ago.

[bleedingfreak]

Yeah I know it old!

But say what...

[Corollaman]

So hear nah, what about the original question??

Have the poor mileage problems been resolved????

[DarkClouD]

So hear nah, what about the original question??

Have the poor mileage problems been resolved????

true....sentraman since you did that tune up did you get any improvement in your gas mileage...it seems to me that the 1.6 RORO's are a little more greedy on the gas compared to the 1.5. I get roughly 410km to $100 premium

[seanf3000]

I wouldn't doubt that the 1nz is more efficient than the 3zz and 1zz...... They such different engine lines.

[nigel1977]

So hear nah, what about the original question??

Have the poor mileage problems been resolved????

true....sentraman since you did that tune up did you get any improvement in your gas mileage...it seems to me that the 1.6 RORO's are a little more greedy on the gas compared to the 1.5. I get roughly 410km to $100 premium

thats a bit better that what i get.

[sentraman]

well the problem aint solve yet Still drinking gas like a V8

[bleedingfreak]

^^ I dunno if I ask this already, but where do you fill up?

[nigel1977]

^^ just to add to where youre going... i also tried different stations, point fortin, gonzales, oropuche, bout 3 in san do, and yes there is a small difference, but i never any big numbers like those 1nz guys or even sean's 1zz.
i feel us 3zz are doomed with poor mileage.