4 age or 4 efte

[marka]

what rubbish ah reading here, the only way a 4age any model will beat a 4efte is on paper.
I run a 4efte and have never come across any any car with a 4age that I had to see his tail pipe.
The 4efte is the little engine that could. as for sir's with their B16a LOL

[marka]

what rubbish ah reading here, the only way a 4age any model will beat a 4efte is on paper.
I run a 4efte and have never come across any any car with a 4age that I had to see his tail pipe.
The 4efte is the little engine that could. as for sir's with their B16a LOL

[Terran]

I will gladly bring my stock 20V and dance in circles around your stock 4EFTE.

You in for a rude awakening.

[marka]

I will gladly bring my stock 20V and dance in circles around your stock 4EFTE.

You in for a rude awakening.

Excuse me fella anytime you ready, just let me know when and where.....and bring witnesses so you eh go say ah lie.

[Terran]

Bring grave diggers with you when you coming. You going to need help digging your own grave. The car going down with you too.

[shinakuma]

Marka it doesnt make sense fighting dat kinda talk wit dem 20v jokers non ah dem go show up anywhere 2 battle d 4efte dem only have mouth.

[marka]

I hear that...... Terren I live in the east and work in town if you from north any way it doh matter my # is 746 9587 call meh when ever you have time and pick ah strip, street, lane or back road. I really doh like typing so leh we stop all dis chattin and settle it call meh if you serious ......BRING IT

[Terran]

Marka it doesnt make sense fighting dat kinda talk wit dem 20v jokers non ah dem go show up anywhere 2 battle d 4efte dem only have mouth.

Yes, call me a joker. I not about to promote call-outs when there is no where to do what we want to do legally.

I could just stand by my arguments because of what I have tested and proven - not once, but twice - different 4EFTEs.

I guess you have your reasons to say the same. Maybe one day we'll find out what makes our particular motors so different.

In the meantime, you all should just shut up and have some respect for the 20V. It's your big brother.

[marka]

like shinakuma said ......well....... the 20v is the big brother but respect is something that you earn and not just given to you because you said so ....
you called truce so truce but if ever them extra valves on the 20 sending too much gas fumes to the brain well... truce right truce

[shinakuma]

Look how quick Terran back down Marka jus like i know he would. I not fightin u down terran u have a toyota and dat iz my brand but u should refrain from makin statements dat u dont plan on backin up. One organized race on an empty road is not so bad once d only people at risk is d 2 drivers.

[Terran]

Come nah man... so we cyar poke a lil fun at each other now?

[shinakuma]

U could have fun but be warned dat some men take challenges seriously especially when there engine is being criticized. Save d trashin 4 d real enemy of d 20v the b16a, 1.6 mivec and sr20de.

[Terran]

Breds, me ent trashing de 4EFTE, and I never would. Like I said, I just poking some fun.

And B16As, and SR20DEs have been handled already. I done know de 20V is not to fool around de MIVEC.

[33 hertz]

Ok so anyone knows was the going price of a 4efte we talking engine, gearbox, harness, ecu, mounts and axels?

[Zeriam]

no mounts or axels last time i check was about 4500-5000 in south

[33 hertz]

Thanks man still looking around for the 4e but i ketchin my rass to find a good one. Bess i just go for a ST!

[eliteauto]

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Ok so anyone knows was the going price of a 4efte we talking engine, gearbox, harness, ecu, mounts and axels?

between 5 to 7 k in the bamboo really can remember the name but it the street opposite ROC, first place on your left.

[33 hertz]

Thanks, going to check them out tomm

[33 hertz]

So far everything on hold cuz i not finding any 4efte's. But i did locate a blacktop complete for $7000 so if i dont find the 4efte by the end of next week then its 20v FTW!

[33 hertz]

So been researching lots and here is what i came up with.

The 4age blacktop will put out about 120-125 whp stock
With CAI, 2.5" exhaust,255lph fuel pump,SAFC, plugs and some tuning should put out about 135-140whp. Avg cost $3500.00 Which should put me into a 15 sec run considering the weight of my car.
Total cost $10500.00

The 4efte however will put out about 100whp stock
With Bigger injectors, FMIC, SAFC, Boost controller, BOV, 255LPH fuel pump, 2.5" exhaust, stock turbo and tuning on regular 95 octane gas. Avg cost $5000.00 should put out about 150-155 whp with moderate tuning for everyday use and about 170 whp with c16 and radical tuning High 14sec 1/4 mile
Total cost $11000.00

So the decision is pretty hard cuz most places just offering just a start up warranty on the fte as its turbo but i getting 1 month on the blacktop. Then i have to consider the cost of maintainence as turbo engines should cost a little more but blacktop parts are pretty scarce.

Giving the 4efte hunt one more try and if not well then i will have to prove to those honda guys what the 20v can do
What u guys think?

[katastrophic]

what car u putting de engine in?

[Sinister_Audio]

Giving the 4efte hunt one more try and if not well then i will have to prove to those honda guys what the 20v can do
What u guys think?

ok well i didnt read the last 8 pages of this thread but from what ive read so far,
did you consider the gas comsumption in the boosted 1.3 in comparison to the 1.6 na??

or did you also consider the maintainence of the 4e?

what about your competition of the NA bracket?
also what about the future sight of modifications?
how far can a 20v go? in comparison to the 4e?
also the life of the both engines?

[33 hertz]

did you consider the gas comsumption in the boosted 1.3 in comparison to the 1.6 na??

they should be around the same AFAIK

maintainence of the 4e?

Should be a bit higher as its turbo

The blacktop is a newer engine so should last a bit longer, plus its N/A so the risk of too leaning out is smaller. The blacktop can go VERY far if its turbo charged but it is very costly. I plan on running in the 15 sec bracket so future mods wont be much more than what i listed.

what car u putting de engine in?

Ae 80 corolla

[katastrophic]

if i wanna put either engine in a swift, which engine allyuh think is de best bet (yes i have plans of modifying) it will also be a daily driver

[33 hertz]

The 4efte might be your best bet, its smaller than the 4age so there wont be as much modifying as well as its lighter than the 4age. The swift and starlet are similar in size so the 4efte should perform pretty well in that platform

[katastrophic]

allyuh kno any good mechanic up north who could do a 4efte in a swift conversion?

[katastrophic]

allyuh kno any good mechanic up north who could do a 4efte in a swift conversion?

[eliteauto]

33 hertz, check your pm

[Terran]

allyuh kno any good mechanic up north who could do a 4efte in a swift conversion?

PM me. My mechanic is my hero. He knows Toyotas better than most. A conversion like that should be a piece of cake (to him).