The comprehensive 4age thread

[A172]

throw some kernels in de exhaust

[psycostud666]

So I guess the pop is very wasteful on fuel. I figured that saving fuel works best with moderate driving. But I just love the pop,

[haydn28]

excess gas igniting in a hot exhaust ..its the same principle as bussing bamboo

[Hook]

Like I said earlier, the engines naturally run a tad rich anyway so you'll still get the pop, especially when you rev high on low octane swill like Super, since at the first sign of knock the ECU throw fuel at it.

You're gonna get around 300-350km to a full tank in an AE10* either way (~20km-30km less with buttocks driving...~20km more if you shift low and grannytize it), so (also, like I said before) trying to squeeze more out of it is kinda pointless...it's not an econobox engine. Just have fun with it meng.

[haydn28]

Like I said earlier, the engines naturally run a tad rich anyway so you'll still get the pop, especially when you rev high on low octane swill like Super, since at the first sign of knock the ECU throw fuel at it.

You're gonna get around 300-350km to a full tank in an AE10* either way (~20km-30km less with buttocks driving...~20km more if you shift low and grannytize it), so (also, like I said before) trying to squeeze more out of it is kinda pointless...it's not an econobox engine. Just have fun with it meng.

wow those engines drink dude

i get 300km on 1/2 tank super , shifting at 3000 rpm .. 4e and 5e
E must be tuned leaner

[josh.dookie]

The yellow AE80 is Fiaz from Scar Concepts car, it works well, levins poppin is normel behaviour man, I remember using the NOS fuel treatment in the levin, went from yellow flame to blue flames, lol @ u wanting the "blue pop"... So daz how u get the blue pop..!
The pop is also easily attained by manual 20v vehicles (from my experience) that are free flowed or those that have removed there converters and using super..
Lol at all this discussion of the pop which is jus excess fuel being pelt out the exhaust an combusting...
Gotta love those 4e's, 300km on half tank, daz EPIC dread...!

[Hook]

Yeah they do drink, but I think it's a displacement thing coupled with the whole knock issue.
It's a fun little engine to have if you don't wanna do boost, but I guess the fueling is just something you learn to live with.

[haydn28]

question 4 d 4age guys :

u all ever interfere with cam phasing to make power?

cause i changed the cam phasing on my padna ga15 and we wet up 2 20v AE on the high way recently

the men ask us if it was ah sr

[Hook]

Well there's the VVT in our case which opens the 5th valve and already introduces a bit of cam overlap, but there's not much room for adjustment and most times, guys aren't willing to dig up too much...including myself...I'm not really interested in it anyway, so I didn't put any thought into it.

Dunno if the Scar Concepts guys are experimenting with it, so some input from them would be cool...maybe even some dyno runs would to gauge the power increase too.

[josh.dookie]

Yeah from what I've heard as well there isn't much room for adjusting, (e-tuning an hearsay btw).. I duuno if any 20v guys try it, but it's an idea..!

[haydn28]

come on guys , that here say thing not gonna work

some one buy or make a set of cam gears and try a ting nah
im very interested to see some results



the ga15 had very impressive top end , it was leaving the 2 20v by a good 8-10 lengths on top ...surly it could have not done that with out digging up in it

[josh.dookie]

^^^ A GA15, lawd

[haydn28]

^^thas exactly wat the 20v men say

[Hook]

Where can u suggest someone make these cam gears tho?

I'm gonna be replacing valve seals soon so I don't mind taking a lil dig up while it's down...I mean, it's a non-inteference head, right...might have to make a dyno run before to get a baseline tho...we'll see what May brings w.r.t. time...'til then I guess I could get working on the cam gears

[josh.dookie]

yeah I can imagine hayden lol, toda cams would be the real way to go wit the 20v eh, but u gotta have deep pockets to frigg up wit this lamo engine..
It wud be for sheer love of NA power alone I guess, for men to invest in a 20valve..

[josh.dookie]

Where can u suggest someone make these cam gears tho?

x2, I up for a rebuild soon as well..!

[haydn28]

mic can do it, on my side a guy name prakash did one for me , will get his # and post it up

[josh.dookie]

noice... daz we talkin bout, loving this idea hayden, maybe we cud keep up with the ga15 after

[haydn28]

mine looked like bajan chamelion one

[Hook]

oh okie...so that's a modified cam? not a completely rebuilt one?...looks clean

Would prefer I send one to mod so there's no downtime nuh
WTB: 20V exhaust cam gear

[josh.dookie]

will try it while my engine is being redone.. yup it looks like it jus cam of d assembly line!!

[psycostud666]

haydn28, Dude, how d hell do i put up pics on a message here?

[A172]

go to tinypic.com

upload image there

copy and paste the last link there and put it in the tags here and post it in your message

[psycostud666]

A172, Thanks

[Zeriam]

Hook,toda cam gears are 360US and it disables the vvt

[Hook]

Hook,toda cam gears are 360US and it disables the vvt

Not interested.

WTB: 20V exhaust cam gear

[pablo_tt]

Can I use the starter off another toyota engine (eg 5afe etc) and use it on the 4AGE 20v ST engine?

[clone101]

YES

[pablo_tt]

ok, thank you

[eliteauto]

must be of the same transmission i.e. auto for auto