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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby sMASH » May 10th, 2021, 4:51 pm

Efficiency changes when u change the loading, so affects power draw/output/heat ratios.

The theory is double and half and what not.
But watching big d wiz multiple tests, the real world performance is dependent on individual amp design.

And watching barevids explain amps, u see how the components done behave linearly.

So, u would expect better efficiency with a certain impedence, , but get worse, and vice versa.

Plenty is also back emf from the subs too. At certain frequencies.

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby Rovin » May 10th, 2021, 4:53 pm

well said

i had similar thoughts but i was feeling lazy to type all that ....

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby Rovin » May 16th, 2021, 2:03 pm

so whats d latest on d build shakes ?

project done build long time & u foolin we with gradual pic releases or installer lock off cause of covid ....

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 18th, 2021, 11:36 am

build is like 90% completed. What killing me now, is taking a chance during the SOE to go an tune.

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby Brian Steele » June 11th, 2021, 12:11 am

From the Orion HCCA manual... "Please Note: Due to the extremely long excursion and high temperature possibilities of this woofer, it is recommended that when the woofer is installed it be positioned so that the cone either faces upward or downward only."

Jus sayin; :-)

Looks like that build is going to make some beastly bass....

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 12th, 2021, 9:04 am

Brian Steele wrote:From the Orion HCCA manual... "Please Note: Due to the extremely long excursion and high temperature possibilities of this woofer, it is recommended that when the woofer is installed it be positioned so that the cone either faces upward or downward only."

Jus sayin; :-)

Looks like that build is going to make some beastly bass....


Hoping so...just waiting for soe to finish to fo tune up

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 12th, 2021, 6:25 pm

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby Firewall » June 12th, 2021, 7:31 pm

Woooooot Wooooot!!!!!
That looks awesome!!!!

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby blacks » June 15th, 2021, 5:08 pm

Nice build would love to hear it in person

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby kavaninho » June 15th, 2021, 5:17 pm

yessssssss, that is bassline! :drinking: :drinking: :drinking: :drinking: :drinking:

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby X_Factor » June 28th, 2021, 1:41 pm

nice, how the voltage holding ?

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby Rovin » June 28th, 2021, 6:33 pm

my shiddy desktop speakers cant play bass but from what i can hear from it : mids\highs sounding clear & balanced ...

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 28th, 2021, 7:09 pm

Rovin wrote:my shiddy desktop speakers cant play bass but from what i can hear from it : mids\highs sounding clear & balanced ...


Didnt go to test bassline...we took a chance with the mids but some minor touching up to do now. Time align and then test bass to see what missing.
X_Factor wrote:nice, how the voltage holding ?


As we only tested midrange, voltage kept at 14.2-14.4.....about 2 hours jamming

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 29th, 2021, 7:52 am

Rovin wrote:my shiddy desktop speakers cant play bass but from what i can hear from it : mids\highs sounding clear & balanced ...


Use your phone and listen

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 6th, 2021, 3:37 pm

My padna post that^...I not even on the book of faces...facepalm

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 17th, 2021, 5:24 pm

It done
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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby Rovin » August 17th, 2021, 6:32 pm

nice man but how u go do we dat with 1 single pic ...

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby david12 » August 17th, 2021, 7:57 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:It done
saw the pic on Instagram earlier I knew it was your build. looking forward to seeing some vids.

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 17th, 2021, 8:08 pm

david12 wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:It done
saw the pic on Instagram earlier I knew it was your build. looking forward to seeing some vids.


It on instagram :| ??? I not even on insta,fb etc
Rovin wrote:nice man but how u go do we dat with 1 single pic ...


Want to post vids and more pics after we go tuning this wknd(weather permitting)

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby david12 » August 18th, 2021, 6:52 am

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1490702 ... &ref=share

the people on Facebook were mindblown
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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 25th, 2021, 7:43 am

Day1: tuning....blasted rain....tuner is ah BOSS....so we still made it happen

For those interested, tuner is randy aka bassgod aka chunky...was one of Rent A Amp's main sound engineer.
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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby Rovin » August 25th, 2021, 11:45 am

i dont know d person though i have seen ppl on fb mention his name


just asking to know how they do tuning for these kinds of systems : run pink noise, use a rta mic\rta software then adjust crossover points, eqs, levels accordingly ? ...

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby kavaninho » August 25th, 2021, 12:08 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Day1: tuning....blasted rain....tuner is ah BOSS....so we still made it happen

For those interested, tuner is randy aka bassgod aka chunky...was one of Rent A Amp's main sound engineer.



Is that the RTA mic laying on the ground taking the measurement?

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 25th, 2021, 2:57 pm

Rovin wrote:i dont know d person though i have seen ppl on fb mention his name


just asking to know how they do tuning for these kinds of systems : run pink noise, use a rta mic\rta software then adjust crossover points, eqs, levels accordingly ? ...


Correct is right. The driverack was programmed before we went out into the open to make final adjustments. This took some time as we did not want to chance the weather. Took at least another 45 mins out in the open to get it going (pink noise, time delays etc)
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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Day1: tuning....blasted rain....tuner is ah BOSS....so we still made it happen

For those interested, tuner is randy aka bassgod aka chunky...was one of Rent A Amp's main sound engineer.



Is that the RTA mic laying on the ground taking the measurement?


Yes it is.

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby kavaninho » August 25th, 2021, 3:43 pm

^ That is not ideal at all.

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 25th, 2021, 4:59 pm

kavaninho wrote:^ That is not ideal at all.


Nope its not...when we went out in the open, the correct thing was done

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby Brian Steele » August 25th, 2021, 8:56 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
kavaninho wrote:^ That is not ideal at all.


Nope its not...when we went out in the open, the correct thing was done


Actually, if you were doing what's called a "ground plane" measurement, it can be quite accurate.

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Re: E25: 6 15S build

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 26th, 2021, 12:16 pm

Brian Steele wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
kavaninho wrote:^ That is not ideal at all.


Nope its not...when we went out in the open, the correct thing was done


Actually, if you were doing what's called a "ground plane" measurement, it can be quite accurate.


Tbh, I didnt really ask much questions as I have a lot of faith in the tuner. Once it was pleasing to my ear in the end...it was all good!

I was made aware of the pink noise aspect, time alignment etc when we were out in the open.

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