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SR wrote:1st of all will your warranty be void by toyota if you add a sound system.
Brian Steele wrote:The difference between 500W to the subs and 1100W to the sub is about 3.4 dB. That's not going to be all that noticeable IRL.
FWIW, I've got an Alpine PDX M12 and a PDX F6 installed for a grand total of 1.8kW RMS and my Hyundai Tucson is still running its stock alternator, and this is an install that was done several years ago. Unless you're deaf, you're not going to be running the system at its peak power output. Your car is likely capable of doing over 100MPH, but I'll bet you won't be driving all the time at that speed either . Having said that, I will say though that I'm running 2 12s sealed, not 1 10 vented, so the power I need to reach a particular SPL level would be a lot less than the build that you're considering. My system basically idles for most of its use.
I wouldn't base my design around a 1 ohm load for the bass unless I was a bass-head, and if I was a bass-head, I won't be settling for one 10, LOL. Consider a design around a 2 ohm or 4 ohm load instead.
Honestly, if I had to choose between your two options above, I'd first listen to how those Focal components sound compared to the Alpines - because those are going to account for ~80% of the music spectrum - and base my decision on that.
nervewrecker wrote:Story does change with reps..
Heard warranty void if deck changed already.
Hifonics nowhere in alpine league.
Go for a smaller alpine 5 channel.
nervewrecker wrote:Careful when you go back you hear warranty void. Wont hurt to ask another rep.
Current draw to 1200 watts varies from amp to amp. Just letting you know up front.
A_Samai wrote:What I really looking for though is an installer for my system. Hoping to give me a cost of installing the system with ported fiberglass enclosure. 3 toyota agents each gave me the same number for their supplier, Safe and Sound Solutions. But the man dont answer he phone
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kavaninho wrote:I more leaning toward your last resort system as the more viable option for a space saving install. That alpine sub can get pretty loud in a sealed enclosure far less for ported. That alpine V9 is one of my favorite aswell.
A_Samai wrote:kavaninho wrote:The sd-3 12 has a mounting depth of only 5 inches and there are no vents to the back of the woofer meaning it was tested with the magnet against the back wall in a 0.5 cubic feet sealed enclosure.
Brian Steele wrote:A_Samai wrote:kavaninho wrote:The sd-3 12 has a mounting depth of only 5 inches and there are no vents to the back of the woofer meaning it was tested with the magnet against the back wall in a 0.5 cubic feet sealed enclosure.
Hmm.. The SD3 10" and 12" drivers have a rated Xmax of 14.5mm. The Type-R drivers (10" and 12") have a rated Xmax of 21mm. On paper the Type-Rs will provide superior output (more bass and less distortion). However, at only 1kW RMS into a 12" driver presenting a 2 ohm load in a 0.5 cu.ft. box, I doubt that the resulting excursion requirements would be as high as 14mm, much less 21mm. The Alpines do offer the advantage though that you can use them in a larger sealed box, which will provide more low frequency output and require less power to do so.
Brian Steele wrote:A_Samai wrote:kavaninho wrote:The sd-3 12 has a mounting depth of only 5 inches and there are no vents to the back of the woofer meaning it was tested with the magnet against the back wall in a 0.5 cubic feet sealed enclosure.
Hmm.. The SD3 10" and 12" drivers have a rated Xmax of 14.5mm. The Type-R drivers (10" and 12") have a rated Xmax of 21mm. On paper the Type-Rs will provide superior output (more bass and less distortion). However, at only 1kW RMS into a 12" driver presenting a 2 ohm load in a 0.5 cu.ft. box, I doubt that the resulting excursion requirements would be as high as 14mm, much less 21mm. The Alpines do offer the advantage though that you can use them in a larger sealed box, which will provide more low frequency output and require less power to do so.
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