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Postby ryce boyz » December 7th, 2004, 5:36 pm

I have an 800w rms car amp and its not in my car right now so I was wondering if there is any device that I can use so that I can use the amp in my home, the amp runs on 14.4 volts.

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Postby rioclaro » December 7th, 2004, 6:07 pm

http://www.brilliant-electronics.com/po ... ps26kx.htm
see if any electronics store eg gopauls..etc have this or a brand thats comparable

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Postby assassin » December 7th, 2004, 6:12 pm

a 25A ps will not be adequate to run an 800w rms amp george

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Postby rioclaro » December 7th, 2004, 6:15 pm

actually it would but if you u are hesitant http://www.brilliant-electronics.com/po ... ps52kx.htm

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Postby assassin » December 7th, 2004, 6:47 pm

that would be a bit better clyde

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Postby ryce boyz » December 8th, 2004, 5:15 pm

What about a battery charger , I have a battery charger that uses 110 current (house current) to charge car batteries.Would that work?

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Postby assassin » December 8th, 2004, 6:57 pm

i don't think so
does it trickle charge?

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Postby nigel1977 » December 8th, 2004, 11:02 pm

a 80% efficient 800wrms amp would need at least 80a.
at full load, a battery charger's blocking diodes would heat up and you'd have bar b q silica.
again, youre saying 800wrms.
you can use a battery charger, however, to charge a sufficiently large battery to power the amp, after use. NOT during use. After use.

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Postby rioclaro » December 9th, 2004, 1:54 pm

ryce boyz wrote:What about a battery charger , I have a battery charger that uses 110 current (house current) to charge car batteries.Would that work?


nope...
hope you dont hook up a lead acid battery in youre home cause these batteries produce hydrogen gas as they warm up. This can KILL YOU.

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a 50 amps ps will be fine only if you amp is 800w peak and not 800w rms why read this
to calculate power, it’s the voltage multiplied by the Current. So 12 volts multiplied by 50 = 600 watts. This is more then enough for your 800 watt amp. Now you’re thinking how the hell does he get 600 watts as more then enough for a 800 watt amp? Easy a 800 watt amp isn’t a true 800 watts.The 800 watts it it’s a peak power rating, to get the true RMS “root-mean-square” value its approximately half that value. which in youre case will be about 400~500watts.. :wink:

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Postby ryce boyz » December 9th, 2004, 6:57 pm

Ok so I guess that the only option is to get the power supply

How much you think would be the price of the power supply?

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Postby rioclaro » December 9th, 2004, 7:11 pm

look at the 1st reply to youre post

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Postby ryce boyz » December 10th, 2004, 6:17 pm

Ok cool, but I have one other question

The amp I have is a Coustic 800w rms monoblock but it have two sets of speaker terminals and manual said that the extra set is so that the amp could run two speakers and the total speaker load should be 2,4 or 8 ohms.So my question is can this amp run two dual 4 subs?

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Postby rioclaro » December 10th, 2004, 6:37 pm

if it said so yes or just wire both dual 4 ohms sub to one channel but the amp has to be 1 ohm stable

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Postby nigel1977 » December 10th, 2004, 7:26 pm

2 dual 4 ohm subs when wired in series then parallel will yield a 4 ohm impedance.
this should be easy loading for any monoblock.
the second pair of terminals is provided so that you wont have to force 2 sets of wires into one pair of terminals.
please note that these two sets of outputs are usually internally wired in parallel. so if you wire each sub's coils in series, that will give 8 ohms. wire each "8 ohm" load to each of the amps terminals. the amp will "see" a 4 ohm load. no problems

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Postby rioclaro » December 10th, 2004, 8:18 pm

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Postby ryce boyz » December 12th, 2004, 2:24 pm

So to wire the subs coils in series I have to put the two positives and two negatives of the first sub to the first set of amp terminals.

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Postby nigel1977 » December 12th, 2004, 10:18 pm

the above diagram is a bit misleading, as it does not refer to a monoblock with dual output connections.

if you look at option2, you'd see that the positive of one coil is connected to the amp's positive. the negative of that same coil is connected to the positive of the subs other coil. the remaining negative goes back to the amp. well thats what series connectionis all about. so essentially, with your dual outputs, you can connect one sub to each connection pair. of course, when you series the subs coil, the 2 dual 4 ohm coils will yield a 8 ohm. so you'd be connection an 8ohm load to each "output" so to speak. as mentioned before, the outputs are internally paralled, so, the amp sees, eventually, a 4 ohm load.
that amplifier is NOT 1 ohm stable, so DO NOT try option 1. :roll:

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Postby ryce boyz » December 13th, 2004, 9:46 pm

So I have to use option 2, ok guys much thanks.

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Postby nigel1977 » December 13th, 2004, 10:06 pm

this should help you better

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Postby ryce boyz » January 6th, 2005, 6:21 pm

In the diagram above when the two subs are connected to the amp the amp will run at 4 ohm , is there any way to make the amp run at 2 ohm?

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Postby nigel1977 » January 6th, 2005, 7:58 pm

accumatch. or a second pair of dvc.

actually this pic has an error. the final impedance of each sub is 8 ohm... the pic has 4 ohm. my bad. cut and paste nah.

so what you said was right. the amp will run at 4 ohm. if you want the amp to run lower. add another pair of subs.
or an accumatch.

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Postby ryce boyz » January 7th, 2005, 4:59 pm

What is an accumatch?

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Postby nigel1977 » January 7th, 2005, 5:28 pm


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Postby ryce boyz » January 7th, 2005, 5:35 pm

Where can I get one to buy and how much for one so?

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Postby nigel1977 » January 7th, 2005, 10:18 pm

me eh no na

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