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Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl ?

Postby Smartphone Accessories » February 12th, 2013, 12:32 pm

The 2JZGTE has been around for about 2 decades now and still is widely used engine. Do you believe it is the best 6 cylinder engine ever built? or do you think Nissan R35 VR38DETT is going to take over?

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby moti » February 12th, 2013, 1:11 pm

can't compare the 2jz with the R35 engine.
it's two totally different platforms with different techs etc.

2jz has been tried and tested and can still improve, the VR38 still has a long way to go with mods etc.

so my take if you insist on comparing the two; it's too early to tell with the VR38.
but the 2jz will always be the best in line 6 engine i know.

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Smartphone Accessories » February 12th, 2013, 2:03 pm

moti wrote:can't compare the 2jz with the R35 engine.
it's two totally different platforms with different techs etc.

2jz has been tried and tested and can still improve, the VR38 still has a long way to go with mods etc.

so my take if you insist on comparing the two; it's too early to tell with the VR38.
but the 2jz will always be the best in line 6 engine i know.
But Moti, barring the obvious in terms of platform...the VR38 has been around for at least the last 4-5yrs and with numerous 1000hp R35 cars running around I think lots of people have had plenty of time to have an opinion on the capability and reliability of the VR38. Besides, the fact that the 2JZ is tried and tested do you see the VR38 as the successor to the 2J in the 6cylinder class?

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Dragsta » February 12th, 2013, 3:09 pm

The closest comparison to the 2JZ is the RB26DETT imo... the 2JZ being a 3.0L and the RB26 a 2.6L still gives the 2JZ a hell of a run... but 2JZ has a better reputation of Stronger and Reliable...

the VR38 is a Beast and is more comparable and stands up very well with the Ferrari, Lambo, Mustang, Corvette, Porche, BMW, Mercedes, even the Lexus LFA and many other high class V type sports cars

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Ted_v2 » February 12th, 2013, 4:21 pm

IMO toyota makes one of the best engines worldwide.

the 2jz is a really nice engine and handles modding very well in terms of bigger turbos and such on a stock engine, there's also a ton of aftermarket support for them so that's also a plus
would easily prefer one of these vs a rb26

i never heard about much modding taking place on the Nissan R35 VR38DETT, maybe pair of upgraded turbos but thats it

give it a couple years for the prices on the engine to drop and thats when the main population will be using them

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Dragsta » February 12th, 2013, 6:48 pm

3.2L RB engine

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby turbosingh » February 12th, 2013, 6:59 pm

sound boy 64 wrote:IMO toyota makes one of the best engines worldwide.

the 2jz is a really nice engine and handles modding very well in terms of bigger turbos and such on a stock engine, there's also a ton of aftermarket support for them so that's also a plus
would easily prefer one of these vs a rb26

i never heard about much modding taking place on the Nissan R35 VR38DETT, maybe pair of upgraded turbos but thats it

give it a couple years for the prices on the engine to drop and thats when the main population will be using them



Lol soundboy I think u should do some research on the vr38 godzilla motorsports is doin with a billet block an let me know.

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby moti » February 12th, 2013, 8:38 pm

Smartphone Accessories wrote:
moti wrote:can't compare the 2jz with the R35 engine.
it's two totally different platforms with different techs etc.

2jz has been tried and tested and can still improve, the VR38 still has a long way to go with mods etc.

so my take if you insist on comparing the two; it's too early to tell with the VR38.
but the 2jz will always be the best in line 6 engine i know.
But Moti, barring the obvious in terms of platform...the VR38 has been around for at least the last 4-5yrs and with numerous 1000hp R35 cars running around I think lots of people have had plenty of time to have an opinion on the capability and reliability of the VR38. Besides, the fact that the 2JZ is tried and tested do you see the VR38 as the successor to the 2J in the 6cylinder class?


of course the VR38 will be the successor as there is room to make shitloads of power with the 3.8, let alone if they increase cc to say 4.0.

only thing is will it be a bamboo favorite like the JZ as time progresses seeing that it's so far only available in the R35 and some jukes

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby trinibuggy » February 12th, 2013, 10:00 pm

Ford's turbocharged 4.0l inline 6 can also be a contender.

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Rory Phoulorie » February 12th, 2013, 10:48 pm

Greatest 6 cylinder engine?

Honda's RA168E 1.5L turbocharged V6 engine.

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby TeamH2O » February 13th, 2013, 12:26 am

I think if they made a specially designed block for a 2jz making it 3.8L in displacement, then it would be something to talk about and compare. But i fine comparing a 3.0 old technology engine to a new technology designed 3.8 engine, is not really fair comparing. Whoever wants to argue that point, thats them. Im just saying.

Look, a 2jz stroked to only 3.2L doing 2041HP

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Sinister_Audio » February 13th, 2013, 7:17 am

Smartphone Accessories wrote:The 2JZGTE has been around for about 2 decades now and still is widely used engine. Do you believe it is the best 6 cylinder engine ever built? or do you think Nissan R35 VR38DETT is going to take over?



good question....

still don't know why people are restricted to '3rd world mentality' but anyway....
the VR38's platform has a wider range of competition than the 2JZ....

all the posts in this thread were related to 'drag racing'
yes gas mospo is @ 6.26
but the 2jz has been around for decades and has gone through EXTENSIVE R&D.... the VR38 STARTED with INTENSIVE R&D and will only get better, who knows, gas only touched 6.26 last year.... maybe in the future the VR may touch easy low 6s also....

but what about drifting? time attack? circuit? the VR has a much more competitive advantage in all these other forms of motorsport...

there IS more road than JUST 1320 and a HP curve you know?

imo the JZ is PROVEN, given its time, its reliability from years of experience and its availability in ALL different forms of 'class' of cars. you can find a 2jz in MUCH more than 'just a supra' .....

...where are you gonna find a VR38?

...time will tell....

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby roadracer7 » February 13th, 2013, 12:06 pm

that's correct..as a drag racing engine ..yes .
as a street engine ..yes
as a car park racer.. no way
as a circuit or road course racer..no way

that sucker is very heavy for an aluminium headed engine..595 lbs
toyota reverted to the 3sgte in the supra to go corner carving because of the 2j's ill handling in the same platform

and went with the 3uz-fe v8 engine/supra combination to beat the dominant honda v6

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Miatabrah » February 16th, 2013, 10:27 am

RB30ET

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby nemesis » February 16th, 2013, 11:03 am

N54!!

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Postby Rooki3 » February 16th, 2013, 7:51 pm

20B

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Sinister_Audio » February 17th, 2013, 3:05 am

fail, not in class, and fail

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby ru$$ell » February 17th, 2013, 7:30 am

^why is it not in class,he asked for the best 6 cylinder of all time

The Greatest 6 Cylinder of all times has and will always be the BMW M30 line IMO

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby nemesis » February 17th, 2013, 10:06 am

Because they're talking strictly about which can be built to make the most power I believe.

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Rooki3 » February 17th, 2013, 12:47 pm

nemesis wrote:Because they're talking strictly about which can be built to make the most power I believe.


i agree with the N54, but i guess sinister is the internation authority on which engine is worthy :roll:

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Rory Phoulorie » February 17th, 2013, 12:53 pm

nemesis wrote:Because they're talking strictly about which can be built to make the most power I believe.

Rory Phoulorie wrote:Honda's RA168E 1.5L turbocharged V6 engine.

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Sinister_Audio » February 17th, 2013, 12:55 pm

Rooki3 wrote:
nemesis wrote:Because they're talking strictly about which can be built to make the most power I believe.


i agree with the N54, but i guess sinister is the internation authority on which engine is worthy :roll:



regional not international :idea:

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Rooki3 » February 17th, 2013, 12:58 pm

:lol:

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Rooki3 » February 17th, 2013, 1:02 pm

Rory Phoulorie wrote:
nemesis wrote:Because they're talking strictly about which can be built to make the most power I believe.

Rory Phoulorie wrote:Honda's RA168E 1.5L turbocharged V6 engine.


i had to google that, F1 biz, buh ogoarr, guess d OP was a lil too vague

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby roadracer7 » February 17th, 2013, 1:37 pm

honda's RA166E/167E made more power than the RA168E

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby roadracer7 » February 17th, 2013, 7:52 pm

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/1607/1987-cosworth-f1-gba-1200bhp-15l-v-6-engine.aspx

but the point is that these are not taxi cab engines that can be put into a beater and go fast

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby TriniGT » February 17th, 2013, 10:46 pm

RB30DET is definitely up there, or is this strictly a bone stock setup we speaking of? Built engines is a different ballgame!!!

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Death-Row » February 18th, 2013, 5:56 am

2jz would be the best 6 cyl in trinidad. outside, alot of different opinions, numbers etc. just pick one that you like i guess.

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Re: Whats your opinion..is Toyotas 2JZGTE the Greatest 6 Cyl

Postby Miatabrah » February 19th, 2013, 12:50 pm

TriniGT wrote:RB30DET is definitely up there, or is this strictly a bone stock setup we speaking of? Built engines is a different ballgame!!!

turbo RB30 only came with a SOHC head, but it flows a lot better than the DE heads and even the JZ heads. The fastest RB30 right now is a single cam

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