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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby kamakazi » August 15th, 2021, 7:02 pm

I'm just asking if you have ever experienced it.

The question is based on the observation that the wax on my vehicle (it isn't ceramic coated) appears to wear out in the area just behind the front wheel well, curving down the side of the vehicle.
Was wondering if the same happens on ceramic coated vehicles

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 15th, 2021, 7:05 pm

Also it's possible that it didn't fail and the sand is bonded to it.

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby kamakazi » August 15th, 2021, 7:06 pm

That is also a possibility.

there is no sign of water beading when the dirt is washed off but it is visible (the beading effect) on all other panels on the vehicle

I will take a picture next time. :)

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 15th, 2021, 7:20 pm

No problem. Hoping that it's just stuff on top of the coating. What product is the coating? Wanna do some research.

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby kamakazi » August 15th, 2021, 7:36 pm

No coating. :(
Turtle Wax Ice paste wax and Turtle wax spray detailer (to help with removal after the paste dries)

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 15th, 2021, 7:56 pm

Ohhh ok. In that case the wax might be coming off. It's like a coating of grease. So the salt could remove it, or whatever else is in the water. I believe after the intitial wax you could just spray the detailer on top and that helps maintain it. Have you ever tried that?

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby kamakazi » August 15th, 2021, 8:04 pm

Can't say that I have... Will give it a try in the future.

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Re: The Official Car Care Thread

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 15th, 2021, 8:29 pm

Using Jet Renu And Finish Renu products,meguiars wax though. Going to start learning CSI's brand soon. Actually thinking about getting an old bonnet to treat like sh*t so I can practice using Ceramx on it. Did this panamera last week.
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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 16th, 2021, 1:50 pm

Currently working on this x5. Years of incorrect washing and nothing to protect the paint. Polished the front to test and it removed about 60% of the wash marks. I like to shoot for at least 70% - 80% removal so I'll mow it down with compound then polish it. Don't think a good soap was used either as the paint looks ( dry. ) Interior is in good shape so I did minimal cleaning and dressed it to protect leather. Charged $300.00 as I'm building clientele and my reputation. Results later today
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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 16th, 2021, 4:31 pm

Got kept back. This is how it looks after the mowdown. Will finish in the morning
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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby Brad32 » August 16th, 2021, 7:51 pm

What compound you used by chance?

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 16th, 2021, 8:05 pm

Brad32 wrote:What compound you used by chance?
My dad is the authorized distributor for finish Renu and jet Renu. This removes anything that's 1000 grit and higher. It costs 180 per quart. I used a DA on the X5. But it works with rotary as well. Wipes of easy but dusts at high speed. So I wipe the wash the vehicle afterwards.
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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby Brad32 » August 16th, 2021, 9:13 pm

Ohh okay thanks alot, seeing that it working real nice, where is your dad shop located?

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 16th, 2021, 9:34 pm

St James, Port of Spain

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 16th, 2021, 9:46 pm

It works really well. Just have to be patient. It doesn't have fillers or anything. So ur just cutting. Takes more time on a Da. Trying to organize an old bonnet so I can practice using a rotary.

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby Brad32 » August 17th, 2021, 7:13 am

FineToothDetailing wrote:St James, Port of Spain

What’s the name of the shop?

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 9:20 am

Zano's Detail king. Dad's name is Joel. Spent alot of years doing company vehicles so not well known outside of that. 3695066 or 6286338

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 1:13 pm

Took video but not pics. Things got hectic. Working on his other vehicle now already buffed. Ready to polish after I do the lights.
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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 1:21 pm

Residue from the x5
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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby Brad32 » August 17th, 2021, 3:19 pm

FineToothDetailing wrote:Zano's Detail king. Dad's name is Joel. Spent alot of years doing company vehicles so not well known outside of that. 3695066 or 6286338

Ahh okay bro thanks alot

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 3:20 pm

Just finished
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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 3:26 pm

Brad32 wrote:
FineToothDetailing wrote:Zano's Detail king. Dad's name is Joel. Spent alot of years doing company vehicles so not well known outside of that. 3695066 or 6286338

Ahh okay bro thanks alot
No probs bro

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby nick639v2 » August 17th, 2021, 4:00 pm

FineToothDetailing wrote:Residue from the x5
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Did u clay the X5 before?? Is it necessary if I'm doing a 2 step compound then Polish?

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 5:47 pm

Clay removes the stuff bonded on top of the clear coat. Put your hand in a plastic bag and gently rub the paint. If it's feeling really rough you should clay the vehicle. What happens otherwise is you remove a little more clear coat than necessary and you clog the pad with things that can introduce scratches to the vehicle ( dried contaminants, dried compound, clear coat.) . Also when the pad gets clogged it will not cut like it should which slows you down. It Isn't needed Everytime but if the paint is rough after you wash it, claying will make life easier.
What worked for me was buffing from the good areas to the worst. Claying is great but not always needed. Unless it's high lvl work where there is no room for error.

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 5:47 pm

No I didn't clay. Lol forgot to answer that part. Waiting on clay to come in from amazon.

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Re: Ask A detailer

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 5:51 pm

I'm supposed to do a clear coat vid explaining alot of stuff but I don't get the time rn.

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Tips from a detailer. ( May not be daily. )

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 17th, 2021, 10:24 pm

Hey guys. Offering tips here that may or may not benefit you.

Tip. Soaps and polishing.

You ideally want 2 soaps. A soap with wax and a soap without wax.

Reason being is that wax soaps are more designed for maintenance, they make the car look polished when you dry them. When attempting to polish a vehicle however a problem arises ( one that you more than likely have experience with if you polished a car but you didn't know it was happening ) You start polishing and it takes awhile for you to see a difference in the paint... And ontop of that the polish is a bit difficult to remove. The reason is because the polish HAS to cut through the wax from the soap before it actually touches the clear coat and now all that wax is in your pad affecting the polish. You literally put a barrier on the vehicle that you now have to remove to get the job done. Costing you time.

That is the reason it makes sense to have a soap without wax if you plan to polish the vehicle. ( Squeezy works but don't make it too soapy, think clean paint not dry paint. If your fingers are gliding over each other in the soap water you have enough.

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Re: Tips from a detailer. ( May not be daily. )

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 18th, 2021, 8:27 pm

Tyre dressing! There are 2 types, silicone based and water based. The silicon based is the oily greasy one and the water based makes the tyre look new ( not really shiny just black. ) Personally I prefer the water based one because cleaning silicone based dressings are a nightmare! Also it traps dirt and muck making it look bad over time. Also they can cause accidents on wet roads if the user doesn't change tyres at the right time ( friend woke up to a car skating into his wall. )

If you need to clean it off use a stiff brush and blue soap. I don't know what they put in blue soap but it cuts through the dressing easier than any degreaser I used ( never used pure degreaser though. )

Some people like the glossy look of the silicone based dressing and there is no problem with that. But ideally water based dressing is better for the tyre. It doesn't look as shiny but there is no perfect product.

That's water based dressing on the tyre. Not glossy just a new tyre look. Also the tyre NEEDS to be completely dry wen applying.
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Re: The Official Car Care Thread

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 19th, 2021, 8:36 pm

Oof what happened here? A moderator moved my stuff to here?

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Re: The Official Car Care Thread

Postby FineToothDetailing » August 19th, 2021, 8:56 pm

Matte paint!!!! To make it clear. You should have dedicated soap for matte paint!!!! However if u have no choice. Use less soap than usual, work panel by panel and rinse the panel immediately! If the soap stays you will get lines or an uneven finish. This is not to be done continuously. If you own a matte vehicle or have clients with matte vehicles it would make life better to get matte products. I have to get as I have my first matte client. He is going to paint it over so I have some time. Researching products. If u guys know of any good products let me know.

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