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carluva wrote:If you do contact him, can you report back on your learnings?
I'll probably give a call out of curiosityzando wrote:At 182hp that's supposed to be the 2.5 boxer I think, at 279 that's not bad considering their 2.0 model starts over 300 grand I feel I gonna message this guy.Gladiator wrote:feeldavibe wrote:You sure that's not a north american ad you looking at bro? Cuz that wording is straight from Subaru North America. For one, we don't call it the Crosstrek, and the one they are referring to is a 2.5 liter engine.
See link
https://fb.watch/5KrSCwkoFK/
Zachary John - Luxury Sales Executive at Massy Motors
@LuxurySalesZacharyJohn · Automotive Consultant
kamakazi wrote:I see Subaru has a 1.8 turbo in their Japanese vehicles... Just not going to make it here I suppose
zando wrote:From what I know that's only in the Levorg wagon in Japan, maybe Europe I remember they made that to compete with the Lancer ralliart, it has some older WRX tech, also it puts out about 230hp, I think I'd try to get one of those foreign used or maybe special order one brand new.kamakazi wrote:I see Subaru has a 1.8 turbo in their Japanese vehicles... Just not going to make it here I suppose
mtec wrote:I bought my XV 1.6 mid spec in Oct 2020 for $265K discounted. This spec, model year 2021 is now $289K and discounted at $279K. Open to corrections if I'm wrong here. I'm not certain if there are any additional features but the bumper cladding, wheel arch cladding and front grill seems facelifted. I think the mechanicals remain unchanged.
The extra 20% HP in that advert is the 20% additional HP found in the 2.5 NA engine over the 2.0 NA. As far as I know the 2.5 engine is not available in any XV here from the local dealer. That said 2.5 NA engine is only available here in the Outback (again open to corrections). The general consensus by motor journalist is that the XV/ Crosstrek 2.0 is underpowered which leaves the 1.6 open to more criticism. Advertising extra power may catch a couple eyes so maybe that's why it was used in that advert.
e87 wrote:As a first-time car buyer, this thread has been an amazing resource. Big props to all the contributors, and to agent007 for keeping the first post updated.
I've been researching new cars and I'm hoping for some sage advice. With a baby on the way, we need a car for groceries, errands and doctor visits. Once the lockdown ends, add wife's (short) office commute, beach trips and other all-day activities. Budget-wise, we could consider up to ~300k for the right car.
Must-haves:
1. Good safety rating and features
2. Enough trunk space for stroller and gear
3. Fits budget
4. Decent ground clearance for the steep angle off our main road. A Honda City at 150mm is too low at almost any speed
Nice-to-haves:
5. Reliability and ease of maintenance for a first-time owner
6. Resale value
7. Decent design and looks without being carjack bait
8. Extra features like Android Auto / Apple Car Play, powered tailgate, etc
I'm currently looking at:Code: Select all
MODEL COST GROUND CLEARANCE
Suzuki SX4 S-Cross (GLX) $195,000 180mm
Mazda CX-3 (2.0 entry) $253,741 160mm
Mazda CX-30 (2.0 core) $288,000 175mm
Mazda CX-5 (2.0 entry) $316,000 193mm
Subaru XV (1.6 eyesight) $315,000 220mm
Should I scratch off any of these? Are there any obvious omissions?
I'm also assuming dealerships and licensing office all closed for the next 3 months of SoE, so I'll have plenty more time to ruminate over my spreadsheets, spec sheets and comparisons..
pipser wrote:Just saw this article
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mazd ... -cx3-dead/
Not sure if/how this will affect the local market but when I got my 3 at the end of last year I was told that they won't be bringing in the CX-3 anymore.
With regards to the fully loaded 3 that I ended up with we are very happy with the purchase 5 months in, first service is due next month but we'll have to see if things open back up to allow for servicing. Fortunately not much driving is happening right now so the mileage isn't ticking over too fast.
triniboi49 wrote:Powered tail gate - need is that the wife is a teacher and are hands full when going to the trunk - she has to always do some weird balancing to get stuff tailgate or trunk open.
Pre Covid teachers all ways have extra load. - test papers to mark, texts books, work bag etc.
Active cruise control - traffic after work, picking up the kids after school activities is stress - and it’s a long drive. Normally bumper to bumper traffic.
These are not deal breakers but as we are looking for a larger vehicle these were some of the things I’m looking at. I guess watching too much Doug Dimero and quirks and features.
The XV seems good with the iSight. Tuscon is missing the active cruise control as well as the Cx5.
A lot of the grey market CRVs coming with all the features at a good price. The Honda Sensing seems to be very good.
Rav 4 - I had a Toyota once, dealing with their service was not a positive experience.
triniboi49 wrote:
Chevrolet makes the Vitara?
Kronik wrote:How does the jeep compass hold out over time?
Gladiator wrote:triniboi49 wrote:I may be mistaken, but I'm sure I saw a new model Sorento today. Does anyone have any idea of the price? I understand the Santa Fe is here as well, and it is being listed at 575K.
EX 4x2 Gas 7 Seater - $460,124
Downpayment - $50,000
7 years - $5605 monthly
8 years - $4999 monthly
EX 4x4 Diesel 7 Seater - $485,437
Downpayment - $50,000
7 years - $5951 monthly
8 years - $5307 monthly
That's what the rep sent me...
triniboi49 wrote:Gladiator wrote:carluva wrote:Are those prices cheaper than the previous model? They sound that way cause iirc, the previous model was 500k+.Gladiator wrote:triniboi49 wrote:I may be mistaken, but I'm sure I saw a new model Sorento today. Does anyone have any idea of the price? I understand the Santa Fe is here as well, and it is being listed at 575K.
EX 4x2 Gas 7 Seater - $460,124
Downpayment - $50,000
7 years - $5605 monthly
8 years - $4999 monthly
EX 4x4 Diesel 7 Seater - $485,437
Downpayment - $50,000
7 years - $5951 monthly
8 years - $5307 monthly
That's what the rep sent me...
Not sure bro... but i feel the idiot send me the prices for the old model...LOL
The prices listed for the older model on Don Stephen’s site is lower than these.
So why would someone pay Massy almost 100K more for the exact vehicle? Is there something special about the Santa Fe over Sorento? I guess that’s why I see so many more Sorentos then Santa Fes.
Gladiator wrote:feeldavibe wrote:Gladiator wrote:All you Subaru XV fans here... I see Massy advertising the new model with more HP. Of course queries to their reps for info going unanswered... any of you know what are the new specs and also I see it starting at $279K now... is that correct?
Where are you seeing the ads?
Facebook ...
The most powerful Subaru Crosstrek ever is here, with extra horsepower to bring you more fun and adventure – both on-road and off. The 2021 Subaru Crosstrek features up to 20% more available horsepower, starting at $279,00 for 7 years with 0% down offered.
zando wrote:Geeezus, I spoke to the guy, even though I sent him the link he doesn't seem to be aware of what they posted lol let me paste the message.
Sooo I guess it was a mistake then, I would have bought it for that price too, is anyone even aware of a turbo xv? Afaik all engines are N/A.
'' The sport spec would most likely be the same spec as what we bring except it maybe a turbo engine. We just bring the 1.6 and 2.0 non turbo versions, the turbo is unavailable for our market unfortunately ''carluva wrote:If you do contact him, can you report back on your learnings?
I'll probably give a call out of curiosityzando wrote:At 182hp that's supposed to be the 2.5 boxer I think, at 279 that's not bad considering their 2.0 model starts over 300 grand I feel I gonna message this guy.Gladiator wrote:feeldavibe wrote:You sure that's not a north american ad you looking at bro? Cuz that wording is straight from Subaru North America. For one, we don't call it the Crosstrek, and the one they are referring to is a 2.5 liter engine.
See link
https://fb.watch/5KrSCwkoFK/
Zachary John - Luxury Sales Executive at Massy Motors
@LuxurySalesZacharyJohn · Automotive Consultant
carluva wrote:What a load!
Car salesman don't even know what they selling and putting up posts on their own FB page without knowing what they posting?
Stupes. Sounds like a bait trick indeed.
If only we had laws against false advertising.
triniboi49 wrote:mtec wrote:I bought my XV 1.6 mid spec in Oct 2020 for $265K discounted. This spec, model year 2021 is now $289K and discounted at $279K. Open to corrections if I'm wrong here. I'm not certain if there are any additional features but the bumper cladding, wheel arch cladding and front grill seems facelifted. I think the mechanicals remain unchanged.
The extra 20% HP in that advert is the 20% additional HP found in the 2.5 NA engine over the 2.0 NA. As far as I know the 2.5 engine is not available in any XV here from the local dealer. That said 2.5 NA engine is only available here in the Outback (again open to corrections). The general consensus by motor journalist is that the XV/ Crosstrek 2.0 is underpowered which leaves the 1.6 open to more criticism. Advertising extra power may catch a couple eyes so maybe that's why it was used in that advert.
Mtec as an XV owner would you be able to comment on the power?
agent007 wrote:triniboi49 wrote:mtec wrote:I bought my XV 1.6 mid spec in Oct 2020 for $265K discounted. This spec, model year 2021 is now $289K and discounted at $279K. Open to corrections if I'm wrong here. I'm not certain if there are any additional features but the bumper cladding, wheel arch cladding and front grill seems facelifted. I think the mechanicals remain unchanged.
The extra 20% HP in that advert is the 20% additional HP found in the 2.5 NA engine over the 2.0 NA. As far as I know the 2.5 engine is not available in any XV here from the local dealer. That said 2.5 NA engine is only available here in the Outback (again open to corrections). The general consensus by motor journalist is that the XV/ Crosstrek 2.0 is underpowered which leaves the 1.6 open to more criticism. Advertising extra power may catch a couple eyes so maybe that's why it was used in that advert.
Mtec as an XV owner would you be able to comment on the power?
A couple of weeks ago, I mentioned this:
"Actually the XV 1.6 is not as lethargic as say the Impreza 1.6 TS from over a decade ago. The new FB16 motor has variable valve timing on the intake and exhaust cams and the engine no longer has the parasitic loss of having a belt driven hydraulic power assist steering rack.
Further, those TS's barely made 94hp and 138Nm of peak torque. The new XV has 113hp and 150Nm of peak torque and that Lineartronic CVT truly enjoys a symbiotic relationship with that new boxer 4."
The transmission and throttle is tuned to give you that immediate torque response in the lower power band. You may get the feeling that it is actually more powerful than it seems. There's a but though. When at WOT, you realize the torque drops off rapidly and the power is not sufficient enough to keep that rate of acceleration. Perhaps its due to the vehicle's porky curb weight or just having to power 2 axles. If you were to line up a 1.6TS vs an XV 1.6, with surety, the XV will win. Improvement yes. Fast, not by any means. Acceptable for intended purpose? You bet!
agent007 wrote:Well reviewed there mtec.
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randolphinshan wrote:agent007 wrote:Well reviewed there mtec.
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