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I know looks are subjective but they will need to pay me to drive that fugly vehicle.triniboi49 wrote:At that price the Creta is a better buy.
wing wrote:I know looks are subjective but they will need to pay me to drive that fugly vehicle.triniboi49 wrote:At that price the Creta is a better buy.
I agree. Hyundai new design language especially their SUVs are really hard on the eyes. I really don't get the ultra slim lights on the bonnet with the big light in the bumper...it's almost making the juke(puke?)look good.Gladiator wrote:wing wrote:I know looks are subjective but they will need to pay me to drive that fugly vehicle.triniboi49 wrote:At that price the Creta is a better buy.
Yeah boy that's the worst looking vehicle on the road currently... sad part is that the old one was actually a nice looking little suv.
agent007 wrote:Not necessarily. The Elantra was built to pass first world crash safety standards since the platform is more rigid and advanced. The Creta was not developed with these standards in mind. Previously I mentioned some details of the Creta platform (just a few weeks ago...look it up). You would realize if one is Korean struck and is down to choosing either an Elantra or Creta, go for the former.
In essence, both are fwd and the Elantra is safer and more powerful. All the Creta has is a couple extra mm in ground clearance. Choice is clear.
NB. The Kia Seltos and Creta share the same 3rd world platform but has an airbag disadvantage to tune of 4 airbags. In other words, the Creta has a total of 6 and the Seltos has 2.
Fact checking for corrections are welcomed if necessary.
There are two types of Venues. The 3rd world spec and the NA spec. The platform may have a similar naming methodology/nomenclature but there is less use of advanced/ultra high strength steel sheets in the stamping process. More use of advanced ultra high strength steel in the form of bigger stamped pieces coupled with more spot welding will increase chassis/torsional rigidity. This augers well for safety with calculated structural deformation.zando wrote:Wouldn't the venue be a better choice safety-wise than the Creta as the venue is also available in the u.s.? And maybe also the Kia sonet? Also the Kia sonet is based on the venue architecture not so? Also the Kia seltos isn't based in the Creta architecture? I know the seltos is available in the u.s. so shouldn't they be using the same architecture?agent007 wrote:Not necessarily. The Elantra was built to pass first world crash safety standards since the platform is more rigid and advanced. The Creta was not developed with these standards in mind. Previously I mentioned some details of the Creta platform (just a few weeks ago...look it up). You would realize if one is Korean struck and is down to choosing either an Elantra or Creta, go for the former.
In essence, both are fwd and the Elantra is safer and more powerful. All the Creta has is a couple extra mm in ground clearance. Choice is clear.
NB. The Kia Seltos and Creta share the same 3rd world platform but has an airbag disadvantage to tune of 4 airbags. In other words, the Creta has a total of 6 and the Seltos has 2.
Fact checking for corrections are welcomed if necessary.
agent007 wrote:There are two types of Venues. The 3rd world spec and the NA spec. The platform may have a similar naming methodology/nomenclature but there is less use of advanced/ultra high strength steel sheets in the stamping process. More use of advanced ultra high strength steel in the form of bigger stamped pieces coupled with more spot welding will increase chassis/torsional rigidity. This augers well for safety with calculated structural deformation.zando wrote:Wouldn't the venue be a better choice safety-wise than the Creta as the venue is also available in the u.s.? And maybe also the Kia sonet? Also the Kia sonet is based on the venue architecture not so? Also the Kia seltos isn't based in the Creta architecture? I know the seltos is available in the u.s. so shouldn't they be using the same architecture?agent007 wrote:Not necessarily. The Elantra was built to pass first world crash safety standards since the platform is more rigid and advanced. The Creta was not developed with these standards in mind. Previously I mentioned some details of the Creta platform (just a few weeks ago...look it up). You would realize if one is Korean struck and is down to choosing either an Elantra or Creta, go for the former.
In essence, both are fwd and the Elantra is safer and more powerful. All the Creta has is a couple extra mm in ground clearance. Choice is clear.
NB. The Kia Seltos and Creta share the same 3rd world platform but has an airbag disadvantage to tune of 4 airbags. In other words, the Creta has a total of 6 and the Seltos has 2.
Fact checking for corrections are welcomed if necessary.
The Seltos we get is different to the NA version. Ours is the 3rd world Indian made model. The explanation remains same as mentioned above.
If you compare the chassis engineering of a Creta/Seltos etc to say vehicles like the Mazda CX-30 or Subaru XV, you would realize why those 2 Jap vehicles are priced as much more expensive crossovers within the same class. What captivates people to the Korean vehicles is features (you know the glitz and glam stuff).
Any real tuner on this forum, once they drive that CX-30 or XV and then drive a Seltos or Creta afterwards would not hesitate to pass up on the Korean rides even if they offered more Bose speakers and led lights.
What's the appeal of a sunroof in our market?agent007 wrote:Zando, the Seltos started off at $209k and was increased by $22k (now $231k) to capitalize on said sales for more profit. I think it’s the LED lights and the sunroof that caught people and not the fact that it’s a third world vehicle with 2 airbags.
Now tell me more about this new HRV, who has them already? I’m surprised and a bit impressed if this is confirmed true, because Honda literally just started production of it and to be physically in the country is really impressive! At those prices for a grey market 1.5 vehicle, they could keep it. Personally I think it looks like a hard hat, especially in white. I would also like to know if it comes with Japanese displays and if we can get 100% of the menus in English.
agent007 wrote:Zando, the Seltos started off at $209k and was increased by $22k (now $231k) to capitalize on said sales for more profit. I think it’s the LED lights and the sunroof that caught people and not the fact that it’s a third world vehicle with 2 airbags.
Now tell me more about this new HRV, who has them already? I’m surprised and a bit impressed if this is confirmed true, because Honda literally just started production of it and to be physically in the country is really impressive! At those prices for a grey market 1.5 vehicle, they could keep it. Personally I think it looks like a hard hat, especially in white. I would also like to know if it comes with Japanese displays and if we can get 100% of the menus in English.
agent007 wrote:Wing,
Maybe you should ask them Seltos buyers that. Would love to see a little survey done on what are their priorities in purchasing a new vehicle.
Zando,
Afaik, the mazda 3 uses an unbranded system. I sat in a "fully loaded" one in the showroom fairly recently and I can tell you, it was boseless.
zando wrote:Damnnn it's really hard to find a car in this country that has a decent sound system.
agent007 wrote:I upgraded the sound system in a vehicle I purchased back in November 2019. I wanted brand consistency because my head unit was a Pioneer. So I set out to install everything Pioneer. All speakers were replaced and I placed one 12" sub in the trunk. Believe me when I say, no BOSE or RF or Infinity system could come close. I shocked plenty people when they learnt that my entire music system was Pioneer, down to the amp!
Anyway, for stock premium sound systems like the BOSE in a CX5 for example, its pretty decent. Back when SS imported the Kia Sportage 2.0 GT Line, those crossovers came with a JBL branded system and I can tell you, whilst not bad, those JBL/Infinity equipped vehicles want nothing with a BOSE. Surprisingly, a client of mine has an ASX with a RF system and the best way I can describe the sound to you is like listening to a Beats headset. Plenty lows and very little highs. So right off the bat, you know this would appeal to the hiphop crowd. BOSE might not appeal to some youngies because the system targets a myriad of frequencies to deliver an all-round immersive experience. To get more 'pong' you will have to change your factory default sound settings to deliver what you're looking for. Meanwhile it have B13's out there with sound systems so beautifully tuned, it would make a Burmester supplied Benz crawl in a corner and weep in shame.
zando wrote:I was looking for the posts on fb but can't find them, should have taken down the names of the companies, I'm not sure if they were in the country but it looked like they had them and were in the process of import, those companies that take orders before they import them, if I see another post I'll reply here.
You know anything about the bose 8 speaker sound system in the Mazda 3 we get? I see in the u.s. they get the 12 speaker with the sub, not sure if the one we get comes with the sub or the kick panel speakers.agent007 wrote:Zando, the Seltos started off at $209k and was increased by $22k (now $231k) to capitalize on said sales for more profit. I think it’s the LED lights and the sunroof that caught people and not the fact that it’s a third world vehicle with 2 airbags.
Now tell me more about this new HRV, who has them already? I’m surprised and a bit impressed if this is confirmed true, because Honda literally just started production of it and to be physically in the country is really impressive! At those prices for a grey market 1.5 vehicle, they could keep it. Personally I think it looks like a hard hat, especially in white. I would also like to know if it comes with Japanese displays and if we can get 100% of the menus in English.
Strugglerzinc wrote:zando wrote:I was looking for the posts on fb but can't find them, should have taken down the names of the companies, I'm not sure if they were in the country but it looked like they had them and were in the process of import, those companies that take orders before they import them, if I see another post I'll reply here.
You know anything about the bose 8 speaker sound system in the Mazda 3 we get? I see in the u.s. they get the 12 speaker with the sub, not sure if the one we get comes with the sub or the kick panel speakers.agent007 wrote:Zando, the Seltos started off at $209k and was increased by $22k (now $231k) to capitalize on said sales for more profit. I think it’s the LED lights and the sunroof that caught people and not the fact that it’s a third world vehicle with 2 airbags.
Now tell me more about this new HRV, who has them already? I’m surprised and a bit impressed if this is confirmed true, because Honda literally just started production of it and to be physically in the country is really impressive! At those prices for a grey market 1.5 vehicle, they could keep it. Personally I think it looks like a hard hat, especially in white. I would also like to know if it comes with Japanese displays and if we can get 100% of the menus in English.
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triniboi49 wrote:Trying to find the right vehicle at a ‘reasonable’ cost is difficult in Trinidad. Any mid size SUV from the a new dealer under 350k - (which in my case is still a lot of money) - is lacking features or you have to live with some compromises. You go grey market you there is a big risk in the type of after sales service.
The features that are important to me include decent rear seating space, USB in the rear, fully adaptive cruise control, powered rear door, decent looks (rules out the Eclipse), decent power, plenty cup holders and reliability.
triniboi49 wrote:Trying to find the right vehicle at a ‘reasonable’ cost is difficult in Trinidad. Any mid size SUV from the a new dealer under 350k - (which in my case is still a lot of money) - is lacking features or you have to live with some compromises. You go grey market you there is a big risk in the type of after sales service.
The features that are important to me include decent rear seating space, USB in the rear, fully adaptive cruise control, powered rear door, decent looks (rules out the Eclipse), decent power, plenty cup holders and reliability.
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