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Postby RA40-GTE » December 29th, 2007, 9:39 am

Ok guys, some advice needed here...
I didn't post this in the Ole Talk section as I want to avoid all those irrelevant comments from ole talk.

I'll be returning to Trini in August 08 most likely. I'd like to return with my Pajero as I know they still sell for a bit back home. Now I've done the forum searches and have got quite a bit of info, but some of it is a bit sceptical...I've seen different info for the age of the car, returning residents and tax breaks for the car etc.

I'd like to bring it as a retuning resident. The car is a 94 LWB Pajero, bought it for next to nothing in the UK, when compared to the price it sells for in Trini. My wife has residency in the UK for the past 18yrs, and by August 08, we would have owned the car for just over 1 year. The car is also registered in her name in the UK, hence the retuning resident part...

I've seen posts here:
http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/vie ... g+resident
where its said that the car cannot be older than 4 yrs, however I've seen others here:
http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/vie ... g+resident
as in X2 case, he brought his civic in as a returning resident, but his car was older than 4 yrs?


At the end of the day, I'll be shipping all our personal effects back to trini, so its just a matter of including the car in it, and I dont want to end up paying 120k to bring back the pajero, and I can get it home for cheaper..

The car is a 3.0 1994 Pajero. Can I do it? Is it worth it? If the licensing cost is too much, can I buy the rights to another pajero and license it or is that illegal?? I don't want to consider any illegal alternatives, so that is absolutely out of the question..

Ok guys, help me out here! :D

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Postby RX7FAN01 » December 29th, 2007, 10:26 am

Yes, you can take it back as a returning resident as long as you have owned it for over 6 months. The longer you own it, the less it would cost in duties. I took a 1992 RX7 to trinidad that I had owned for 8 months, I just brought it in from Japan to the USA, and waited 7 months then sent it down with other personal effects.

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Postby RA40-GTE » December 29th, 2007, 10:40 am

Has the RX been licensed since you sent it to trini? What kind of difference in $ was it after it was licensed compared to what it sold for in trini?

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Postby RX7FAN01 » December 29th, 2007, 11:52 am

Yes, it's licensed in Trinidad now. As far as the diff in price, I couldn't tell you, what I can tell you is that the total fees to clear and license was around $12,000.00 TTD

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Postby Death-Row » December 29th, 2007, 12:10 pm

sorry to bomb on your thread RA40-GTE but


RX7FAN01,what was the process taken in bringing the RX7 in since i have my greencard and might soon be a citizen and alot of the cars i like are too old to license legally i wanted to import a car into USA, just keep it there for a 1 year at my uncle's place and then import it.

what is the process and is this a one time thing only? or can i do this a couple more times?

thanks.

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Postby Ignorant Ignis » December 29th, 2007, 12:46 pm

your will be interviewed by customs and will have to prove returning residency ...if not you will be charged the full value of the vehicle determined by customs valuation dept..... = ass raped

you can only return once ...... so don't try no tricks ....

i will find out more for you on monday and reply

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Postby RX7FAN01 » December 29th, 2007, 1:38 pm

What he said, lol,. Actually , you also have to get an import license as well. It wasn't that bad, only thing was that I applied for the license AFTER the car left the USA, needed a Bill of Lading if I remember correctly. There is no real proof that I needed that I was a returning resident, just had to get a notarized affidavit stating that I was returning and how long I spent in the USA. The RX7 was a great choice for me 'cause it had a "1300cc" engine ( Drift 3rd Gen modded to 600WHP etc) , since taxes are less for anything under 2000cc if I remember correctly.

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Postby RA40-GTE » December 29th, 2007, 1:39 pm

Death-Row, no problem man.

Ignis, I don't see much of a problem proving the residency, and yea no tricks with the returning part either. I really don't want to end up paying full value of the Paj in customs nah....it might cost me a downpayment on a house by the time they done with me

Will definitely look forward to the info you get on Monday

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Postby RA40-GTE » December 29th, 2007, 1:44 pm

RX7FAN01 wrote:What he said, lol,. Actually , you also have to get an import license as well. It wasn't that bad, only thing was that I applied for the license AFTER the car left the USA, needed a Bill of Lading if I remember correctly. There is no real proof that I needed that I was a returning resident, just had to get a notarized affidavit stating that I was returning and how long I spent in the USA. The RX7 was a great choice for me 'cause it had a "1300cc" engine ( Drift 3rd Gen modded to 600WHP etc) , since taxes are less for anything under 2000cc if I remember correctly.


Do I apply for the import license from trini? I can get the Paj de-registered here really easy..the DVLA quick with stuff here.
Also, Bill of Lading from UK or Trini?

Do I have to concern myself with the paperwork this much, or can I just let the shipping agent handle that?

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Postby RA40-GTE » December 29th, 2007, 1:48 pm

RX7FAN01 wrote:Yes, it's licensed in Trinidad now. As far as the diff in price, I couldn't tell you, what I can tell you is that the total fees to clear and license was around $12,000.00 TTD



Thanks...but the 12k being mainly due to it being 1.3? So I looking at real $$ for a 3.0???

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Postby Death-Row » December 29th, 2007, 4:58 pm

im just asking. :lol:

if im brining in a Skyline R32GTR from USA. this car was made in 1990. They think that ive been a returning citizen b4. Can i still import the car and pay full taxes and stuff or they will just impound the car and let it ROT :lol:

im just asking eh.

will be anxiously waiting on ignis info since Trinidad really get rediculous in car prices.



PS: Ignis, why the name change? :lol:

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Postby RA40-GTE » December 29th, 2007, 5:14 pm

no.. i believe that the car will be impounded. Thats where the 4 yr rule will come into play, since you are already a "returned resident"

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Postby Death-Row » December 29th, 2007, 5:35 pm

RA40-GTE, :lol: just wanted to know. Also, does the car need to be licensed and insured over there? or can you just import it and keep it in ya garage until a year or something?

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Postby RA40-GTE » December 29th, 2007, 5:53 pm

the car needs to be registered and licensed in your name here before you export it from uk...It doesn't need to be insured if you're not using it on the road.

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Postby Death-Row » December 29th, 2007, 6:11 pm

RA40-GTE,niceee. will look into this some more in the later years when money plays right. thanks.

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Postby Conrad » December 30th, 2007, 12:46 am

Death-Row hate to burst ur bubble but finding a R32GTR in the US of A...goodluck.

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Postby RX7FAN01 » December 30th, 2007, 11:54 am

There are actually quite a few in Florida

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Postby Conrad » December 30th, 2007, 8:34 pm

mmmkay, I stand corrected. Thought there was a lot of red tape to import the Skyline from since way back then... I learnt something today.

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Postby RX7FAN01 » December 30th, 2007, 9:40 pm

There is a company in Orlando that brought them in and registered them. They brought in R32 - R34s . Don't know if they are still doing it. At one point there were a few R32s in a used car lot here :-)

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Postby Conrad » December 30th, 2007, 10:41 pm

XS Engineering? I have a magazine with a guy's R34 GTR which did 625 ponies I think they were responsible for tuning, N1 upgrades and "the bringing up to US safety spec". Don't know if they did R32s as well. Oh lawd sorry if I take over a man thread. Just love the R32, it's my dream machine.

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Postby Death-Row » December 30th, 2007, 10:53 pm

yup. remember seeing a R32GTR tuned and in great condition. think it was clockin 400 horses. nothing that extraordinary but it was going for 10K USD. thats a great price for a skyline to me.

According to if and how long i stay up there for when time comes, ill look to get a R34 GTR if things go right yes cause ill be in FL and i know FL is the state for it :lol:


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Postby X2 » December 31st, 2007, 12:17 am

There is not really an age limit on returning resident's cars... My car was over 10 years old. You will get a discount on the displacement taxes... but a 3.0L has a high-ish tax rate on it's own... but I am definite that you that if you add the cost of the car plus w/e shipping and duty you end up paying, you will end up paying only HALF as much as buying the same car in TnT.

You will need the title, BOL and other shipping docs, you will need to get an affidavit saying you are returning and have never claimed before, etc... it's a process that a good shipping broker can really help with... I recommend you use a broker rather than try to DIY....contacts are a hell of a thing.

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Postby RA40-GTE » December 31st, 2007, 8:38 am

X2, thanks very much! If I do decide to send it, I'm definitely using an agent, I surely not trying that on my own. The only thing thats the still a concern for me is that tax rate for the 3.0L.

http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/vie ... ht=mvt+vat

And working with the percentages from that link, it coming up quite high..grr

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