T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[drchaos]

Could the low sulphur diesel from the new plant be more for export rather than local consumption? Would make more financial sense to export it and continue to feed T&T with sheit diesel.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Not possible with the final plant design. All diesel made locally will be ulsd.

[dogichi]

Somebody need to tell these dealers we getting better diesel soon. The Euros especially they sticking bringing diesel vehicles here because they say the diesel poor. Hope next year things change and we get a better selection of diesels

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Out of curiosity...what makes you think they are not already aware that it is coming?

[de_dougla_smurf]

Could the low sulphur diesel from the new plant be more for export rather than local consumption? Would make more financial sense to export it and continue to feed T&T with sheit diesel.

But that is what happening already.

besides, were not going to pay what that diesel is really worth so...

[nemesis]

Maybe the price of the jags here might be the issue....men rather spend their money on Audi, BMW and Mercedes and higher end Porsche and Rover.

Doubt it. Before the tax changes last year they were actually the cheapest 3.0L euro you could buy. Not what about now, but I'd expect that they all changed by the same amount, leading to a similar situation. Then again, you rarely see people go for 3 or 3.5 models. Usually it's either 1.8/2.0 and after that it's straight to the top. Maybe the pricing in that range is different.

Bunny I also agree that the jags look great. No idea about the local reliability of the new ones. I did however have issues with simple build errors when I checked them out. Like being able to see the exhaust piping through the improperly finished fender shield. Just looks wrong. Or the showroom model having those moving vents, except that a car with 100miles on it had one not working already, for what is essentially a completely useless feature.

[Slartibartfast]

Always loved a Jag. Could never afford one. Normal thing

[scotty_buttons]

Maybe the price of the jags here might be the issue....men rather spend their money on Audi, BMW and Mercedes and higher end Porsche and Rover.

Doubt it. Before the tax changes last year they were actually the cheapest 3.0L euro you could buy. Not what about now, but I'd expect that they all changed by the same amount, leading to a similar situation. Then again, you rarely see people go for 3 or 3.5 models. Usually it's either 1.8/2.0 and after that it's straight to the top. Maybe the pricing in that range is different.

Bunny I also agree that the jags look great. No idea about the local reliability of the new ones. I did however have issues with simple build errors when I checked them out. Like being able to see the exhaust piping through the improperly finished fender shield. Just looks wrong. Or the showroom model having those moving vents, except that a car with 100miles on it had one not working already, for what is essentially a completely useless feature.

Was wondering how long those vents usually last.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

It's easy to forget about reliability when thinking of new cars. All I was thinking of is I want one but good point nemesis.

What about resale values locally? Maybe Jags have lower values locally than the competition?

[Ted_v2]

Personally I'd go with a sportero. It's a van that most people don't like but it's a excellent competition between them and the nav/lux.
It's a bit ugly tho

[kamakazi]

The sportero feels the most car like among pickups to me.... Haven't got the chance to really unwind one though:smile:

[drchaos]

Don't buy a jag if u considering reliability. Buy it because you got a ton a money and u enjoy the finer things in life!

[nemesis]

It's easy to forget about reliability when thinking of new cars. All I was thinking of is I want one but good point nemesis.

What about resale values locally? Maybe Jags have lower values locally than the competition?

I think if you're spending 750+ on a vehicle and are worried about resale, you probably shouldn't buy any of them, so I doubt this is a consideration. How many local used AMG models have you seen for sale to the general public? The people in that range will either just keep, or return it to the dealer for the new model at a very low trade in value.

Don't buy a jag if u considering reliability. Buy it because you got a ton a money and u enjoy the finer things in life!

Exactly.

[tourniquet]

Jaguar in general has been at the back of the class in terms of sales in a lot of markets, and it's really only been a few years since IMO they've started making appealing vehicles throughout its range.
Locally, I don't think the agent has done enough to introduce and entice potential customers to the new Jaguar. Also, I'd imagine that the idea of being able to purchase a Jaguar in the showroom in south, but then have to take your vehicle up to the north branch for service is a turn off for a fair amount of people.
As for reliability being the cause for slow sales, if that was a main factor, I think Land Rover/ Range Rover would be in the same boat as Jaguar, but that's not the case.

[nemesis]

I don't think driving north to service is an issue. Look at how many mercs there are in south.
And actually I think you can get the basic service for a Jag in south. It's the special services like every 20000km or whatever, or if something is seriously wrong, that you have to go north. And in that event they'll put it on a tow truck and carry it for you if you really don't want to make the drive.
I think Jag started with a really bad reputation for reliability/quality and it is taking quite a long time for them to break out of that idea in people's mind. It's like trying to tell someone that your Kia gave you less problems than your Toyota in it's lifetime. They'll just say you got lucky and they'll keep buying Toyota.

[drchaos]

The still selling the Land Rover Defender?

[tourniquet]

I don't think driving north to service is an issue. Look at how many mercs there are in south.
And actually I think you can get the basic service for a Jag in south. It's the special services like every 20000km or whatever, or if something is seriously wrong, that you have to go north. And in that event they'll put it on a tow truck and carry it for you if you really don't want to make the drive.
I think Jag started with a really bad reputation for reliability/quality and it is taking quite a long time for them to break out of that idea in people's mind. It's like trying to tell someone that your Kia gave you less problems than your Toyota in it's lifetime. They'll just say you got lucky and they'll keep buying Toyota.

I'll disagree with your first idea, by agreeing with your last. People will go with the brand they perceive to be better, so if Merc and Jag both have to do servicing up north, it's natural for folks to cut some slack to the Mercedes, because....."well, it's a Benz". Asking someone to do the same with an un-established brand is a bit more difficult.
As for them doing basic servicing for jaguar down south, the last time I asked them about it was sometime late 2012/ early 2013 and they told me everything was done up north; honestly didn't know if things changed since then.
As for the Defender, I believe those are special order vehicles now.

[Oxonian]

Discovery 4 Showroom Price.

Was thoroughly disappointed with the Freelander 2 ride. In my opinion, it was very stiff and the 6 speed trans wasn't exactly sure what gear to be in. Interior and handling were good though. The BMW X3 offered a much more comfortable ride and better experience. Next is the Q5 then decision time, does anyone have any different experiences on these vehicles they'd want to share?

[scotty_buttons]

More than 1 million for a discovery now ??? That used to be range rover money :/

[drchaos]

Cause its the Discovery 4! DuHHHH ....

[dogichi]

Best you take that money and buy a Porsche Cayenne.

[scotty_buttons]

Best you take that money and buy a Porsche Cayenne.

Exactly.
I couldn't believe the price so checked the uk price and it ranges from 38k to 58k pounds. Where the 58k model is better equipped than this one here for 1.1million.

[acesinghit]

the Discovery has to be one of the most mud loving/offroad SUV's out there..
the Cayenne is a hotel parking lot kinda SUV, the 4wd will be used just in case it rains so puddles of water on paved roads won't pose as a problem

[trini mk5]

^^errr how many LR discoveries do you see off roading in trinidad???? Your point is invalid.

[DJ Q]

^^errr how many LR discoveries do you see off roading in trinidad???? Your point is invalid.

You sir, are just looking to create a problem.
His/her post outlines the Pros of two different vehicles.

[trini mk5]

^^errr how many LR discoveries do you see off roading in trinidad???? Your point is invalid.

You sir, are just looking to create a problem.
His/her post outlines the Pros of two different vehicles.

His/hers post didnt outline the pros of two different vehicles. It just stated the pro of one vehicle.
The point is still invalid. Why have the best 4x4 vehicle on the market (which i agree with) but nobody that buys them actually uses its capabilities. So in that regard the cayenne is the better vehicle.
Lets not get side tracked here though, $1.1Million for a Disco is toooooo muchhhh

[Renaldo25]

^^ Well said. As we talking porsches I wonder if the macan has arrived yet? Been seeing some cayennes that look lower and smaller than usual not sure if thats it? COuldnt get close enough to see model names

[Slartibartfast]

This is a stupid question but are those expensive cars worth it. What extras do you get in a Disco and Cayenne that you don't get in a fully loaded Prado or Sorento.

I'm guessing they all have the options for leather interior and trim, powered erryting, mp3/bluetooth player, dvd player, sport mode, all wheel drive etc.

What makes those other cars worth the extra 400-600k. Do they last any longer?

[nemesis]

That is possibly the least relevant question here. "if they're worth it" depends on the person buying. Not the person looking at them and judging.

[scotty_buttons]

This is a stupid question but are those expensive cars worth it. What extras do you get in a Disco and Cayenne that you don't get in a fully loaded Prado or Sorento.

I'm guessing they all have the options for leather interior and trim, powered erryting, mp3/bluetooth player, dvd player, sport mode, all wheel drive etc.

What makes those other cars worth the extra 400-600k. Do they last any longer?

I can safely say those said vehicles feel more premium, tons more features and well of course you're paying for the name as well. In my opinion, if I had the money, I'll take a Cayenne over Pratdo anyday. Recall Prados are 800k now eh. Cayenne diesels are a little over 1 million.