T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[metalgear2095]

Yes

[greggle71]

Given the increasing volumes of vehicles on the road, would you support a cap or quota system? For example 10,000 new private registrations per year, and other class vehicle registrations governed by a quota?

[DJ Q]

Given the increasing volumes of vehicles on the road, would you support a cap or quota system? For example 10,000 new private registrations per year, and other class registrations governed by a quota?

Several problems with that, but I like the idea of trying to fix.
I've always believed that the velocity of the traffic has been the problem, not the volume.

We can, however, probably look deeper into carpooling. Maybe we can require 5 people, including the driver, in a vehicle to be able to use the bus route 24/7.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

I wouldn't support it. Doesn't solve the true problem. Also traffic isn't super gridlocked to necessitate such a drastic measure. If you gonna do a quota system one would need other services and infrastructure to be brought up to scratch before.

[greggle71]

I wouldn't support it. Doesn't solve the true problem. Also traffic isn't super gridlocked to necessitate such a drastic measure. If you gonna do a quota system one would need other services and infrastructure to be brought up to scratch before.

I agree in part, it would be nice if we could have a proper alternative transport system in place, but how sustainable are our existing road networks given the rate of new registrations in a calendar year? These days you can see upwards of 25,000 plus a year and older cars remain functional. At some point before the alternative is in place, a decision will have to be made.

[DJ Q]

Biggest problem with putting a cap on vehicle registration is that it limits business sales in that calendar year.
Toyota will always sell more vehicles than a sole trader moving some RORO vehicles.

[greggle71]

Biggest problem with putting a cap on vehicle registration is that it limits business sales in that calendar year.
Toyota will always sell more vehicles than a sole trader moving some RORO vehicles.

What I was thinking is that individuals have to go through an application process via transport ministry and then take their approval to the dealership of their choice either new or import used. Ultimately sales will suffer but the marketshare should remain the same by percentage. This could actually help boost the local used car industry which shouldn't be subject to quotas.

[greggle71]

Biggest problem with putting a cap on vehicle registration is that it limits business sales in that calendar year.
Toyota will always sell more vehicles than a sole trader moving some RORO vehicles.

What I was thinking is that individuals have to go through an application process via transport ministry and then take their approval to the dealership of their choice either new or import used. Ultimately sales will suffer but the marketshare should remain the same by percentage. This could actually help boost the local used car industry which shouldn't be subject to quotas.

[DJ Q]

Biggest problem with putting a cap on vehicle registration is that it limits business sales in that calendar year.
Toyota will always sell more vehicles than a sole trader moving some RORO vehicles.

What I was thinking is that individuals have to go through an application process via transport ministry and then take their approval to the dealership of their choice either new or import used.

I don't understand what you mean by this.
If I'm correct, what you want to do is lmit new/roro vehicle registration to one series every year (10,000 cars)?

Seeing that a series now expires in roughly 3.5 months, does that mean that cars should no longer be sold after April? PDB came out just before Christmas and is well into the 3000's...

[greggle71]

Biggest problem with putting a cap on vehicle registration is that it limits business sales in that calendar year.
Toyota will always sell more vehicles than a sole trader moving some RORO vehicles.

What I was thinking is that individuals have to go through an application process via transport ministry and then take their approval to the dealership of their choice either new or import used.

I don't understand what you mean by this.
If I'm correct, what you want to do is lmit new/roro vehicle registration to one series every year (10,000 cars)?

Seeing that a series now expires in roughly 3.5 months, does that mean that cars should no longer be sold after April? PDB came out just before Christmas and is well into the 3000's...

The actual limit is debatable but how sustainable is 25,000 to 30,000 in newly registered vehicles on the nation's roads every year. Something will have to be done at some point.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

2014 2.0 litre Kia Koup - $240,000.00

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=549690

[Renaldo25]

^^Oh I Like this. Btw Happy New Year Tuners. As far as limiting the amount of cars on the road i think those in authority may have to get some of those old gas guzzlers off the road somehow or impose a fine or fines somewhere

[Rory Phoulorie]

^^Oh I Like this. Btw Happy New Year Tuners. As far as limiting the amount of cars on the road i think those in authority may have to get some of those old gas guzzlers off the road somehow or impose a fine or fines somewhere

What do you classify as "old gas guzzlers"?
Suppose a brand new super-computer controlled Nissan GT-R uses more fuel than a 17 year old carbureted Mitsubishi Lancer? Which car should be removed from the road?

I've always believed that the velocity of the traffic has been the problem, not the volume. . .

Most of our roads are over their volumetric capacities and this affects vehicle velocities.

[DJ Q]

I remember hearing talk some years back about an idea to build a bypass road in the air from POS market to land in cocorite, for those travelling to & from the west and don't need to go into town.

That may really help the bottle neck.

[noshownogo]

2014 2.0 litre Kia Koup - $240,000.00

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=549690

160hp and 148ft lb rated for the 2.0

There is also a 1.6 turbo shared with the Hyundai Veloster rated at about 200hp. Don't think our market will see its arrival though.

[Renaldo25]

^^Oh I Like this. Btw Happy New Year Tuners. As far as limiting the amount of cars on the road i think those in authority may have to get some of those old gas guzzlers off the road somehow or impose a fine or fines somewhere

What do you classify as "old gas guzzlers"?
Suppose a brand new super-computer controlled Nissan GT-R uses more fuel than a 17 year old carbureted Mitsubishi Lancer? Which car should be removed from the road?
I did say old but not because its old do you remove it. but if new cars are coming out at the rate they are then the old ones (interms of age, emissions levels etc.) may need to be replaced...just a suggestion...and comparing the emissions of a lancer and a gtr is pretty daft one has a twin turbocharged engine and one has a 1.6...but if you use emissions as your yardstick then both would go

I've always believed that the velocity of the traffic has been the problem, not the volume. . .

Most of our roads are over their volumetric capacities and this affects vehicle velocities.

[drchaos]

240? That Koupe gonna compete with the jetta price wise and engine power wise.

Anyone got the 0 to 60 time?

[S_2NR]

240 is too much for that.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Engine tax iymc

[dogichi]

Best you pay the $205,000 for the Cerato sedan....not justifiable for the extra $35,000.

[cinco]

Best you pay the $205,000 for the Cerato sedan....not justifiable for the extra $35,000.

Wut

[DJ Q]

Wasn't the old Cerato Koup $40,000 more than the standard?

[dogichi]

For what's available now, I rather spend $240,000 on another vehicle

[metalgear2095]

For what's available now, I rather spend $240,000 on another vehicle

Like what?

[cinco]

For what's available now, I rather spend $240,000 on another vehicle

Like what?

A foreign used coupe of some sort. Afaik there arent any other 2dr coupes fs for less than 500k

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

For what's available now, I rather spend $240,000 on another vehicle

Like what?

Lancer? Jetta? Corolla? Civic? Focus? a fugly 1.6T Juke maybe?

Only things that comes to mind in that price bracket for cars currently.

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[drchaos]

Isn't the MVT over 40K on vehicles with a 2L engine?

Why not bring down the 1.6 turbo? The price difference should not be that bad when you factor in the taxes. The duty will be charged at a higher rate as well for the 1.6 vs 2.0L.

[Renaldo25]

Actually if you think about it 240 k for a 2 litre 2 door coupe isnt that bad....especially considering other 2 door coupes calling 400 k and up...the golf gti and toyota 86 come to mind...better performance perhaps but if you do a fair comparison thats really a very good deal imho...hopefully the 0-60 time is sub 9 seconds whichi would make it even more competitive...

[Infamous]

Checked out the Elantra today;

GLS-$179,900
GLS Value Pack-$199,900
GLS Fully Loaded-$219,900

Might as well round them off and done.

Also saw a Cerato in the showroom on some decent aftermarket rims that I think complimented the car well:








Salesperson said the Koup supposed to be here by next month and the aforementioned $240K price tag. .