Old School Projects

[Ruff]

dais AE80 lights, $175 each by seenaths

Yep Nova.

[d spike]

Yes and im still awaiting an explanation of that red vauxhall with a ford engine in it...u r not as influential as i thought ....lol

Not much to explain...
It first ran in Solodex with an A15 engine (head shaved 18 thou, four-into-one headers, later ran a 32/36 Weber), then a Burton-modified 1600 Kent with the same carb and Burton-built headers. It now has a stock 2000 Pinto (won't be stock for long, I hope! )
While it now runs as a daily driver, it hasn't run in Solodex for quite a while.

[nigie]

oppps that was meant for Mr telstar I mean mr vauxhall himself.....lol

[MG Man]

Yes and im still awaiting an explanation of that red vauxhall with a ford engine in it...u r not as influential as i thought ....lol

not much to explain
it is what it is, and as a rare Gentleman, the owner does not go running around proclaiming 'it bess' and splash pics all over the internet

[cinco]

dais AE80 lights, $175 each by seenaths

Yep Nova.

nope nova taillight


try yuh bess

[MG Man]

KIa Kia Kia KIa Kia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[d spike]

Yes and im still awaiting an explanation of that red vauxhall with a ford engine in it...u r not as influential as i thought ....lol

not much to explain
it is what it is, and as a rare Gentleman, the owner does not go running around proclaiming 'it bess' and splash pics all over the internet

"rare Gentleman"??? ME???



Wait a minute...

You saying my car not bess???


Look boy... It bess, yuh hear??

[nigie]

That front suspension looking real cortinaish.....hummmm i have 2 investigate vauxhall

[d spike]

That front suspension looking real cortinaish.....hummmm i have 2 investigate vauxhall

That's because it is... Cortina suspension front & rear - B13 rear disc brakes too.

[MG Man]

sad thing is he was trying to make a right turn

[d spike]

sad thing is he was trying to make a right turn

Like someone wants a kick in the...

[Ruff]

^^^ He reversed into a pothound.

[MG Man]

they sellin de front cut orr?

[cinco]

that is just a tailwind
with the rust on an mg that is a normal occurance

[MG Man]

I think that car was modified with extra reinforcement tho....

[nigie]

hello spike do u know where i can gets me a ford 2000 hot cam

[d spike]

hello spike do u know where i can gets me a ford 2000 hot cam

Depends how hot...

Wait a minute, Mr. V8...
Wouldn't you be needing two? You know, for the other four cylinders...?

[MG Man]

nigie is a closet 4-cylinder lover!~

[d spike]

nigie is a closet 4-cylinder lover!~

Would his pals think he is really half the man they thought he was?

Or has his love for V8s become a half-hearted affair?

[cinco]

nigie is a closet 4-cylinder lover!~

Would his pals think he is really half the man they thought he was?

Or has his love for V8s become a half-hearted affair?

he just loves the 4cyls twice as hard

[nigie]

nigie is a closet 4-cylinder lover!~

Would his pals think he is really half the man they thought he was?

Or has his love for V8s become a half-hearted affair?

he just loves the 4cyls twice as hard

no...i like fours....i just love EIGHTS..........
lol nah ...just dem younguns that eat, sleep, and excrete SR20 need 2 know what a real 4 cylinder is about...so ...i have 2 resort to this painstaking backward step...but...its all in the process of education .......

[king bob]

hey. after much needed self slapping upon the thought of sellin the hunter. i'm back
so what's the first thing i so in the resto process?

[d spike]

no...i like fours....i just love EIGHTS..........
lol nah ...just dem younguns that eat, sleep, and excrete SR20 need 2 know what a real 4 cylinder is about...

Darn tootin'... all they are aware of is lumps of aluminium and plastic.

Those blasted little whipper-snappers certainly need to know how a real engine performs.
I take it you want something "streetable" (less than 300 degrees duration)?

so ...i have 2 resort to this painstaking backward step...

"backward"????

"painstaking"???

nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah...
yuh could go an'

but...its all in the process of education .......

Well... since you put it that way, I will go shake a few branches and see what falls out...

[d spike]

hey. after much needed self slapping upon the thought of sellin the hunter. i'm back
so what's the first thing i so in the resto process?

I certainly agree with the

much needed self slapping

I trust some of those slaps were hard enough...

If you stick one of these under the hood of the Hunter, you can't go wrong...

them guys long gone MG Man... Everybody on Japanese performance now.
Sad really.

No, not everybody. Some are still here. I have been trying to encourage a group of them to attend Solodex, and to take part... but they are wary/weary of the idiots whose kindest remark is along the lines of, "Why yuh eh put ah SR in dat?" (and this is after they have doled out many a cut-arse on more "modern" cars)... so they will attend... but only when everybody's project is complete.
Here is one of them... a Hillman Hunter with a 2000cc Pinto, stock cam, headers, and a pair of IDFs.




They say the devil finds work for idle hands, and today we met and were idle... So we painted lines on the garage floor by doing this nonsense today with the same car.

[d spike]

The 2000 cc Pinto can take all sorts of rough treatment: obscene overheating, timing belt failure...
The chap who introduced me to this very engine claims to have once leaned over his idling beast while revving it by hand (he had it in an Escort) and accidentally dropped a ball-bearing into the open double-throat Weber... the Pinto spat the slug out of the exhaust...

[king bob]

where can i find one of those and what is one of those. yes the slaps were as hard as u can imagine. nw i've had some slaps in my time of 19 yrs on this earth, but nothing hurts more than being slapped mentaly by yourself and people who know you

[d spike]

where can i find one of those

Once you know where to look - everywhere. Every young fart and his brother who locates a Ford with one of these, instantly thinks, "Ah jus' have tuh slap in ah ess-arr, an' ah go get real powah..." All you need to do is be Johnny-on-the-spot and offer to do them a favour by getting rid of their unwanted boat anchor.
One of these with a 32/36 Weber and headers will whip the shat out of most non-turbocharged cars on the road.
Turbo-charge it... and make sure to have a bowel movement BEFORE you go driving.

and what is one of those.

Here is what Burton Power has to say on the matter:

Introduced by Ford in 1970, the Pinto was one of the first production engines to carry the cam on top of the head, driven by a toothed belt.

The Pinto was manufactured in Cologne and was naturally fitted to many German cars such as the Taunus, including the 1293cc version also fitted to early Sierras. The most common to us are the 1593 and 1993cc derivatives. A 1796cc version was introduced in mid-life Sierras and an E-Max 1.6, introduced in 1984, sharing the 1.8 and 2.0 litre rods.

You’re likely to find a Pinto in Mk3 / Mk4 / Mk5 Cortinas, Capris, Mk1 / Mk2 Escorts, Granadas and Transits. All engines have a rear-bowl sump with the RS2000s being alloy.

The engine is crossflow type with the carb on the right, exhaust left (when viewed from the front). Cam geometry can be a problem so it’s recommended to use a complete kit to ensure components match, such as the ones we stock by Kent. The non 2 litre engines are particularly troublesome in this area so we wouldn’t recommend fitting anything more than a base, mild / fast road cam in these. A new spray bar is also valuable insurance on any engine.

As usual, the 2 litre is the tuner’s favourite with the 205 ‘Injection’ block being the most suitable base - these are better at taking the maximum re-bore of 93mm and are most suited to 2.1 litre conversions. Cortina blocks usually have the capacity in small numbers on the side - 16 and 20 respectively. Later Sierra blocks have 165, 185 and 205. The early Cosworth YB also used a ‘selected’ 205 block.

It is fairly common to use 2.8 V6 pistons coupled with a 93mm bore but traditionally, machining is involved - the block needs decking, whilst the rods need the small ends narrowing. We stock Accralites especially for this purpose, which removes the need for additional machining.

Skimming can raise compression to a 10.5:1 maximum and beyond this you’ll need forged pistons, to a safe 12.0:1. It is best to check the size of the combustion chamber on any used head by having it cc’d first. This not only guarantees the compression but can also help with checking the valve to piston clearance too, which can be an issue with previously skimmed heads.

The Pinto’s crank is able to out-rev the rods, which can be a weak link - 7500 is the absolute maximum we would recommend, although this really only applies to the later wider injection rods, which are stronger than the early type.

The 2 litre heads have massive ports to start with so good gains can be had by merely fitting a Kent FR32. Even the best standard Pinto carb a 32/36 DGAV twin choke, is enough to power the engine to 135bhp. Our Stage 1 heads, suitably set up, will reach these levels and feature proper valve guides in place of the standard cast-in type and raised compression. All our heads can be ordered ready converted to run on unleaded fuel.

After this level, the next step is side draughts and it’s best to go straight to 45 DCOEs since the inlet ports are huge. 44 IDF down draughts are a good alternative, but they are much more expensive.

Add a Kent FR33 and our stage 2 head and you should see 150-155bhp. Beyond this and you’re into fast road bordering on race, which means, depending on carb size - 48s and even 50s - you should be seeing an easy 185-200bhp, plus.

At this level, we would only recommend steel components for reliability because you’re on the limit of standard type components. We stock Farndon Cosworth YB cranks for this purpose, which is essentially the same except that it carries a 9 bolt flywheel fixing instead of the standard Pinto bolt pattern. We also stock special Pinto 9 bolt flywheels to match. However, on this point, if you use a Pinto crank it is advisable to have it double-dowelled for safety - it can shear! We also stock std length steel H-section conrods to match this crank as well as YB length rods which are 1.5mm longer.

A great engine with loads of potential.

i've had some slaps in my time of 19 yrs on this earth

19 years, eh? That explains it...

[d spike]

I still don't know what there is to explain about this:


I'm parking her up, mainly to go over the rear suspension, replacing all the ancient bushings that survived Solodex with a Datsun A15 and a modified 1600cc Kent... but have given up having to deal with a stock 2000cc Pinto on the road.

I'll use the down-time to give her a thorough clean-up (hopefully some body-work too, if I have the time)


This is my latest plaything. (I can't honestly say "project", because there is so little to do!)
Swapped out the failing transmission for a five-speed Sierra box, put in a high-torque starter... that's it.

[wagonrunner]

This is my latest plaything. (I can't honestly say "project", because there is so little to do!)
Swapped out the failing transmission for a five-speed Sierra box, put in a high-torque starter... that's it.

Aye aye.
welcome to wagonfold good sir. If only zodiaque could see you now.

[king bob]

lol
thxx dude, every dog cat and timmy tellin me put a sr in it or a bule bird. bt that's no fun 2 me so afert seein those pics i on d hunt 4 a pinto engine