T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[dogichi]

We all want true sport, not this pseudo sport they shove on us that is just pure cosmetics.

[16 cycles]

saw mack rampersad (sp) offering Toyota Fortuners now @ 569k IIRC - add in this week's business express

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

We all want true sport, not this pseudo sport they shove on us that is just pure cosmetics.

What's true sport?

[acesinghit]

569k for a fortuner?

2 airbags, ladder frame truck chassis, rear drum brakes, Hilux interior, Toyota symbol of success.

[acesinghit]

true sport is the capability to accelerate to 100kmph in as little as 8.4s

the Jetta makes it in this elite list.

This is the range:

Yawn:
8.5 - above

Sport:
6.5 - 8.4s

Ultra sport
4.5 - 6.4s

Exotic / Supercar
2.5 - 4.4s

B!tch mode
0 - 2.4s

[mitisubishiboi22]

this needs to be updated as these prices not correect

[Renaldo25]

true sport is the capability to accelerate to 100kmph in as little as 8.4s

the Jetta makes it in this elite list.

This is the range:

Yawn:
8.5 - above

Sport:
6.5 - 8.4s

Ultra sport
4.5 - 6.4s

Exotic / Supercar
2.5 - 4.4s

B!tch mode
0 - 2.4s

dont forget the ablity to make your man vegetables tingle when you taking corners
what ford should do is stock the range of engines for those fiestas so at least youll have a choice...
heard those new ecoboost engines are nice though...

[dogichi]

Ace defined what I mean by "true" sport. I thought that would be understood. We get vehicles that look sporty but are not sports vehicles/cars. WE pay for looks rather than performance.

[Morpheus]

Because they most of the time don't bring the sports options/packages.

That's why most people have to bring in their own either new or Roro.

[kjaglal76]

true sport is the capability to accelerate to 100kmph in as little as 8.4s

the Jetta makes it in this elite list.

This is the range:

Yawn:
8.5 - above

Sport:
6.5 - 8.4s

Ultra sport
4.5 - 6.4s

Exotic / Supercar
2.5 - 4.4s

B!tch mode
0 - 2.4s

forever cyaking abt that 2nd hand jetta

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

One man's true sport is another man's yawn. That's why I asked. I wouldn't put the Jetta in the true sport category myself.

[dogichi]

For me 7 secs and under is really quick...you feel that g force kick you in your stomach....when you can make people feel like someone has a foot on their chest...you've got a true sport

[j.o.e]

One man's true sport is another man's yawn. That's why I asked. I wouldn't put the Jetta in the true sport category myself.

clearly..was wondering how 8.4seconds..could be sport? Thanks A2BE for talkin some sense

[ingalook]

You really think the sport sold that well?

There are probably more Swift Sports on the road than regular swifts... if someone from Lifestyle happens to be on tuner they can confirm

Confused by the "true sports" comment, this was the fastest version of the car that the MANUFACTURER produced, Lifestyle actually brought their brand's FASTEST model... probably the only local seller to do that... not their fault it wasn't very fast to begin with

[drchaos]

Proper sporty cars not only fast they have stiff suspensions which is a pain to drive on our roads. The jetta suspension stiffer than a corolla but not in sports territory. Go over a pot hole and you does feel it thru the whole car.

SO thats another reason they probably think that they wont sell that well.

[4Motion]

First, I'm going to apologise in advance for an another bit of a "rant" about Toyota and their car offerings.

I was looking at the Toyota FJ Cruiser for $612,000. So let me start, I understand with a 4.0L engine that the engine tax attracted will be high.

But Toyota Trinidad & Tobago please can you stop advertising car spec like:
- Driver & Passenger seat belts
- Rear Seat Belt
- Speedometer with Tachometer
- Digital Clock
- Sun-visors
Along with many other basic things...

I mean really I'm considering a $600k+ car and you're telling me about seat belts and a clock? Really Toyota? Really? It's almost insulting and the sales reps smug faces and "It's a Toyota" attitude doesn't help.

Toyota always makes me feel I'm being ripped off. I can sort of expect to get basics in a Yaris but, not in 600K SUV.

I'm sure it's a capable offroader being able to take you places where an Audi Q5 or Mercedes Benz ML350 could ever take you but at least give me leather and some other comfort features to make me feel I'm getting something a little premium.

*Rant over*

Back to more interesting things like what is considered a fast car, super car, damn slow etc

2008 Subaru Forester 2.5XT - Mine
2009 Volkswagen Tiguan 2.0TSI Sport & Style 4Motion - Wifes

[dogichi]

If I buying anything $600K+.... It can't be anything other than German engineering

[4Motion]

If I buying anything $600K+.... It can't be anything other than German engineering

Couldn't agree more had a weak moment and decided to consider my options

[cinco]

Ever sat in an fj? Interior is crap rear visibility is ridiculously poor suspension is painful tbh its one of the worst new vehicles ive ever had the misfortune to drive

[dogichi]

I never knew Toyota had such a vehicle. But at that price point, who spending their money on a Toyota? I going Audi, Mercedes or BMW and spend my hard earned money.

[4Motion]

Ever sat in an fj? Interior is crap rear visibility is ridiculously poor suspension is painful tbh its one of the worst new vehicles ive ever had the misfortune to drive

I didn't drive it. Did sit in it though. The interior... was basic. The rear visibility... don't think I have ever seen something so bad, would need a back up camera and parking sensors for sure.

I never knew Toyota had such a vehicle. But at that price point, who spending their money on a Toyota? I going Audi, Mercedes or BMW and spend my hard earned money.

Well they have some people buying it. At any price point I wouldn't be buying a Toyota, there is just no value for money. Yaris, I would rather a Accent or Rio and save money too. Corolla, I would take Cerato, Octavia, Jetta. Same for the RAV4 would with no hesitation choose a competitor Tiguan, Sportage, Kuga.

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[acesinghit]

If I buying anything $600K+.... It can't be anything other than German engineering

The Accord SiR 3.5 VTEC V6 deserves some attention though with that amount of coin. Trust me, that aint no typical Jap and I can't believe I just said that.

[scotty_buttons]

What's so great about the v6 accord though? Apart from the motor..

[ingalook]

Proper sporty cars not only fast they have stiff suspensions which is a pain to drive on our roads. The jetta suspension stiffer than a corolla but not in sports territory. Go over a pot hole and you does feel it thru the whole car.

SO thats another reason they probably think that they wont sell that well.

There is a perception that euros are more expensive/difficult to maintain, that is the MAIN reason that Trinis don't buy them (and their resale is crap)

[dogichi]

Euros are expensive to maintain, but their resale value holds well however. Resale value was something to note 20 or so years ago, when your options were limited and your father and grandfather drove a "Toyota". But now with the features and the improvement with a lot of brands, people are buying a lot of other brands second hand besides the Japanese. Expensive...yes, poor resale...no

[acesinghit]

Scotty, for the size of the vehicle and the equipment listing not to mention the power you get the Accord is def a strong contender in the half-mil class. If we use brand perception to the accord's advantage coupled with resale value and the virtues mentioned above, it presents itself as a good package for European cross shopping. To get over 270HP in a German car for $500k is next to impossible brand new. So that's why I say the accord should get some attention in that class. For those who think I went rogue on the Euros no I did not because this is not a comparison on a fwd sedan vs rwd giants like a 5-series or e-class.

[acesinghit]

oh and another thing, Allergic you may not consider 8.4s to 100kmph as true sport since the Jetta TSI falls within this time however we acknowledge times have changed as vehicles got faster over the years. One must consider though that the original Aston Martin DB5 like the one used in the James Bond films report a similar acceleration and 1/4 times and this is a British sports car. Even the original Datsun 240 and 260 couldn't report those times. The famous 323 GTX has a similar time as well as the MX3 V6 and the original Miata is actually slower. Lastly the first gen RX-7 GSL edition posted almost the same. Here's some from Toyota with similar performance: 94' Celica GT and 84 Supra.

If you maintain that this is not sport then would this suffice?

Sports
4.5 - 6.4s

Exotic / Supercar
2.5 - 4.4s

Pretty much all modern day cars with some flavor of sport can post a time in those cats above.
To each their own and I can respect that.

[drchaos]

Sadly the new Mazda 5 will probably come with the 1.5L motor. Only 99 bhp, 10.7 seconds to 0 to 60

[DJ Q]

New Mazda 6 looks like an Elantra

[metalgear2095]

New Mazda 6 looks like an Elantra

Saw one on the ramp by courts. I prefer it to the elantra. The elantra has too many sharp lines IMO.