T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[Renaldo25]

Now we talking. one setta swift sport go be on the roads now lol
as far as the mazda 6 being 315 k, thats a helluva damn good price...dont be surprised if it goes up exponentially when the first shipment sold out...but for now...im impressed...

[noshownogo]

And the "first shipment" might be all of 2 cars

[cinco]

you dont understand skyactiv do you?
its not a horsepower engine its an economical unit the hp wars are getting out of hand anyway most of the reviewers say the 2.0 is adequate anyway
315 really isnt a horrid price especially from that dealer

Your POV is noted. However, you missed some critical info I included in my post above.

The engine is a typical 2000cc motor with a DOHC 16V head now featuring SVT on the intake and exhaust. With a higher compression ratio and a more efficient air/fuel mixture in the combustion chamber, I expect as in some other auto-makers an increase in HP.

The inclusion of DI alone increased HP on many other current production engines why not the Mazda? Of course I know this is an economy oriented motor but in typical Mazda style, the HP rating is not enough! Kia and Hyundai's equivalent non GDI motor ie. the MPI motor in the Optima produces at least 162hp.

But maybe you're right after all, I don't understand Skyactiv at all. Maybe with Mazda when you include more efficient technologies into an engine it reduces HP and bumps up torque.

mazda has never been a lass leader in HP ratings outside of the speed line vehicles.
its also lighter than most other vehicles in its class so the hp numbers may seem weak but the driving dynamics is all there.

[drchaos]

LoL at that swift sport ... Sports seats and sports suspension means the car is sporty? What ever happened to sport also meaning quick?

Dem Skyactive engines taking premium?

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Careful. Swift sport might cut yuh jetta unno. Better handling too.

[dogichi]

Nice styling on that Mazda 6, but even with that 2.5L skyactiv engine..it's still slow off the mark. 0-100km/h is 9.4secs. Don't know how the jetta and passat compare with these figures. Not bad for a Mazda, but I rather spend the extra, and get a Benz, Audi or lastly a BMW. But I could see that Mazda 6 getting plenty sales and rival the optima and the sonata. Should be interesting

[dogichi]

Unfortunately in this country when we say sport attached to any vehicle, it usually means cosmetic changes and not engine changes where it should count. I rather have a sports car than a sporty looking car....lol

[drchaos]

The figures on the engine is as good as a hyundai elantra. Then again it is small ... but still i will never believe it until i see it!

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

With that engine the Mazda 6 2.5 skyactiv does 0-60 in 7.8-8.2 seconds which places it about even with the passat 1.8t, jetta 1.4tsi, 116i, 316i.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013020 ... /130209922

[acesinghit]

I extracted the below info from a quick web search:

mazda 6 2.5 6AT (184HP):
0 - 60mph in 7.0s
0 - 100mph in 20.0s
1/4 mile in 15.6s @ 90mph

Honda Accord 2.4 CVT (185HP) :
0 - 60mph in 7.4s
0 - 100mph in 19.3s
1/4 mile in 15.9s @ 91mph

Nissan Altima 2.5 CVT (182HP)
0 - 60mph in 7.6s
0 - 100mph in 20.5s
1/4 mile in 16.0s @ 90mph

Ford Fusion 1.6T 6AT (178HP)
0 - 60mph in 8.3s
0 - 100mph in 24.9s
1/4 mile in 16.4s @ 85mph

It appears the Mazda 6 2.5 has a strong motor. Sadly it is not offered locally. The 2.0 version propels the Mazda to 62mph in 10.5s in 6AT form.

The Subaru Legacy 2.0 CVT does the same in 11.3s and the Kia Optima 2.0 in 11s.

So cinco is right. Despite the power disadvantage, the Mazda seems to be putting down respectable numbers. Maybe the engines are putting out more HP than Mazda would like to admit. How odd/rare is that!

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Jed nothing odd or rare about it. If y'all pay attention to things like torque, vehicle weight, gearing, the type of tech in the transmission you would already know the new 6 has decent performance with better fuel economy. I swear some of y'all just buy cars based on the hp figure alone.

[acesinghit]

^^I was one of those until I was disappointed with the CVT. I thought this cannot be the future since it does not IMHO feel any faster than a similarly equipped non-CVT transmission. Then 3-years ago I went in blindly and got a DSG car and my goodness, I was impressed. Noisy and jerky yes but I didn't care. It utilized every pony more sufficiently I might add. Now I figured with Mazda, what can another 6-speed automatic transmission add to the auto spectrum now? Your comments above made me conduct more research as to why the Mazda would perform better than the engine output figures suggest and then I stumbled on this site. Trust me, this is worth the read:

http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/skyact ... drive.html

In a nutshell, Mazda claims that the SKYACTIV-DRIVE transmission combines all the advantages of a CVT and dual-clutch! Now if Mazda had small boosted engines like VAG paired to these transmissions then zoom zoom it is.

[cinco]

Im awaiting the diesel mazdas...
If you read more into this complete new redesign the mazdas are also lighter and more rigid due to a new steel used which is stronger than the current metal but way lighter.

[cinco]

Also the hp wars in the us hav subsided a bit ppl have begun to realise 300+ hp in a dd makes no sense when u wont use that power. The economy is what sells

[kurpal_v2]

Jed nothing odd or rare about it. If y'all pay attention to things like torque, vehicle weight, gearing, the type of tech in the transmission you would already know the new 6 has decent performance with better fuel economy. I swear some of y'all just buy cars based on the hp figure alone.

My merc has more HP than your vw

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Jed nothing odd or rare about it. If y'all pay attention to things like torque, vehicle weight, gearing, the type of tech in the transmission you would already know the new 6 has decent performance with better fuel economy. I swear some of y'all just buy cars based on the hp figure alone.

My merc has more HP than your vw

[agent007]

The mazda 6 is a nice car, I checked it out less than 2 hrs ago and saw these features

2.0 Skyactiv Technology engine (so says engine cover)
6 speed tiptronic
17" 225/55R17 rims
all wheel disk brakes with ABS and EBD
Brake assist and traction control
fabric seats (very firm)
reverse parking sensors
rear air conditioning vents
LED rear lights
projector head lights
BOSE 9 speaker stereo with controls on the steering
USB and aux-in support
cruise control
front vanity mirrors with lights
front + side + head airbags
full power features
keyless entry with button start
260kmph speedo

The car is very big but has a very low roof line. The trunk is deep but not very wide and the dashboard is made of a soft touch material but the door trim is not all that soft.

What it doesn't have?

fog lights
sunroof
spoiler
reverse camera
LED DRL's
18"/19" rims
leather seats
powered front seats
11 speaker BOSE
blind spot monitoring system
xenon lights
2.5 Skyactiv engine

The fully loaded version with the additional feats will come in Q4 2013.

oh and for today only the price is $312,000. The 2 in the showroom both white and black are sold.

[agent007]

These are pics from Toyota's south showroom:

[Renaldo25]

see see? what did i tell you. INTRODUCTORY PRICE lol so here comes the 399 k pricetag lol. ahhhhh that overpriced lexus. so very ugly. like someone designed it with an axe.....

[dogichi]

I think when they say 312k introductory price for the Mazda 6...the normal price might be a 322k. What you guys think? Or you think it will be more? 330k maybe?

[Rory Phoulorie]

That Mazda6 real ugly, both inside and out. The Ford Ranger is much better looking than the BT-50. Those taillights on the BT-50 are nothing short of garish. Mazdas fail massively from an aesthetic point of view.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

I think when they say 312k introductory price for the Mazda 6...the normal price might be a 322k. What you guys think? Or you think it will be more? 330k maybe?

I think it'll stay there for a while actually. I dunno. Basing it on the jetta which has a "special" price for pretty much 2 years and now just went up after selling alot.

[Ted_v2]

That Mazda6 real ugly, both inside and out. The Ford Ranger is much better looking than the BT-50. Those taillights on the BT-50 are nothing short of garish.

Agreed

[metalgear2095]

That Mazda6 real ugly, both inside and out. The Ford Ranger is much better looking than the BT-50. Those taillights on the BT-50 are nothing short of garish.

Agreed

I wouldn't say ugly but it just looks old. Reminds me of the last model Mazda 3.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

That Mazda6 real ugly, both inside and out. The Ford Ranger is much better looking than the BT-50. Those taillights on the BT-50 are nothing short of garish.

Agreed

I wouldn't say ugly but it just looks old. Reminds me of the last model Mazda 3.

It hasn't been remodeled yet on the new Mazda design philosophy found in the new 6.

[noshownogo]

Brrr? Mazda 6 ugly? Or you were referring to the BT50?

I like the Mazda 6 look, those in the showroom missing fogs and larger rims. The latter to compliment the much larger look. 17's are way too small on that car, mind you much more practical.

[dogichi]

Are we predicting then an increase in Mazda 6 sales? I find there are better cars out there looks and features wise for the same amt of money. Southern Sales service has gotten a bit better though, so it's really a balancing act...take the car down to 300K and you may have a serious competitor on your hands

[gastly369]

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Are we predicting then an increase in Mazda 6 sales? I find there are better cars out there looks and features wise for the same amt of money. Southern Sales service has gotten a bit better though, so it's really a balancing act...take the car down to 300K and you may have a serious competitor on your hands

What other cars are you talking about besides the Passat in the $300k - $320k price range that are better looks and feature wise?

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Besides lighting, wheel size, paint and fogs? Nothing really.