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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 20th, 2009, 8:05 pm

kimi & massa ftw!

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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 24th, 2009, 5:39 pm

Lewis: I will not abandon my team
Friday 24th April 2009

Lewis Hamilton believes that as World Champion it is now time for him to stand up and be counted.
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3 ... 11,00.html

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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 24th, 2009, 5:40 pm

Massa: Definitely not a good day
Friday 24th April 2009

Felipe Massa has conceded that Friday's running in Bahrain was "definitely not a good day" for himself and Ferrari.


Ferrari are in Bahrain this weekend hoping to avoid an unwanted record as, should they finish Sunday's grand prix without a World Championship point, it will be the first time in the team's history that they have failed to score a single point in the opening four races of a season.
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3 ... 94,00.html

def not a good time to be a tifosi :( :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Postby Maserati » April 24th, 2009, 5:46 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 014917.stm

Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen says he cannot match the speed of early season pace-setters Brawn GP and Red Bull and does not see that changing any time soon.

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Postby aR&D » April 25th, 2009, 9:24 am

Toyota 1-2. Vettel 3rd, Button 4th, Hamilton 5th .....

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Postby Rory Phoulorie » April 25th, 2009, 11:46 am

Post-qualifying car weights - Bahrain

Saturday, April 25th 2009, 15:18 GMT

From the 2009 season, the FIA is making public the weights of the cars, with their fuel load included, following Saturday's qualifying session.

Below is the weight of each car following qualifying for the Bahrain Grand Prix, sorted by qualifying position.

Pos Driver Team Weight (kg)
1. Trulli Toyota 648.5
2. Glock Toyota 643.0
3. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 659.0
4. Button Brawn-Mercedes 652.5
5. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 652.5
6. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 649.0
7. Alonso Renault 650.5
8. Massa Ferrari 664.5
9. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 670.5
10. Raikkonen Ferrari 671.5
11. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 678.5
12. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 680.9
13. Kubica BMW-Sauber 698.6
14. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 696.3
15. Piquet Renault 677.6
16. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 679.0
17. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 678.5
18. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 652.0
19. Webber Red Bull-Renault 656.0
20. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 667.5

Autosport


Toyota is probably looking to sell some Landcruisers before the race tomorrow.

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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 25th, 2009, 12:08 pm

man...what a topsy turvy season this has been...i supporting RBR as a ferrari customer! :D

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Postby worksux101 » April 25th, 2009, 12:13 pm

The Toyotas are lighter than Vettel, so should be a good race up top...

Expect some very exciting stuff from Webber...he's stayed crazy light at the back of the pack, in one of the fastest cars on the grid, so look out for him flying through the grid...
Also...Kovaleinen vs Raikonnen should be another decent battle...similar fuel loads and the McLaren is a slightly faster car atm...

Supporting ma boy Vettel as usual... :lol:

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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 25th, 2009, 12:20 pm

at least this race starts at a reasonable time for us in T'dad

i agreee with the race up top, will be entertaining once there aren't any 1 st corner dramas

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Postby Rory Phoulorie » April 25th, 2009, 12:21 pm

JoKeR1980 wrote:man...what a topsy turvy season this has been...i supporting RBR as a ferrari customer! :D


FYI,

Red Bull Racing uses Renault engines.

Scuderia Torro Rosso uses Ferrari engines.

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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 25th, 2009, 12:22 pm

crap my bad, i knew it was one of them...blame it on the hangover


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Postby teems1 » April 25th, 2009, 12:51 pm

wow @ 2 Toyotas on front row.

hopefully Lewis with KERS could do some spectacular driving into Turn1 at the start.

could prolly jump the Brawn and Red Bull!

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Postby Freelander » April 25th, 2009, 1:32 pm

glad to see teh toyotas up top although brawn is meh team!

button and bara will make their pressance known in teh race have no fear :twisted:

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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 25th, 2009, 4:21 pm

toyotas are the lightest

Weights
01. Trulli Toyota 648.5
02. Glock Toyota 643.0
03. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 659.0
04. Button Brawn-Mercedes 652.5
05. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 652.5
06. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 649.0
07. Alonso Renault 650.5
08. Massa Ferrari 664.5
09. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 670.5
10. Raikkonen Ferrari 671.5
11. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 678.5
12. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 680.9
13. Kubica BMW-Sauber 698.6
14. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 696.3
15. Piquet Renault 677.6
16. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 679.0
17. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 678.5
18. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 652.0
19. Webber Red Bull-Renault 656.0
20. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 667.5

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Postby worksux101 » April 25th, 2009, 5:13 pm

08. Massa Ferrari 664.5
09. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 670.5
10. Raikkonen Ferrari 671.5
11. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 678.5
12. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 680.9
13. Kubica BMW-Sauber 698.6
14. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 696.3
15. Piquet Renault 677.6
16. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 679.0
17. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 678.5
18. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 652.0
19. Webber Red Bull-Renault 656.0

20. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 667.5


That's what i was referring to in my earlier post...those two are the lightest by a long way, and Webber has one of the fastest cars in the grid, so look out for alot of action in the back...

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Postby Rallyfignis » April 26th, 2009, 7:32 am

Just now...

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Postby Maserati » April 26th, 2009, 9:52 am

button
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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 26th, 2009, 10:02 am

vettel to ferrari!

glad kimi got some pts

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Postby teems1 » April 26th, 2009, 10:15 am

hah! I knew Lewis would use KERS well at the start. Its a shame the Brawn passed him so easily afterwards :(

oh well, 2 weeks till Barcelona, and loads of teams will have their own trick diffuser.

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Postby God Bless the Black Top* » April 26th, 2009, 10:58 am

button FTW!!!!

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Postby worksux101 » April 26th, 2009, 12:13 pm

boring race...bleh...

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Postby djaggs » April 26th, 2009, 1:05 pm

PLenty passing in the pits....like a typical Ferrari/Schumacher race

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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 26th, 2009, 10:13 pm

LAST RACE - 26th April
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Bahrain GP: Winners and Losers
Sunday 26th April 2009

STAR OF THE RACE
Jenson Button showed that he has the metal to be a World Champion with his third win in four races. Driving a very careful race, the Brit brought his Brawn GP car home in such extreme conditions that his engineers were telling him to cool it as early as Lap 7 - and that was running in free air.


He made a great start, tucking up his championship rival Sebastian Vettel and condemning him to a first stint behind Lewis Hamilton. He dispatched Hamilton with a supreme bit of overtaking (more of that below) and then drove within the parameters laid down by Ross Brawn.


He was never really under pressure thanks to Vettel being delayed by Trulli and then Trulli being delayed by Vettel, but if Trulli couldn't get past the Red Bull then he wouldn't have got anywhere with the Brawn.


That 'Milepost' just gets quicker and quicker.


Overtaking Move of the Race
Lap 2: Jenson Button on Lewis Hamilton for P3.
Button knew that he needed to get past Lewis Hamilton in a hurry, and he also knew that it was going to be difficult getting past a McLaren equipped with KERS. Yet such is the Brawn's agility in the braking zone that Button was able to dive inside into Turn 1 and get his car stopped. It looked a very neat move on a driver who hates being overtaken.

Alonso made a brave move on Trulli round the outside on Lap 14, but as we know, Trulli's a nookie when it comes to strong arm stuff.


WINNERS



Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 2nd
'Katie's Dirty Sister' took Seb to P2 and installed him as Jenson Button's clear title contender. We ought to point out that Sebastian likes to give his cars names and for this race we got....Katie's Dirty Sister. It would have been interesting to see what might have happened if the Dirty Sister hadn't been held up behind The Anthony Hamilton Pension Scheme and the World's Fastest Winemaker, but probably not that interesting as there was little on-track overtaking after half distance. Raikkonen steaming past Glock being the one glorious exception.


Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 3rd
Trulli proved that he is both faster than Glock, and that the Toyota is a knackering beast to drive. The difference between Lewis Hamilton and Trulli after the race was amazing. Lewis sauntered over to reporters with his drinks bottle (you notice how he can't answers questions without it) looking like he'd finished a 10-lap charity karting sprint. Trulli looked like he'd been jammed into a microwave-grill unit for two hours on 215C.

Though he said he was disappointed that Toyota didn't win their first GP, we could have told him that wasn't going to happen from the moment they published the qualifying weights.


Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 4th
Lewis came within a gnat's of a podium when he grabbed P2 momentarily on Lap 1. Had he been able to delay Trulli long enough, then that would have been the Toyota strategy out of the window. It wasn't to be and this time he really did settle for 4th place behind Jarno. As long as he can keep scoring points he stands a chance of a late-season recovery.


Rubens Barrichello, BrawnGP, 5th
Rubens suffered a bout of old-gitism in the middle of the race when he got stuck behind Nelson Piquet Junior. As they were racing for position it seemed hard to know who he was appealing to by constantly taking his hand off the wheel. They weren't going to blue flag Junior and I can't imagine anyone in Flavio Briatore's Renault team asking Nelson to move over because the Brawn GP was on a different strategy. Not even for The Nearly-Retired-one.


A three-stop strategy wasn't the way to go, but he made the best of a bad job by squeaking in front of Raikkonen in the final pit-stop.


Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 6th
Though commentators were keen to say that Raikkonen had saved the Scuderia from their worst season start ever, it's hard to see why. In 1980 Jodi Scheckter scored a 5th place at Long Beach in the fourth race; in 1981 Didier Pironi scored a 5th place at Imola in the fourth race. In what way are those 5th place finishes better than a 6th?


It hardly matters, the fact is that Raikkonen looked good for his result and didn't inherit any places. Had Barrichello stumbled in the tiniest way possible on his final pit-stop it would have been a 5th place. What's more he had the wrong tyres (Grommit) to go mixing it up with Timo Glock on Lap 44, but he still got in front of the Toyota.


What he needs to do is bring a recognisable father figure to the races so that the TV crews can focus on Raikkonen Senior and not Luiz Massa when something happens to him on track.


Fernando Alonso, Renault, 8th
Alonso had a pretty scary start where he stuck two wheels onto the grass to avoid Nico Rosberg running down to Turn 1 and almost lumped his car into the back of Felipe Massa. He pulled a fantastic move to get by Jarno Trulli, but otherwise it was a fairly low-key race. He was only 13 seconds in front of Junior by the line.


Nelson Piquet Junior, Renault, 10th
Junior bought some time at Renault. He was in sight of his team-mate at the finish line and did nothing stupid on track. He also renewed his friendship with Rubens Barrichello, so all in all, a good afternoon's work.


LOSERS



Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 14th
This was more like a 57-lap race simulation than an attempt at points after a first corner sandwich that broke his front wing and an issue with his KERS device. You can't imagine the ongoing KERS saga is going to be fixed any time soon, especially when they're so busy redesigning the diffuser and the floor.


What Felipe needs most, though, is for Kimi Raikkonen to do well. Because if the Finn chucks in the towel at the end of 2009, then he's going to be sitting alongside Fernando Alonso in 2010 when Ferrari will have a Championship Contender again.


And Fernando likes a lot of attention.


Mark Webber, Red Bull, 11th
Despite working his way up to 11th place early in the race, Webber struggled to make up further places. He was desperately unlucky to be stranded at the back of the grid, but it might be God's way of saying - get your killer Qualy 1 lap in early.


Robert Kubica, BMW, 18th
Kubica's driving style is getting him into incidents with a lot of cars. In the three races I've seen him this year he's had contact of some kind with another car. When he overtakes anyone, the carbon fibre vultures gather. As a ratio of overtaking moves made to cars hit, he and Rubens Barrichello must have the highest strike rate in F1. Or just the highest strike rate full stop. Button and Raikkonen are the other end of the scale.




F1 As A Spectator Sport...?
The Crown Prince of Bahrain admitted on camera that his country's race isn't a sporting event. No, it's a branding exercise. The state of Bahrain uses the Grand Prix to promote the country in the world as a brand.

There is no groundswell of popular support for F1 in Bahrain. On Saturday for Qualifying the grandstands had less people than an English Football League Two bottom of the table clash. In Japan or Spain or the UK the grandstand on the start-finish straight would have been almost full for Qualifying.

During the race the main grandstand was half full. It was embarrassing. What's more the landscape the race passes through is a sandy quarry. State of the art? No, state of my ****. And it's the same story in China and in Malaysia where free tickets help boost the numbers.

What Bernie Ecclestone has to understand is the overwhelming majority of F1 fans don't care that the media centre is able to hold 500 accredited journalists, or that the grandstand looks like two wings of a Stormy Petrel (especially when it's equipped to seat 10,000 and 17 turn up). What they want is a circuit where they can instantly distinguish where the cars are, that facilitates overtaking and produces a good race.

As long as Silverstone or Donington or Montreal or even an improved Imola can do that, they should be on the calendar.


BBC Coverage
More underwhelming coverage from the BBC who seem incapable of running GP highlights after the race. When they broadcast a football match, they immediately go back to the pundits in the studio to review the highlights and the controversial incidents.

There's none of this second class treatment; "if you'd like to hear what Alan Hansen thinks about the sending off decision, or see the two goals, or see if Torres was offside, press the red button." No, give it to us straight.

We had a few more Leggardisms to enjoy: "What magic is Ross Brawn weaving on the pitwall...?" I don't know, let's see, has he got his cape on again...?

Plus the hilarious moment when the timing screens reshuffled as they do at the end of each session in Qualifying and Jonathan announced that Button and Barrichello were 14th and 15th in Q1. Martin Brundle's reply was witheringly brief.

Oh, and we missed Mike Gascoyne.

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Postby Maserati » April 27th, 2009, 12:30 am

worksux101 wrote:boring race...bleh...


yea, some adverse weather does make for some exciting racing lol

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Postby MadCrix » April 27th, 2009, 8:10 am

crap i misse dIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i clean forget
:oops: :oops: :( :( :( :(

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Postby 16 cycles » April 27th, 2009, 9:33 am

SBK Assen was one of the most thrilling races I've seen in a long time

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Postby God Bless the Black Top* » April 27th, 2009, 9:37 am

i still enjoyed de race and dem :oops:

i want to drive a toyota...

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Postby MadCrix » April 27th, 2009, 9:40 am

any online location i can watch the race? speed shwoing it over?

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Postby God Bless the Black Top* » April 27th, 2009, 9:46 am

no but speed has an awesome show tonight hosted by tanner foust on exotics...

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