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Postby Alpha_2nr » March 7th, 2010, 2:35 pm

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Damn them....when will I ever get to drive on roads like that?

WASA...... DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 7th, 2010, 3:59 pm

For those who believed pit stops had just about got as fast as they were going to get, this season could be a revelation.

With refuelling now banned and only tyres to worry about in the normal course of events, Williams admitted that sub three-second stops would be commonplace, although even quicker turnarounds were witnessed as teams practiced at the February tests. Several outfits have spent as much as £500,000 on new lightweight equipment.

Red Bull boss Christian Horner told the Mirror that pit stops will in fact dip below two seconds in 2010, with the team's unofficial record currently standing at 1.8 seconds.

"We have done sub-two second stops," he said. "They are absolutely lightning. The guys have trained like hell over the winter. They have all lost weight and got fitter in the process. They have been training in the gym at 12.00 and 4.00pm every day since November.

"We've always been fast but now there's been a lot more of a scientific approach to the whole issue."

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Postby Maserati » March 7th, 2010, 5:17 pm

sub 2 seconds :shock: :shock:

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Postby teems1 » March 7th, 2010, 5:34 pm

flik jed

takes me a few mins at least to find my lugwrench!

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 7th, 2010, 10:02 pm

yuh close yuh eye to wipe yampee and dey done oui

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Postby turbonator » March 8th, 2010, 10:32 pm

JoKeR1980 wrote:Red Bull boss Christian Horner told the Mirror that pit stops will in fact dip below two seconds in 2010, with the team's unofficial record currently standing at 1.8 seconds.


:shock:

Anyways 3 days again:) although I will only get to see the quali and the race like 2 days after it actually take place :x

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Postby teems1 » March 9th, 2010, 11:48 am

yah, 3 more days

this season is gonna be insane.

4 top teams
4 WDC all in competitive cars

I predict lots of inter team feuding, esp at Macca and Ferrari...

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Postby Maserati » March 9th, 2010, 12:17 pm

what do these guys have in common?


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Postby noshownogo » March 9th, 2010, 12:22 pm

pit stops below 2seconds almost seems senseless considering how long it takes to get into pit :|

Factoring that in, the gap between drivers can be much smaller and still allow for an easy pit stop while maintaining position. Could make qualifying even more of a scramble for the front row and position changes less frequent.

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Postby noshownogo » March 9th, 2010, 12:23 pm

Maserati wrote:what do these guys have in common?


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technically all raced for the same team and all world champions

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Postby Maserati » March 10th, 2010, 12:42 pm

A look inside the Bahrain F1 racetrack

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast ... index.html

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 10th, 2010, 1:09 pm

The big rule change for the 2010 is the ban on in-race refuelling. How will that impact the season? In lots and lots of ways. For drivers and teams, a fine-lined balancing act is being demanded...

Extra Quick Pit-Stops
Pit stops will still occur because every driver will have to use both dry-weather tyre compounds during a Grand Prix. However, with refuelling no longer permitted, the stops will be blink-of-the-eye pauses in 2010. The cars are likely to be stationary for just a couple of seconds and so every tenth will count - which is why Ferrari's attention to detail has even focused in on the miniscule matter of testing different types of wheel nuts...

The Weighty Issue Of Fuel Efficiency
Whilst all the teams will have to start with enough fuel to finish the race, that doesn't mean that each car will be carrying the same amount of fuel. The fuel efficiency of each engine will be the determining factor in the actual amount of petrol on board and thus how heavy the car is. And, of course, the heavier a car, the more petrol it requires...

The spectre of that nightmare catch-22 will be causing plenty of sleepless nights ahead of the season and a number of races may be run before the comparative levels of efficiency are revealed. More than most, Ferrari will be anxiously awaiting the reading - they've been dogged all winter by persistent rumours that their engine is a guzzler...

Consistency Over Speed
Identifying the fastest car over a single lap could be the red herring of the season because it's the car that achieves the greatest consistency whilst running light and heavy that will win the day. It's not quite a retelling of the tortoise and the hare but there's a perverse possibility that the fastest car of all will, over the course of an entire grand prix, prove to be one of the slowest. Outpacing the rest of the field by a couple of tenths will count for nothing if a slight superiority in sheer speed is achieved at the expense of competitiveness over long runs. And, of course, there's far more time to be won and lost over long runs than there is over short stints.

But how to strike the right balance? The impossibility of attaining perfection is one of the great fascinations of the 2010 season. Every team will know that a trade-off is required between consistency and pace but who can know what the optimum balance is? On the one hand, the teams will want their cars (and drivers) to be quick and hard on their tyres on Saturday afternoon. Twenty-four hours later, with no set-up changes permitted in between and the top-ten qualifiers denied the luxury of changing their tyres, the demand will be for consistency and tyre preservation. Good luck staying upright on that fine line...

Less Discrepancy From Track To Track
And if it is the case that the teams have prioritised consistency rather than outright pace when building their 2010 chargers, it stands to reason that we'll see less fluctuations in form through the season depending on a circuit's characteristics and relative speed.

Better Safe Than Sorry Driving
For the teams, fuel efficiency will be the season's ongoing concern. For the drivers, it will be tyre management. Those drivers who are gentle on their rubber will reap a considerable benefit towards the end of their stint, whilst those who are hard on their tyres - or, worse still, wreck their rubber with a lock-up or excess - will be sitting ducks.

But even if none of the drivers will be racing at 100% on every lap in order to save their tyres, they will all have the nagging doubt in the back of their mind - and maybe in their ear via the car-to-pit radio - that they are being overly-cautious and losing ground...

Adjusting The Technical Jargon
For 2009's 'double diffuser', read 'an adjustable front wing' in 2010. The device - and its use - will be a critical force in determining the overall pecking order. In non-technical speak, it will be a driver's best friend during races. When the boffins are speaking technically, expect to hear how the device 'trims' a car as its fuel load diminishes and serves to protect the tyres.

The drivers who master the art will gain a substantial advantage over the rest and it was perhaps a telling indication of the difference the device can make that McLaren leapt to the top of the timesheets on the final day of Barcelona testing only after introducing it. "We didn't have an adjustable front wing for most of the winter so it's been quite difficult doing long runs, because the way the cars now work with the high fuel you really are adjusting the front wing a lot," commented Jenson Button. "So having the wing at the last test was great, you're really playing with that a lot as the fuel load comes down - and through the stint you're doing the same. So that is key - the reliability of the wing is important."

Friday Splits
To repeat: every car must use two different tyre compounds during a race. In preparation, teams are likely to split into two on Friday with one driver doing long-run donkeys while the other focuses on setting up the car for a different range of fuel loads. How long, though, before the split is a source of discord and accusations of preferential treatment?

Varied Lap Times
Whilst winter testing only offered a few hints as to the pecking order going into the new season, it did confirm that the difference in lap times between those set at the start of a race and those towards the end of a stint could be as much as five seconds - a lifetime by F1's regular standards.

Slow Opening Laps And Longer GPs
Nor will it only be slow going at the start of races compared to the times set later on in the grand prix. With their tanks full to the brim, the cars will be approximately 100kg heavier than in 2009 and a substantial number of laps will have to be run before the times set match those of yester year. The overall upshot will be longer races.

Strange Strategies Made On The Cuff
To quote the reigning World Champion: "I think the top teams will have similar strategies but I think you're going to have teams trying to stop two or three laps before their rivals for new tyres and maybe bump them. You'll also have the teams that maybe aren't so competitive trying crazy strategies like pitting after lap one and putting on a new set of tyres to run to the end of the race. So there'll be lots of different strategies, which will make it exciting for the viewers. But for us the problem is that it's very difficult to know what the strategy is. You can't plan in advance really - all you can do is go through every scenario and hope that you're ready when you have to jump on a strategy change."

Longer Than Long Runs
Long distance runners will be even truer to their description than before: Previously rarely-seen stints of 40 to 50 laps are expected to become regular forays this season, if not the norm.

More Off-Track Action...
Whilst the onus will be on the drivers to protect and save their tyres, it's inevitable that mistakes will occur - the point, after all, is to race as fast as possible - and tyres will lose their grip long before they are due a change. When that happens, expect to see cars running wide and, sometimes, into the gravel.

And More On-Track Action...
Some cars will be on tired tyres, some cars will have pitted earlier for fresh rubber, some drivers will have saved their tyres, some will have overcooked theirs. Outcome: Plenty of overtaking. Hopefully.

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 10th, 2010, 1:11 pm

oh gad oh gad oh gad

3 days....18 hours....53 mins to go!

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Postby MG Man » March 10th, 2010, 3:38 pm

ah, back to the days of cars running dry on the last lap while in the lead, and zig-zagging left to right to shake the last drop of fuel into the pickup.....altho with these fancy new tank-in-tank setups, that may be futile

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 11th, 2010, 7:06 pm

2 days, 12 hrs, 54 mins...

ah go dedz!

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Postby dmitc » March 11th, 2010, 9:49 pm

7am tomorrow morning is the first practice and speed showing it. I'm contemplating either going to work for 7 and watch the practice till 8 or just leave for work 8 and stay back a lil late. i know the best option is to go to work early but getting up early in the morning is ah byatch :cry:

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 12th, 2010, 10:40 am

New team but same old position for Nico Rosberg as the German set the fastest lap time in Friday's second practice for the Bahrain GP.

The Mercedes GP driver made a name for himself as the King of Practice last season when he dominated many of the race weekend's practice session. Unfortunately, though, he was not able to turn that pace into race wins or podiums.


http://www.planetf1.com/basket/3213/story/6017502/

I was making F1 car sounds while driving to work this morning...kind of sucks when you in traffic though lol...then I tried to talk like MS to myself...that REALLY sucks when you're stuck in traffic :fadein:

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Postby MadCrix » March 12th, 2010, 10:42 am

hahaa lawd
downloading practise now

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Postby MadCrix » March 12th, 2010, 10:44 am

ok the link dead

who have links for the practice?

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 12th, 2010, 4:44 pm

Some instant reactions from the opening practice sessions in Bahrain on Friday. We're not sure how much we learnt, but, hey, we'll take a guess...

McLaren
The talk of the paddock. The controversy surrounding their rear wing 'flap' has not been quelled by the FIA declaring it legal and it would be a major surprise if a protest is not made after the race. With the flap apparently operated by a driver's knee, the issue seemingly boils down to a matter of interpretation and semantics on the rather intriguing question of whether a driver can be deemed a moveable aerodynamic device.

Brawn and Red Bull have already admitted they are now in a race to create their own version of the system, but nobody is comparing its effect to that of the double diffuser in 2009. However, it is estimated to produce an extra five mph along the straights and it will not have gone unnoticed that the McLaren were quickest of all in the first and third sectors of the track - both of which are characterised by long straights.

The end-of-day timesheets found Lewis Hamilton in second place, a couple of tenths ahead of Jenson Button. However, the most dramatic moment of the session was Hamilton's announcement on his pit-to-car radio that his tyres were "destroyed" after just three laps and he had to return to the garage. Button, albeit running a softer compound, reported no such problems and the team described his day as "very good".

Ferrari
Not yet showing their hand but nobody is being fooled: Any team that beats the Ferraris this weekend will either be top of the pile or damn close. Fernando Alonso was second-fastest in the first session of the year, only beaten by the running-on-fumes Force India, and was ominously consistent in the second when running heavy. Still the team to beat? Probably.

Mercedes
Appearances can be deceptive but this looked to be a decent day for Nico Rosberg and a difficult one for Michael Schumacher.

According to one report, he was 'ranting' in his cockpit. According to the BBC, he 'unusually animated' in the Mercedes garage after the first practice - wonder if Andrew Shovalin is missing the laidback Jenson? - and his apparent difficulties didn't end there. McLaren told Button over their radio that both Mercedes were running a similar strategy in the afternoon and if true then Rosberg was definitely the faster and more consistent of the two. Schumi's post-session admission that he "must raise my game" provided the official confirmation.

So much still remains unclear, of course, but it is already clear that the rumours Mercedes would be introducing a 'super diffuser' at Bahrain were erroneous. To quote the BBC's Ted Kravitz, the witness to Schumacher's irritation in the garage, the new package is 'nothing out of the ordinary'.

Red Bull
Having sat out most of the final hour, Mark Webber goes into the weekend on the back foot after completing just 12 laps in the afternoon due to a drive-shaft failure on his car.

The Aussie will have to pour over the data from Seb Vettel's long runs in preparation but F1's Unluckiest Driver will have left the circuit on Friday night with that horrible feeling of Here We Go Again. Vettel's position in the timesheets just behind McLaren and Mercedes suggests that there's nothing particularly wrong with the pace of the Red Bull, but it bodes badly that their familiar foe of reliability has reared its ugly head even before the season has begun...

Renault
Robert Kubica was the surprise name in P3 after the morning session and with Vitaly Petov in seventh for the afternoon there's reason to suspect that the new parts Renault have bolted on for this weekend have reaped a significant dividend. Certainly in comparison to the majority of winter testing, when the team generally finished closer to the back than the front, this was an encouraging day.

Williams
Very solid. Debutant Nico Hulkenberg impressed and Williams are still threatening to emerge as a genuine threat to the 'Big Four'. Still, if you want an idea of how deceptive the first Friday practice of the season can be, then here's a reminder that Williams set a 1-2 twelve months ago in Australia. Jenson Button, who won five of the first six GPs, was a distant sixth.

Force India
And don't be deceived either by Adrian Sutil's position at the top of the timesheets at the end of this Friday's first practice session. He admitted to the Beeb afterwards that his lap was set on fumes. Sutil then finished the second just outside of the top ten, almost two seconds adrift of Rosberg, and if we were to have a bet then we would predict a Qualy Two exit for both Force Indias on Saturday.

Sauber
Still a bit of a mystery. They're thought to be particularly strong on long runs - Bridgestone revealed last week that they had the most consistent tyre degradation at Barcelona and it may be an indication of that consistency that De la Rosa and Kobayashi ended the afternoon session in Bahrain side-by-side in the timesheets - but the wait goes on for an idea of how quick they are in low-fuel trim. Roll on qualifying...

Toro Rosso
The two spins of Jaime Alguersuari - one in each session, with the second almost resulting in a nasty meeting with a barrier - suggest that the Toro Rosso is a bit of a handful. But at least Alguersuari got to find that out for himself. Sebastien Buemi completed just a single installation lap in the afternoon before returning to the pits, not to be seen again.

Lotus
The best that can be said of Lotus' day is that they were the best of the newbies. But in comparison with the rest of the field, there was little/nothing to boast about: Heikki Kovalainen and Jarno Trulli finished 5.4 seconds and 5.5 seconds adrift of P1 respectively. The fact that - as in the morning, when they finished 7.2 seconds and 7.3 seconds adrift - Trulli and Kovalkanien set near identical times also suggests that they wrung out the maximum from the package at their disposal.

It would surely not be unreasonable for the three newbie teams to agree that, if they are allowed to start Sunday's grand prix, they will retire from the race if and when they are lapped by the rest of the field.

Virgin
In the first session, the quickest of the eight laps completed by Timo Glock was seven seconds slower than Sutil's P1 effort while his team-mate Lucas Di Grassi didn't even set a time. In the second session, Glock ran for just three laps while the fastest time set by Di Grassi was almost seven seconds off the front. So uncompetitive they're dangerous.

Hispania Racing
So dangerous they shouldn't be allowed to run. Neither Karun Chandhok nor Bruno Senna ran in the opening session and only Senna made it out in the second. When he did, he never once produced a lap within ten seconds of the frontunners and the on-shot footage from his car suggested it required considerable skill just to keep it on the road.

The team did not complete a single lap in winter testing and unless a miracle is delivered on Saturday then the FIA should be compelled to act on account of safety and the sport's credibility.

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 12th, 2010, 4:45 pm

he's not a happy camper!

Michael Schumacher has admitted he must "raise my game" after a fraught return to the F1 arena.

The German trailed Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg by almost half a second in both of Friday's practice sessions and was reportedly a picture of irritation in the team's garage throughout the day.

The former World Champion made no attempt to disguise his disappointment afterwards, telling the BBC: "I've got to raise my game a bit and I'm sure I'm able to. That [the gap to Rosberg] is a bit too much for my standards."

Those quotes were absent from the end-of-day briefing provided by the Mercedes team, but their release did include Schumacher's admission that he is still 'rusty' after three years out of the sport.

"The car felt much better in the second session although I am still a little rusty on one lap runs and need to get back into the routine," he said. "On the long runs, the car felt good and once you get into the rhythm, it feels very natural. I'm happy with our work today and feeling ready for the weekend."

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Postby Maserati » March 12th, 2010, 5:24 pm

^lol man will be raging if he does sheit in the qualifying

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 12th, 2010, 6:26 pm

same thing I was thinking

the man will leave his car parked on the track again lol

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Postby teems1 » March 12th, 2010, 7:02 pm

the germans like their rules and regulations.

the odd behaviour his previous english and italian teams let him get away with won't be tolerated.

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 13th, 2010, 7:28 am

dat track rell friggin bumpy!

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 13th, 2010, 7:36 am

Alonso tops Q1

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 13th, 2010, 7:59 am

Button and Schumie just squeeze in to Q2

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 13th, 2010, 8:16 am

wow...Vettel takes pole

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Postby JoKeR1980 » March 13th, 2010, 8:17 am

Times
1 S. Vettel Red Bull 1:54.101
2 F. Massa Ferrari 1:54.242
3 F. Alonso Ferrari 1:54.608
4 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:55.217
5 N. Rosberg Mercedes Grand Prix 1:55.241
6 M. Webber Red Bull 1:55.284
7 M. Schumacher Mercedes Grand Prix 1:55.524
8 J. Button McLaren 1:55.672
9 R. Kubica Renault 1:55.885
10 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:56.309
11 R. Barrichello Williams 1:55.330
12 V. Liuzzi Force India F1 1:55.653
13 N. Hulkenberg Williams 1:55.857
14 P. de la Rosa Sauber 1:56.237
15 S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:56.265
16 K. Kobayashi Sauber 1:56.270
17 V. Petrov Renault 1:56.619
18 J. Alguersuari Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:57.071
19 T. Glock Virgin Racing 1:59.728
20 J. Trulli Lotus F1 1:59.852
21 H. Kovalainen Lotus F1 2:00.313
22 L. Di Grassi Virgin Racing 2:00.587
23 B. Senna HRT F1 Team 2:03.240

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Postby Alpha_2nr » March 13th, 2010, 8:28 am

^^EPIC!

Can't remember who said it in this thread, but they were right! Alonso in the Ferrari is gonna be a tough combo.

Vettel......hope he can make an opening race podium.

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