Flow
Flow
TriniTuner.com  |  Latest Event:  

Forums

T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Automotive Non-Technical topics... Just anything car related for the gear head in all of us

Moderator: 3ne2nr Mods

User avatar
Pirate
I LUV THIS PLACE
Posts: 1004
Joined: February 26th, 2008, 2:12 pm
Location: All bout d place...i probably lost!!!

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Pirate » August 21st, 2023, 1:27 pm

Buh men have Nissan B13 and B14 that Appreciate over the years from buying it as a knock down vehicle...so that make it better value.
Also All Nissan vehicles selling very well in Trinidad via the used dealers as well cause it cheap to own, cheap parts, very good resale... :roll:
Man calling Prado and Fortuner and driving 20year old car. If after 20 years it aint paid off then is problems.
:D

User avatar
zando
Trinituner Peong
Posts: 460
Joined: February 11th, 2010, 12:11 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby zando » August 21st, 2023, 6:00 pm

Tezzadude wrote:Rofl, alluh real salty in here. Toyota is #1 for a reason both new and foreign used. Yaris cross and raize selling by the hundreds. The rush all over the place and the rav4 booked out despite all the hate in here. Those fielders and axios them dealers can't even hold in stock for long cause it dissappears quickly. Govt fleet orders including police, regiment and fire does order proper thing from Fortuner to Prado and Hilux. Alluh ever see a regiment or police Subaru? Alluh ever see a Ministry Subaru? The report that was leaked on social media concerning ministers and MPs special tax free vehicles....name 1 Suzuki or Subaru on that list. Let's even throw in Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Isuzu and Mazda etc. Name one embassy or diplomatic person with one of them brands? Worse yet for them Korean brands. Is Toyota all the way people.

My pos car is proper layout. Engine in front and transmission to the back. No fwd thing. She's 20 yrs old but faithful. 1st and only car I have. My full third party insurance is $965. a year, my engine takes super and I have no loans on it. Full title. Wife car is a nze local with original engine and transmission. Her insurance is cheap just like mine, it very good on gas and no loans. Full title. We pos toyotas could fetch 70 and 50 on a bad day. My car was 120 foreign used. After 20 yrs I loss 50k which is more than the first year depreciation on any Suzuki or Subaru.

Froth how much alluh want, deep down you know I making sense. Enjoy alluh 10 year loans what can I say.

Been reading this thread over a year now and if I had to buy a new suv today it would probably be a corolla cross. The wife say she want an suv so I told her sell the nze and put that as the deposit and I'll take care of the insurance. No way I selling my car. I cannot find a suitable replacement for it. I might end up buying a used Hilux, Fortuner or Prado but never no poser vitara or xv or pigeon frontier lol.
I would put up a d-max against your Hilux any day, do you even watch auto reviews? Hiliux is consistently mid pack which means fortuner is mid pack also, only Trinis like you love to drink that yota coolaid.

User avatar
Animal Pak
Sweet on this forum
Posts: 273
Joined: September 13th, 2009, 9:16 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Animal Pak » August 21st, 2023, 6:11 pm

Subaru driver here.

Went camping in the bush in some heavy rainfall. So trail very muddy.

Hilux with off road tyres got stuck halfway up the hill.

Me with my sg forester with road tyres rolled up the hill effortlessly.

Had to unpack all the gears from the hilux and put them in the fozz to the campsite.

Which part about subaru awd is sheet exactly????

User avatar
Shalom Vanamson
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 200
Joined: July 1st, 2012, 5:31 pm
Location: Trinidad

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Shalom Vanamson » August 21st, 2023, 8:56 pm

Tezzadude wrote:Rofl, alluh real salty in here. Toyota is #1 for a reason both new and foreign used. Yaris cross and raize selling by the hundreds. The rush all over the place and the rav4 booked out despite all the hate in here. Those fielders and axios them dealers can't even hold in stock for long cause it dissappears quickly. Govt fleet orders including police, regiment and fire does order proper thing from Fortuner to Prado and Hilux. Alluh ever see a regiment or police Subaru? Alluh ever see a Ministry Subaru? The report that was leaked on social media concerning ministers and MPs special tax free vehicles....name 1 Suzuki or Subaru on that list. Let's even throw in Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Isuzu and Mazda etc. Name one embassy or diplomatic person with one of them brands? Worse yet for them Korean brands. Is Toyota all the way people.

My pos car is proper layout. Engine in front and transmission to the back. No fwd thing. She's 20 yrs old but faithful. 1st and only car I have. My full third party insurance is $965. a year, my engine takes super and I have no loans on it. Full title. Wife car is a nze local with original engine and transmission. Her insurance is cheap just like mine, it very good on gas and no loans. Full title. We pos toyotas could fetch 70 and 50 on a bad day. My car was 120 foreign used. After 20 yrs I loss 50k which is more than the first year depreciation on any Suzuki or Subaru.

Froth how much alluh want, deep down you know I making sense. Enjoy alluh 10 year loans what can I say.

Been reading this thread over a year now and if I had to buy a new suv today it would probably be a corolla cross. The wife say she want an suv so I told her sell the nze and put that as the deposit and I'll take care of the insurance. No way I selling my car. I cannot find a suitable replacement for it. I might end up buying a used Hilux, Fortuner or Prado but never no poser vitara or xv or pigeon frontier lol.


:lol: Bredds we agree Toyota has some reliable models but you acting like is the bess ting since slice bread and frankly that isnt the case. Thinking a bit archaic there.

User avatar
Capleton
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 223
Joined: April 12th, 2017, 11:38 am

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Capleton » August 22nd, 2023, 8:30 am

Animal Pak wrote:Subaru driver here.

Went camping in the bush in some heavy rainfall. So trail very muddy.

Hilux with off road tyres got stuck halfway up the hill.

Me with my sg forester with road tyres rolled up the hill effortlessly.

Had to unpack all the gears from the hilux and put them in the fozz to the campsite.

Which part about subaru awd is sheet exactly????


I also had a SG5 Fozzy, one of the most enjoyable vehicles I ever owned. Sold it when I started making long runs, because who really stays off boost?...lol!

User avatar
metalgear2095
12 pounds of Boost
Posts: 2273
Joined: December 6th, 2004, 1:18 pm
Location: Outside

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby metalgear2095 » August 22nd, 2023, 9:35 am

Tezzadude wrote:Rofl, alluh real salty in here. Toyota is #1 for a reason both new and foreign used. Yaris cross and raize selling by the hundreds. The rush all over the place and the rav4 booked out despite all the hate in here. Those fielders and axios them dealers can't even hold in stock for long cause it dissappears quickly. Govt fleet orders including police, regiment and fire does order proper thing from Fortuner to Prado and Hilux. Alluh ever see a regiment or police Subaru? Alluh ever see a Ministry Subaru? The report that was leaked on social media concerning ministers and MPs special tax free vehicles....name 1 Suzuki or Subaru on that list. Let's even throw in Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Isuzu and Mazda etc. Name one embassy or diplomatic person with one of them brands? Worse yet for them Korean brands. Is Toyota all the way people.

My pos car is proper layout. Engine in front and transmission to the back. No fwd thing. She's 20 yrs old but faithful. 1st and only car I have. My full third party insurance is $965. a year, my engine takes super and I have no loans on it. Full title. Wife car is a nze local with original engine and transmission. Her insurance is cheap just like mine, it very good on gas and no loans. Full title. We pos toyotas could fetch 70 and 50 on a bad day. My car was 120 foreign used. After 20 yrs I loss 50k which is more than the first year depreciation on any Suzuki or Subaru.

Froth how much alluh want, deep down you know I making sense. Enjoy alluh 10 year loans what can I say.

Been reading this thread over a year now and if I had to buy a new suv today it would probably be a corolla cross. The wife say she want an suv so I told her sell the nze and put that as the deposit and I'll take care of the insurance. No way I selling my car. I cannot find a suitable replacement for it. I might end up buying a used Hilux, Fortuner or Prado but never no poser vitara or xv or pigeon frontier lol.
Damn. You must be a millionaire by now with all that money you saved. Thanks for the advice.

Tezzadude
Street 2NR
Posts: 65
Joined: October 15th, 2017, 10:25 pm
Location: Freeport

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Tezzadude » August 22nd, 2023, 1:01 pm

Toyota
Last edited by Tezzadude on April 11th, 2024, 1:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Capleton
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 223
Joined: April 12th, 2017, 11:38 am

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Capleton » August 22nd, 2023, 2:29 pm

Tezzadude wrote:What started this off was a bunch of insecure hens frothing up because I mentioned 10 Toyota SUVs to choose from. So I decided to capitalize on that toyota insecurity and rub certain facts in and it eating some of you all up.

I admit that sometimes I wish for a little change cause all I know is 1 car which was gifted to me in 2004. She is faithful but the gas bill is really high especially when school is back out. But wife say she want a new car and I rather her buy one than me. We can only afford 1 right now and selling an nze will not stir any sentimental emotions lol. I being real ok. But my car on the other hand, I figure if I want new car smell I will take a borrow from wifey every so often but I rather her experience a new ride and I’ll continue with my car for a few more years.

Taking a holistic approach to what the market offers right now, what car can I buy that is better than an altezza? I have friends, co workers and family with the usual bunch of cars we see daily but none is as good as my car. I always wanted a van or proper suv so in time I might as well buy a used Hilux or Fortuner and maybe just keep my car.

I was getting a deal on a bmw 316 for 120 but everyone I asked for advice say to avoid those euros. Leaving a 6 to buy a dead beat 4 cyl is not my thing anyway. See that’s the problem, once you feel the in-line 6 you don’t want anything else and to get that engine today I have to go high end bmw which is not gonna happen for me.


The entire industry is changing and evolving, cars like Altezza's are done and dusted! The sedan on the whole is a dying breed. Once a certain amount of time passes, no matter how good your car runs, parts will become a major issue. Having done the whole tuner/modified car thing years ago, I can tell you it's best to get a cheap/easy to maintain daily driver and keep the zess for special runs! If you really want a proper off -roader, get a Jimny!

adnj
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10415
Joined: February 24th, 2014, 2:55 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby adnj » August 22nd, 2023, 3:08 pm

Tezzadude wrote:What started this off was a bunch of insecure hens frothing up because I mentioned 10 Toyota SUVs to choose from. So I decided to capitalize on that toyota insecurity and rub certain facts in and it eating some of you all up.

I admit that sometimes I wish for a little change cause all I know is 1 car which was gifted to me in 2004. She is faithful but the gas bill is really high especially when school is back out. But wife say she want a new car and I rather her buy one than me. We can only afford 1 right now and selling an nze will not stir any sentimental emotions lol. I being real ok. But my car on the other hand, I figure if I want new car smell I will take a borrow from wifey every so often but I rather her experience a new ride and I’ll continue with my car for a few more years.

Taking a holistic approach to what the market offers right now, what car can I buy that is better than an altezza? I have friends, co workers and family with the usual bunch of cars we see daily but none is as good as my car. I always wanted a van or proper suv so in time I might as well buy a used Hilux or Fortuner and maybe just keep my car.

I was getting a deal on a bmw 316 for 120 but everyone I asked for advice say to avoid those euros. Leaving a 6 to buy a dead beat 4 cyl is not my thing anyway. See that’s the problem, once you feel the in-line 6 you don’t want anything else and to get that engine today I have to go high end bmw which is not gonna happen for me.


There is a very significant step up in quality, features, function, and performance between what is an "average" car or truck sold today when compared to the very best of what was sold twenty-five years ago.

User avatar
A172
Trying to catch PATCH AND VEGA
Posts: 6514
Joined: August 11th, 2008, 3:48 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby A172 » August 22nd, 2023, 7:18 pm

Tezzadude wrote:What started this off was a bunch of insecure hens frothing up because I mentioned 10 Toyota SUVs to choose from. So I decided to capitalize on that toyota insecurity and rub certain facts in and it eating some of you all up.

I admit that sometimes I wish for a little change cause all I know is 1 car which was gifted to me in 2004. She is faithful but the gas bill is really high especially when school is back out. But wife say she want a new car and I rather her buy one than me. We can only afford 1 right now and selling an nze will not stir any sentimental emotions lol. I being real ok. But my car on the other hand, I figure if I want new car smell I will take a borrow from wifey every so often but I rather her experience a new ride and I’ll continue with my car for a few more years.

Taking a holistic approach to what the market offers right now, what car can I buy that is better than an altezza? I have friends, co workers and family with the usual bunch of cars we see daily but none is as good as my car. I always wanted a van or proper suv so in time I might as well buy a used Hilux or Fortuner and maybe just keep my car.

I was getting a deal on a bmw 316 for 120 but everyone I asked for advice say to avoid those euros. Leaving a 6 to buy a dead beat 4 cyl is not my thing anyway. See that’s the problem, once you feel the in-line 6 you don’t want anything else and to get that engine today I have to go high end bmw which is not gonna happen for me.
just say u too poor to afford a new, actual sportscar nah

User avatar
zando
Trinituner Peong
Posts: 460
Joined: February 11th, 2010, 12:11 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby zando » August 22nd, 2023, 10:19 pm

Tezzadude wrote:What started this off was a bunch of insecure hens frothing up because I mentioned 10 Toyota SUVs to choose from. So I decided to capitalize on that toyota insecurity and rub certain facts in and it eating some of you all up.

I admit that sometimes I wish for a little change cause all I know is 1 car which was gifted to me in 2004. She is faithful but the gas bill is really high especially when school is back out. But wife say she want a new car and I rather her buy one than me. We can only afford 1 right now and selling an nze will not stir any sentimental emotions lol. I being real ok. But my car on the other hand, I figure if I want new car smell I will take a borrow from wifey every so often but I rather her experience a new ride and I’ll continue with my car for a few more years.

Taking a holistic approach to what the market offers right now, what car can I buy that is better than an altezza? I have friends, co workers and family with the usual bunch of cars we see daily but none is as good as my car. I always wanted a van or proper suv so in time I might as well buy a used Hilux or Fortuner and maybe just keep my car.

I was getting a deal on a bmw 316 for 120 but everyone I asked for advice say to avoid those euros. Leaving a 6 to buy a dead beat 4 cyl is not my thing anyway. See that’s the problem, once you feel the in-line 6 you don’t want anything else and to get that engine today I have to go high end bmw which is not gonna happen for me.
What ' facts ' you talking about? All of what you said is your opinion, not facts, #yotacoolaid

kamakazi
punchin NOS
Posts: 2931
Joined: February 14th, 2009, 10:32 am

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby kamakazi » August 22nd, 2023, 11:04 pm

adnj wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:What started this off was a bunch of insecure hens frothing up because I mentioned 10 Toyota SUVs to choose from. So I decided to capitalize on that toyota insecurity and rub certain facts in and it eating some of you all up.

I admit that sometimes I wish for a little change cause all I know is 1 car which was gifted to me in 2004. She is faithful but the gas bill is really high especially when school is back out. But wife say she want a new car and I rather her buy one than me. We can only afford 1 right now and selling an nze will not stir any sentimental emotions lol. I being real ok. But my car on the other hand, I figure if I want new car smell I will take a borrow from wifey every so often but I rather her experience a new ride and I’ll continue with my car for a few more years.

Taking a holistic approach to what the market offers right now, what car can I buy that is better than an altezza? I have friends, co workers and family with the usual bunch of cars we see daily but none is as good as my car. I always wanted a van or proper suv so in time I might as well buy a used Hilux or Fortuner and maybe just keep my car.

I was getting a deal on a bmw 316 for 120 but everyone I asked for advice say to avoid those euros. Leaving a 6 to buy a dead beat 4 cyl is not my thing anyway. See that’s the problem, once you feel the in-line 6 you don’t want anything else and to get that engine today I have to go high end bmw which is not gonna happen for me.


There is a very significant step up in quality, features, function, and performance between what is an "average" car or truck sold today when compared to the very best of what was sold twenty-five years ago.


That statement is broad
No to that significant step...not in quality, and definitely not in engine performance (within the parameters mentioned)

So let's compare:
OldCorolla E100-E110 series (The best of an average 25yr old car; Can't get more average than a Japanese sedan in T and T)
Engine: 4A-GE 1.6l, 160hp,162Nm

New Corolla
Engine: 1ZR-FE 1.6l,122hp 153Nm(not sure what comes in the new corolla so I'm using this one)



Old Nissan Sentra: SR16(unicorn engine)/SR20
Old Mitsubishi Lancer: 6A11, 4G93T
Old civic: B16B, B18C
All overengineered pieces from 25yrs ago...Not going to find that in today's engines in your average car.

My old 25-year-old engine will have a metal intake manifold, and metal cam cover instead of those plastic bits, which in some instances requires the entire thing to be replaced just to fix leaky seals.

(The L15T in the modern civic is a structurally weak engine; Honda put a turbo on a weak engine and you essentially have a time bomb if you push it)

Today, Restrictive emissions and the finance department ensure that your average vehicle will just make it past the warranty before it starts calling for major parts.




To the individual who mentioned parts availability for old cars...that definitely depends on how much people love the chassis and the drivetrain. Take the econobox Honda Civic EK/EG chassis and drivetrain as an example...manufacturer stopped producing most parts a while ago, but the aftermarket still makes almost everything for that car, and still engineering ways to extend the life of the chassis by allowing you to upgrade the engine or easily put in a different engine and drivetrain.

Tezzadude
Street 2NR
Posts: 65
Joined: October 15th, 2017, 10:25 pm
Location: Freeport

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Tezzadude » August 23rd, 2023, 12:00 am

A172 wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:What started this off was a bunch of insecure hens frothing up because I mentioned 10 Toyota SUVs to choose from. So I decided to capitalize on that toyota insecurity and rub certain facts in and it eating some of you all up.

I admit that sometimes I wish for a little change cause all I know is 1 car which was gifted to me in 2004. She is faithful but the gas bill is really high especially when school is back out. But wife say she want a new car and I rather her buy one than me. We can only afford 1 right now and selling an nze will not stir any sentimental emotions lol. I being real ok. But my car on the other hand, I figure if I want new car smell I will take a borrow from wifey every so often but I rather her experience a new ride and I’ll continue with my car for a few more years.

Taking a holistic approach to what the market offers right now, what car can I buy that is better than an altezza? I have friends, co workers and family with the usual bunch of cars we see daily but none is as good as my car. I always wanted a van or proper suv so in time I might as well buy a used Hilux or Fortuner and maybe just keep my car.

I was getting a deal on a bmw 316 for 120 but everyone I asked for advice say to avoid those euros. Leaving a 6 to buy a dead beat 4 cyl is not my thing anyway. See that’s the problem, once you feel the in-line 6 you don’t want anything else and to get that engine today I have to go high end bmw which is not gonna happen for me.
just say u too poor to afford a new, actual sportscar nah


U r right. Mint examples of the AE86 and A80 values went up. Might have to remortgage property to get either of those.

Tezzadude
Street 2NR
Posts: 65
Joined: October 15th, 2017, 10:25 pm
Location: Freeport

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Tezzadude » August 23rd, 2023, 12:18 am

Toyota
Last edited by Tezzadude on April 11th, 2024, 1:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

adnj
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10415
Joined: February 24th, 2014, 2:55 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby adnj » August 23rd, 2023, 7:27 am

kamakazi wrote:
adnj wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:What started this off was a bunch of insecure hens frothing up because I mentioned 10 Toyota SUVs to choose from. So I decided to capitalize on that toyota insecurity and rub certain facts in and it eating some of you all up.

I admit that sometimes I wish for a little change cause all I know is 1 car which was gifted to me in 2004. She is faithful but the gas bill is really high especially when school is back out. But wife say she want a new car and I rather her buy one than me. We can only afford 1 right now and selling an nze will not stir any sentimental emotions lol. I being real ok. But my car on the other hand, I figure if I want new car smell I will take a borrow from wifey every so often but I rather her experience a new ride and I’ll continue with my car for a few more years.

Taking a holistic approach to what the market offers right now, what car can I buy that is better than an altezza? I have friends, co workers and family with the usual bunch of cars we see daily but none is as good as my car. I always wanted a van or proper suv so in time I might as well buy a used Hilux or Fortuner and maybe just keep my car.

I was getting a deal on a bmw 316 for 120 but everyone I asked for advice say to avoid those euros. Leaving a 6 to buy a dead beat 4 cyl is not my thing anyway. See that’s the problem, once you feel the in-line 6 you don’t want anything else and to get that engine today I have to go high end bmw which is not gonna happen for me.


There is a very significant step up in quality, features, function, and performance between what is an "average" car or truck sold today when compared to the very best of what was sold twenty-five years ago.


That statement is broad
No to that significant step...not in quality, and definitely not in engine performance (within the parameters mentioned)

So let's compare:
OldCorolla E100-E110 series (The best of an average 25yr old car; Can't get more average than a Japanese sedan in T and T)
Engine: 4A-GE 1.6l, 160hp,162Nm

New Corolla
Engine: 1ZR-FE 1.6l,122hp 153Nm(not sure what comes in the new corolla so I'm using this one)



Old Nissan Sentra: SR16(unicorn engine)/SR20
Old Mitsubishi Lancer: 6A11, 4G93T
Old civic: B16B, B18C
All overengineered pieces from 25yrs ago...Not going to find that in today's engines in your average car.

My old 25-year-old engine will have a metal intake manifold, and metal cam cover instead of those plastic bits, which in some instances requires the entire thing to be replaced just to fix leaky seals.

(The L15T in the modern civic is a structurally weak engine; Honda put a turbo on a weak engine and you essentially have a time bomb if you push it)

Today, Restrictive emissions and the finance department ensure that your average vehicle will just make it past the warranty before it starts calling for major parts.




To the individual who mentioned parts availability for old cars...that definitely depends on how much people love the chassis and the drivetrain. Take the econobox Honda Civic EK/EG chassis and drivetrain as an example...manufacturer stopped producing most parts a while ago, but the aftermarket still makes almost everything for that car, and still engineering ways to extend the life of the chassis by allowing you to upgrade the engine or easily put in a different engine and drivetrain.
If cost and local parts availability are what's most important to you, go with what you can afford.

Personally, if I were trying to keep a 1.6L Toyota in my driveway, I would rather pay for a new GR Corolla.

User avatar
A172
Trying to catch PATCH AND VEGA
Posts: 6514
Joined: August 11th, 2008, 3:48 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby A172 » August 23rd, 2023, 8:16 am

imagine jumping in that 20yo interior every day

yuck

Tezzadude
Street 2NR
Posts: 65
Joined: October 15th, 2017, 10:25 pm
Location: Freeport

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Tezzadude » August 23rd, 2023, 8:44 am

A172 wrote:imagine jumping in that 20yo interior every day

yuck
Could be worse like looking in a mirror everyday and seeing a face like yours.

User avatar
Shalom Vanamson
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 200
Joined: July 1st, 2012, 5:31 pm
Location: Trinidad

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Shalom Vanamson » August 23rd, 2023, 8:50 am

Tezzadude wrote:Modern Toyota want nothing with older Toyota and even modern Toyota is mostly superior to its competitors.

When it comes to the Supra MK4 A80, Altezza, Aristo and Crown S170, that was an era that would never come back. An Altezza is basically a 4-door Supra. Don’t believe me? Watch underneath the car hoisted on a lift. Stock diffs can handle 500hp easily. 2JZ turbos can put out 1000whp and put down 10s passes. What Corolla doing that? Owners of them cars mentioned would find it hard to “upgrade” because a front wheel drive Raize or Yaris Cross is not exactly something to be proud about. People sinking themselves in unnecessary debt to rock the latest plates but all in all they buying rubbish. Korean, yankee and euro owners does have to learn it the hard way. Where can I find a new japanese rear wheel based car or suv with an in-line 6 to buy? Even Toyota exited that market.


Are you aware that the Mazda CX60 and CX90 are NEW RWD based suvs with inline 6s or are those not comparable to your GOOD OLE TOYOTA :lol:

Image

Image

User avatar
Dave
3NE 2NR Moderator
Posts: 18408
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 8:07 am
Location: playing with above and below
Contact:

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Dave » August 23rd, 2023, 9:09 am

Ok guys keep it relevant to the topic

User avatar
drchaos
punchin NOS
Posts: 4372
Joined: February 5th, 2013, 3:56 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby drchaos » August 23rd, 2023, 10:29 am

Tezzadude wrote:Rofl, alluh real salty in here. Toyota is #1 for a reason both new and foreign used. Yaris cross and raize selling by the hundreds. The rush all over the place and the rav4 booked out despite all the hate in here. Those fielders and axios them dealers can't even hold in stock for long cause it dissappears quickly. Govt fleet orders including police, regiment and fire does order proper thing from Fortuner to Prado and Hilux. Alluh ever see a regiment or police Subaru? Alluh ever see a Ministry Subaru? The report that was leaked on social media concerning ministers and MPs special tax free vehicles....name 1 Suzuki or Subaru on that list. Let's even throw in Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Isuzu and Mazda etc. Name one embassy or diplomatic person with one of them brands? Worse yet for them Korean brands. Is Toyota all the way people.

My pos car is proper layout. Engine in front and transmission to the back. No fwd thing. She's 20 yrs old but faithful. 1st and only car I have. My full third party insurance is $965. a year, my engine takes super and I have no loans on it. Full title. Wife car is a nze local with original engine and transmission. Her insurance is cheap just like mine, it very good on gas and no loans. Full title. We pos toyotas could fetch 70 and 50 on a bad day. My car was 120 foreign used. After 20 yrs I loss 50k which is more than the first year depreciation on any Suzuki or Subaru.

Froth how much alluh want, deep down you know I making sense. Enjoy alluh 10 year loans what can I say.

Been reading this thread over a year now and if I had to buy a new suv today it would probably be a corolla cross. The wife say she want an suv so I told her sell the nze and put that as the deposit and I'll take care of the insurance. No way I selling my car. I cannot find a suitable replacement for it. I might end up buying a used Hilux, Fortuner or Prado but never no poser vitara or xv or pigeon frontier lol.


Your point of Government using toyota holds no water ...
Government chooses vehicles on the simple notion of where they get the most kick backs.

toyota as a company has been know to and have been busted for bribing 3rd world gov into big contracts with their vehicles.

Is toyota Reliable yes ... But thats about it. They suck in every other single metric.
If I needed a shitbox to get me from point A to B and thats it, i would buy toyota.

But i enjoying driving and being in a well equiped car that has capabilities beyond just reliability.

Tezzadude
Street 2NR
Posts: 65
Joined: October 15th, 2017, 10:25 pm
Location: Freeport

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Tezzadude » August 23rd, 2023, 12:46 pm

That will never reach here
Last edited by Tezzadude on April 11th, 2024, 1:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Tezzadude
Street 2NR
Posts: 65
Joined: October 15th, 2017, 10:25 pm
Location: Freeport

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Tezzadude » August 23rd, 2023, 12:55 pm

drchaos wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:Rofl, alluh real salty in here. Toyota is #1 for a reason both new and foreign used. Yaris cross and raize selling by the hundreds. The rush all over the place and the rav4 booked out despite all the hate in here. Those fielders and axios them dealers can't even hold in stock for long cause it dissappears quickly. Govt fleet orders including police, regiment and fire does order proper thing from Fortuner to Prado and Hilux. Alluh ever see a regiment or police Subaru? Alluh ever see a Ministry Subaru? The report that was leaked on social media concerning ministers and MPs special tax free vehicles....name 1 Suzuki or Subaru on that list. Let's even throw in Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Isuzu and Mazda etc. Name one embassy or diplomatic person with one of them brands? Worse yet for them Korean brands. Is Toyota all the way people.

My pos car is proper layout. Engine in front and transmission to the back. No fwd thing. She's 20 yrs old but faithful. 1st and only car I have. My full third party insurance is $965. a year, my engine takes super and I have no loans on it. Full title. Wife car is a nze local with original engine and transmission. Her insurance is cheap just like mine, it very good on gas and no loans. Full title. We pos toyotas could fetch 70 and 50 on a bad day. My car was 120 foreign used. After 20 yrs I loss 50k which is more than the first year depreciation on any Suzuki or Subaru.

Froth how much alluh want, deep down you know I making sense. Enjoy alluh 10 year loans what can I say.

Been reading this thread over a year now and if I had to buy a new suv today it would probably be a corolla cross. The wife say she want an suv so I told her sell the nze and put that as the deposit and I'll take care of the insurance. No way I selling my car. I cannot find a suitable replacement for it. I might end up buying a used Hilux, Fortuner or Prado but never no poser vitara or xv or pigeon frontier lol.


Your point of Government using toyota holds no water ...
Government chooses vehicles on the simple notion of where they get the most kick backs.

toyota as a company has been know to and have been busted for bribing 3rd world gov into big contracts with their vehicles.

Is toyota Reliable yes ... But thats about it. They suck in every other single metric.
If I needed a shitbox to get me from point A to B and thats it, i would buy toyota.

But i enjoying driving and being in a well equiped car that has capabilities beyond just reliability.
Govt order vehicles on strict criteria which is then documented and shared to all dealers in the bid documents. All dealers have a chance to bid on tenders. Some of them reach a stage where if govt want a certain kind of vehicle them just doh bother. What other dealer can sell a proper suv like a Fortuner or Prado? Fella, you don't know what you talking about. Toyota should sue you for inciting that them colluding with the govt with kickbacks what have you. In the middle eastern deserts, is only Toyota 4x4 you seeing. Btw, I never saw a lifted Subaru in any 4x4 off road video in TT. I guess them bias towards Toyota too right?

User avatar
Capleton
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 223
Joined: April 12th, 2017, 11:38 am

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Capleton » August 23rd, 2023, 1:07 pm

Tezzadude wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:Rofl, alluh real salty in here. Toyota is #1 for a reason both new and foreign used. Yaris cross and raize selling by the hundreds. The rush all over the place and the rav4 booked out despite all the hate in here. Those fielders and axios them dealers can't even hold in stock for long cause it dissappears quickly. Govt fleet orders including police, regiment and fire does order proper thing from Fortuner to Prado and Hilux. Alluh ever see a regiment or police Subaru? Alluh ever see a Ministry Subaru? The report that was leaked on social media concerning ministers and MPs special tax free vehicles....name 1 Suzuki or Subaru on that list. Let's even throw in Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Isuzu and Mazda etc. Name one embassy or diplomatic person with one of them brands? Worse yet for them Korean brands. Is Toyota all the way people.

My pos car is proper layout. Engine in front and transmission to the back. No fwd thing. She's 20 yrs old but faithful. 1st and only car I have. My full third party insurance is $965. a year, my engine takes super and I have no loans on it. Full title. Wife car is a nze local with original engine and transmission. Her insurance is cheap just like mine, it very good on gas and no loans. Full title. We pos toyotas could fetch 70 and 50 on a bad day. My car was 120 foreign used. After 20 yrs I loss 50k which is more than the first year depreciation on any Suzuki or Subaru.

Froth how much alluh want, deep down you know I making sense. Enjoy alluh 10 year loans what can I say.

Been reading this thread over a year now and if I had to buy a new suv today it would probably be a corolla cross. The wife say she want an suv so I told her sell the nze and put that as the deposit and I'll take care of the insurance. No way I selling my car. I cannot find a suitable replacement for it. I might end up buying a used Hilux, Fortuner or Prado but never no poser vitara or xv or pigeon frontier lol.


Your point of Government using toyota holds no water ...
Government chooses vehicles on the simple notion of where they get the most kick backs.

toyota as a company has been know to and have been busted for bribing 3rd world gov into big contracts with their vehicles.

Is toyota Reliable yes ... But thats about it. They suck in every other single metric.
If I needed a shitbox to get me from point A to B and thats it, i would buy toyota.

But i enjoying driving and being in a well equiped car that has capabilities beyond just reliability.
Govt order vehicles on strict criteria which is then documented and shared to all dealers in the bid documents. All dealers have a chance to bid on tenders. Some of them reach a stage where if govt want a certain kind of vehicle them just doh bother. What other dealer can sell a proper suv like a Fortuner or Prado? Fella, you don't know what you talking about. Toyota should sue you for inciting that them colluding with the govt with kickbacks what have you. In the middle eastern deserts, is only Toyota 4x4 you seeing. Btw, I never saw a lifted Subaru in any 4x4 off road video in TT. I guess them bias towards Toyota too right?


LSM has supplied quite a few Grand Vitara's and Chevy Trailblazers to the TTPS among other vehicles.

adnj
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10415
Joined: February 24th, 2014, 2:55 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby adnj » August 23rd, 2023, 1:13 pm

In countries where resale data actually exists, hybrids and electrics have excellent resale value. In Australia, the Leaf holds its value better than any other car or truck, and some Mazda SUVs and pick-ups hold their value better than the Prado or Corolla, respectively.

Resale is a consequence of the the used car market. Resource constrained buyers that cannot secure financing must then buy cash. Those same buyers that have no way to pay for for parts when ordered online, can only afford locally available parts.

Trinidad and Tobago is a small market where few have much cash for buying cars and trucks. Some people have no choice but to stick to their old cars with second-hand parts available.

Tezzadude
Street 2NR
Posts: 65
Joined: October 15th, 2017, 10:25 pm
Location: Freeport

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Tezzadude » August 23rd, 2023, 5:40 pm

My FIL has 2 Suzuki Grand Vitaras. He looking to sell the older one especially learning about the newer one lifestyle now launched. He went and check it and came back disappointed. The new grand vitara is NOT a proper suv as it is front wheel drive. So don’t expect police to get those as replacements unless the bid specifications changed. The Chevy trailblazer I not familiar with so I not sure what that is but Chevy buss locally so police not going to buy that garbage. The only dealer that sells proper SUVs locally is Toyota.

User avatar
Capleton
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 223
Joined: April 12th, 2017, 11:38 am

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Capleton » August 24th, 2023, 9:14 am

Tezzadude wrote:My FIL has 2 Suzuki Grand Vitaras. He looking to sell the older one especially learning about the newer one lifestyle now launched. He went and check it and came back disappointed. The new grand vitara is NOT a proper suv as it is front wheel drive. So don’t expect police to get those as replacements unless the bid specifications changed. The Chevy trailblazer I not familiar with so I not sure what that is but Chevy buss locally so police not going to buy that garbage. The only dealer that sells proper SUVs locally is Toyota.


The new Grand Vitara also comes AWD. A lot of SUV's also have a 2WD options, that is only common sense. Chevy did not buss locally, General Motors, basically stopped production for RHD markets globally. Ever heard of a Jeep Wrangler or a SsangYong Rexton? You need to educate yourself bro.

User avatar
Capleton
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 223
Joined: April 12th, 2017, 11:38 am

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Capleton » August 24th, 2023, 9:27 am

Capleton wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:My FIL has 2 Suzuki Grand Vitaras. He looking to sell the older one especially learning about the newer one lifestyle now launched. He went and check it and came back disappointed. The new grand vitara is NOT a proper suv as it is front wheel drive. So don’t expect police to get those as replacements unless the bid specifications changed. The Chevy trailblazer I not familiar with so I not sure what that is but Chevy buss locally so police not going to buy that garbage. The only dealer that sells proper SUVs locally is Toyota.


The new Grand Vitara also comes AWD. A lot of SUV's also have a 2WD options, that is only common sense. Chevy did not buss locally, General Motors, basically stopped production for RHD markets globally. Ever heard of a Jeep Wrangler or a SsangYong Rexton? You need to educate yourself bro, can't be talking nonsense and don't even know what a Trailblazer is much less the diff between AWD and 4WD

adnj
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10415
Joined: February 24th, 2014, 2:55 pm

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby adnj » August 24th, 2023, 9:29 am

Capleton wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:My FIL has 2 Suzuki Grand Vitaras. He looking to sell the older one especially learning about the newer one lifestyle now launched. He went and check it and came back disappointed. The new grand vitara is NOT a proper suv as it is front wheel drive. So don’t expect police to get those as replacements unless the bid specifications changed. The Chevy trailblazer I not familiar with so I not sure what that is but Chevy buss locally so police not going to buy that garbage. The only dealer that sells proper SUVs locally is Toyota.


The new Grand Vitara also comes AWD. A lot of SUV's also have a 2WD options, that is only common sense. Chevy did not buss locally, General Motors, basically stopped production for RHD markets globally. Ever heard of a Jeep Wrangler or a SsangYong Rexton? You need to educate yourself bro.


GM shifted focus to higher profit markets, specifically police and military contracts.

Image


Tezzadude
Street 2NR
Posts: 65
Joined: October 15th, 2017, 10:25 pm
Location: Freeport

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Tezzadude » August 24th, 2023, 9:34 am

Lol u feeling proud about that Wrangler guy but wtf is a rexton? *2 mins ltr* Now Google it, rectum is a more appropriate name.

User avatar
Shalom Vanamson
3NE 2NR for life
Posts: 200
Joined: July 1st, 2012, 5:31 pm
Location: Trinidad

Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Shalom Vanamson » August 24th, 2023, 9:48 am

Tezzadude wrote:
Shalom Vanamson wrote:
Tezzadude wrote:Modern Toyota want nothing with older Toyota and even modern Toyota is mostly superior to its competitors.

When it comes to the Supra MK4 A80, Altezza, Aristo and Crown S170, that was an era that would never come back. An Altezza is basically a 4-door Supra. Don’t believe me? Watch underneath the car hoisted on a lift. Stock diffs can handle 500hp easily. 2JZ turbos can put out 1000whp and put down 10s passes. What Corolla doing that? Owners of them cars mentioned would find it hard to “upgrade” because a front wheel drive Raize or Yaris Cross is not exactly something to be proud about. People sinking themselves in unnecessary debt to rock the latest plates but all in all they buying rubbish. Korean, yankee and euro owners does have to learn it the hard way. Where can I find a new japanese rear wheel based car or suv with an in-line 6 to buy? Even Toyota exited that market.


Are you aware that the Mazda CX60 and CX90 are NEW RWD based suvs with inline 6s or are those not comparable to your GOOD OLE TOYOTA

Image

Image
Rofl. Mazda? You don't see much of those on the roads. The only good Mazda is the miata and the cx90 is hybrid so it done have poor resale which is further exacerbated with a hybrid system. No thanks.


Those models are not available in our market to begin with. The CX90 is also available without a hybrid system and that statement of having poorer resale value because of a hybrid system is crazy to say the least. At this point it seems like you are looking for reasons (excuses) to support your comical bias for Toyota :lol:

Advertisement

Return to “The Car Park”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests