T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[sweeks]

a G20 is much better than an F30 in every possible way, I don't think you would be disappointed, just get it in the highest m sport trim

Heard the new 3 series comes fwd? How's the driving dynamics?

[A172]

g20 is rwd

[agent007]

Thank God the 3 series remained as rwd. Currently, the 1 series, 2 series and X1 are all fwd.

A172, I understand the new g20 does not have the 1.5 3 cylinder option anymore. Strictly 2L turbo 4 now so I’ll no longer cringe at a 318i badge anymore.

[A172]

it came out with the 330i & 320d as the only 2 options at first

then about 9 months later the 320i, so this would now be cheaper than the 330i currently

more than likely there will be a small engine model by end of this yr, the ANSA rep said same last yr

[agent007]

So chances are the g20 in the background (pic below) is probably a 320 judging from the rotor size?

[scotty_buttons]

a G20 is much better than an F30 in every possible way, I don't think you would be disappointed, just get it in the highest m sport trim

Heard the new 3 series comes fwd? How's the driving dynamics?

Nah that’s the 1 series 2 series gran coupe

[scotty_buttons]

So chances are the g20 in the background (pic below) is probably a 320 judging from the rotor size?

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Not necessarily.

The bigger M sport rotors and 4 piston calipers have to spec’d as an option. Buying an M sport vehicle doesn’t guarantee M sport brakes.
It was an additional extra for the F30 M sport as well.

This is most likely the standard brakes on all models that’s you’re seeing here.

[A172]

yh blue brakes is just an option regardless of model

the blue 330i for $635k ansa had hide away last yr had the blue brakes

[agent007]

Interesting, thanks for the info guys.

[supercharged turbo]

Agent,what is your opinion on Isuzu as a brand in Trinidad?I've always seen their vehicles going for "less than nothing" or "small money" even for relatively new vehicles.The ones I had experience with before were noisy but they were reliable and an effective workhorse.Is it that parts are expensive or hard to find?

[agent007]

Isuzu is actually a very formidable brand in the commercial and fleet sphere locally. Many companies prefer Isuzu trucks and pickups due to descent entry pricing. I would never recommend Great Wall, FAW, JAC and DFM as IMO they're disposable.

Isuzu trucks real competition locally is Fuso, Hino, UD and Hyundai to some extent. If you have a business and you want a reputable van, then the DMAX is a no frills option ready to give you a ROI on your capital investment.

The only draw backs for Isuzu is, it may not be seen as a luxury or mainstream or people mover brand and I suspect, many would be afraid to commit to SS and their lack of after sale support.

If I were in the market for fleet trucks, definitely it's down to Fuso or Isuzu. Lastly, Isuzu also builds diesel engines for manufacturing and other industrial applications.

[kamakazi]

And are also going to be the new platform for the bt50.

[Kronik]

Isuzu is actually a very formidable brand in the commercial and fleet sphere locally. Many companies prefer Isuzu trucks and pickups due to descent entry pricing. I would never recommend Great Wall, FAW, JAC and DFM as IMO they're disposable.

Isuzu trucks real competition locally is Fuso, Hino, UD and Hyundai to some extent. If you have a business and you want a reputable van, then the DMAX is a no frills option ready to give you a ROI on your capital investment.

The only draw backs for Isuzu is, it may not be seen as a luxury or mainstream or people mover brand and I suspect, many would be afraid to commit to SS and their lack of after sale support.

If I were in the market for fleet trucks, definitely it's down to Fuso or Isuzu. Lastly, Isuzu also builds diesel engines for manufacturing and other industrial applications.

As you talking Isuzu, what do you think about the NHR vs the K2700 vs the H100?

I prefer the K2700 over the H100, but then I saw the NHR, and well I trust Isuzu reliability over Kia

[agent007]

For me the NHR wins over the K2700 and H100 because it has a slightly better payload capacity, a 2.8 engine and is $155k. The Kia is a 2.7 at $154k and the H100 is a 2.6 at $145k (Providing these prices are current).

The reputation of the NHR and resale attached to it vs the 2 korean cousins alone is what wins for me. Also, no commercial korean diesel engine could come close to diesel expert isuzu.

[Kronik]

For me the NHR wins over the K2700 and H100 because it has a slightly better payload capacity, a 2.8 engine and is $155k. The Kia is a 2.7 at $154k and the H100 is a 2.6 at $145k (Providing these prices are current).

The reputation of the NHR and resale attached to it vs the 2 korean cousins alone is what wins for me. Also, no commercial korean diesel engine could come close to diesel expert isuzu.

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If it's one think I have known from long time, is that Isuzu diesel may be a bit loud, but they are workhorses, even though the h100 is about 10k cheaper, in the long run I feel safer with the Isuzu.
Was looking to buy a used van k2700 preferably, but only saw a couple value for money deals, and not seeing that NHR selling used at all, which usually indicates when ppl buy them, they are actually good and ppl not interested in selling them. I have seen h100 and k2700 a few months old selling, but not the NHR, I may just go new and done, at least I know if I looking to sell later I'll still have something with value

[j.o.e]

That NHR price is with a tray or bare chassis after cab ? Might be a dumb question, never purchased a commercial type vehicle but may soon

[Kronik]

That NHR price is with a tray or bare chassis after cab ? Might be a dumb question, never purchased a commercial type vehicle but may soon

The advertised prices I have seen is the van with a tray pictured.

I saw the bigger ones selling with bare chassis in the back and with a tray, with separate prices

The only issue is I asked a sales rep for Kia about, cuz I can't find any Isuzu reps online, is that it does not come with factory AC, not sure how correct that is, but it's about 10-12k to install AC in it if it does not come with it.

[zando]

Anyone see the new d-max?

[zando]

Also the new Tucson

[agent007]

Starting this year into next year, it's the all new:
Qashqai
Xtrail
Pathfinder
Outlander
Tucson
Sorento
Sportage
Optima
DMax
MUX
BT-50

Some recent releases yet to make it into T&T are:
Versa
Sentra
Altima
Juke
L200 Sportero
CX-30
CX-9
Legacy
Outback
Fiesta
Focus
Escape
i30
Veloster
Sonata


Coming soon:
Subaru Impreza
Audi Q3
Jaguar I-Pace

[scotty_buttons]

Starting this year into next year, it's the all new:
Qashqai
Xtrail
Pathfinder
Outlander
Tucson
Sorento
Sportage
Optima
DMax
MUX
BT-50

Some recent releases yet to make it into T&T are:
Versa
Sentra
Altima
Juke
L200 Sportero
CX-30
CX-9
Legacy
Outback
Fiesta
Focus
Escape
i30
Veloster
Sonata


Coming soon:
Subaru Impreza
Audi Q3
Jaguar I-Pace

I pace you say. An electric jaguar SUV.
Wonder when ppl gonna start building charging stations?

[zando]

Sony know for sure that the Impreza is coming?

Starting this year into next year, it's the all new:
Qashqai
Xtrail
Pathfinder
Outlander
Tucson
Sorento
Sportage
Optima
DMax
MUX
BT-50

Some recent releases yet to make it into T&T are:
Versa
Sentra
Altima
Juke
L200 Sportero
CX-30
CX-9
Legacy
Outback
Fiesta
Focus
Escape
i30
Veloster
Sonata


Coming soon:
Subaru Impreza
Audi Q3
Jaguar I-Pace

[Chyna]

Hi all,
I'm new to forum. I spent the last couple of days reading from 2009 to current. I must say I have learnt a lot. The knowledge and information shared here, as a first time car buyer has opened up my eyes.
That being said, I'm in the market for a new vehicle. Something useful I learnt here is to also factor in 'cost of ownership' and service and maintenance costs, which to be honest I did not know about. I'll list my budget and main features and specs I'm looking. I also plan to keep the vehicle for long 5 to 7 years. All thoughts, opinions, suggestions will be welcomed.

Vehicle type: Crossover/SUV...sedans will be considered.
Main use: Family of 4. Daily commute and weekend activities (Guess I'm what they call a soccer mom)
Budget: $230 to $275k (possibly $300k)
Features: all safety features, 6/7 airbags, push start and smart entry, rear air vents, front/rear camera with sensors, ISOFiX latch, AWD, 1+ USB ports, Fuel efficiency.

Thanks so much.

[Pirate]

The Subaru XV sounds good for your purposes.
The basic model for around $229K has all the features with the exception of Push Start which is not really much of a feature and you don't have to worry about "losing your keys while driving" as it will be in the proper location, in the ignition.
It has 3 USBs with one in the rear as well so handy for back seat usage. As a plus it has Apple Car Play and Android Auto built in.
It starts at the lower end of your budget (big plus) and also with the Covid 19 outbreak you can negotiate the hell out of the price. At least a 15% down payment will help your case a lot.

Brochure:
https://ss-usa.s3.amazonaws.com/c/30847 ... u%20XV.pdf

Safety Awards:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlyon/ ... d752df3d32

[agent007]

Hi Chyna,

Welcome to the forums and to this thread. You are on the right path to buying something descent. A non impulse purchase where one would have put some thought into it, is usually a good purchase and less likely to have buyer remorse.

That said, let's analyze your requirements in summary:

Crossover/SUV or sedan
Family of 4, used up to 7 days a week
$230-$300k
6-7 airbags + all safety features + isofix
Push start
Rear AC vents
Front and rear camera
Awd
1+ USB ports

Based on the above, you would not be able to check all those boxes for that price range.

The price range limits you to:

Toyota Rush
Honda HRV
Nissan Qashqai
Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross
Mitsubishi ASX
Mazda CX-3
Suzuki Vitara
Suzuki SX4 S-Cross
Suzuki Ignis
Subaru XV
Hyundai i20 Activ
Hyundai Venue
Hyundai Creta
Hyundai Tucson
Kia Seltos
Kia Niro
Kia Sportage
Chevrolet Trax
Chevrolet Equinox
Ford EcoSport

AWD models are CX-3, Vitara and XV. To get that awd, you would need to go to the highest spec CX-3 at SS and the AllGrip model of the Vitara. The XV has it standard.

The only ones on that list with 7 airbags is the Vitara GLX and above and any model of the XV.

All the higher trimmed versions of the above vehicles have the proximity key/keyless entry and push button start system. Some of those vehicles have them standard.

In terms of rear AC vents, then your options are Seltos, Sportage, Tucson and Equinox.

None of the above options have 360 camera within that price range.

And for USB ports, most should have at least 1 on the dash, 1 in the center console and maybe 1 for the rear seat passengers but the latter is a stretch. You would need to check them out individually to confirm.

Then we have the issue with airbags. Unfortunately, some still start with just 2 airbags and as you climb in the model range, then you get 6 etc.

So stuff like the Qashqai and Seltos are eliminated with just 2. I know there is a Hyundai model in that list with only 2 but I cant recall which one exactly.

2 special mentions are the most fully equipped Vitara GLX+ AllGrip for $253k. It has the 7 airbags, the safety kit, the awd etc.

The Subaru XV 1.6i-S Eyesight is $299k and the I-S non Eyesight is $269k. It has the best ground clearance, standard 7 airbags and awd, rear camera routed on a large 8" touch screen. The Eyesight package gives you forward collision mitigation and reverse auto braking etc etc.

Or if you can minus the awd and crash Mitigation then I hate to admit this because I personally dislike the Kia Sportage but said Sportage in fully loaded 1.6 GDi guise will give you a good package for $268k.

Good luck.

[Chyna]

Thanks so much. This is definitely a front runner.

[Chyna]

Omg! Agent 007!!!!! Thanks so much for this detailed response!! You are definitely a blessing in what has been an overwhelming decision making process for me. Your insight above will serve to aid me greatly in my decision.
Thanks again.

[agent007]

I know in this thread we share excellent reviews, input and advice and we learn from each other. You were in good hands the minute you came lol.

[carluva]

I know that this is the new vehicle thread. But might I also add that you can explore the second hand market. At that budget you may get some good SUVs though you may have to compromise, for example on 6/7 airbags, push to start, isofix. And TBH, on some types of vehicles on the second hand market, you can still get 5 years out of it. In 2016, we bought a three year old vehicle and I give it alot of care and attention as I intend to hold on to it for a while.

Fwiw, I don't care for the push to start. We have one vehicle with PTS and the other with normal key and wifey is usually better off with the key as she sometimes misplaces the keyless fob or its somewhere in that bottomless pit women like to call a handbag. lol

Don't get hung up on isofix. You'll see that seatbelts are almost always superior to isofix fasteners as they have a higher tensile strength. I was like that, but when we bought our second hand SUV we got used to using seatbelts in lieu of isofix.

Also consider the fact that we are in the midst of a pandemic, so even 250k is really a big investment to make in these times given all the uncertainties... Even after this pandemic subsides, who knows how long the effects will be felt, so you may need to ask yourself whether a 300k investment is the right thing to do, regardless of whether you have been financially planning for sometime.

Hi all,
I'm new to forum. I spent the last couple of days reading from 2009 to current. I must say I have learnt a lot. The knowledge and information shared here, as a first time car buyer has opened up my eyes.
That being said, I'm in the market for a new vehicle. Something useful I learnt here is to also factor in 'cost of ownership' and service and maintenance costs, which to be honest I did not know about. I'll list my budget and main features and specs I'm looking. I also plan to keep the vehicle for long 5 to 7 years. All thoughts, opinions, suggestions will be welcomed.

Vehicle type: Crossover/SUV...sedans will be considered.
Main use: Family of 4. Daily commute and weekend activities (Guess I'm what they call a soccer mom)
Budget: $230 to $275k (possibly $300k)
Features: all safety features, 6/7 airbags, push start and smart entry, rear air vents, front/rear camera with sensors, ISOFiX latch, AWD, 1+ USB ports, Fuel efficiency.

Thanks so much.

[Chyna]

Hi carluva,
Thanks so much for your input. You're right in some aspects. I have been financially planning for a while, and it was my thinking to go new and get a solid and reliable vehicle. I honestly did not consider the second hand market, as I didn't want to be burdened with any unforseen issues, as my schedule is already time consuming. It is something to be considered though, as a 3 yr old SUV is a good deal, especially with good mileage and service and maintenance.

Point noted with pandemic, as it was my intention to purchase in the July/August vacation this year. I'm also apprehensive and have been thinking about placing purchase on hold until next July 2021x which gives more time to plan and research.

All in all, I welcome all feedback and appreciate the suggestions made.