T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[nemisis]

Is it available locally? It looks like Nissan's version of the Hilux Rocco.

Yes, it's available locally, $329k iirc.

$350 was the Price I got at the end of November.

Are the differences to the regular version all cosmetic or are there any engine/suspension mods?

$350k?? Wow. Maybe I was mistaken, or it could have been an introductory price. Gladiator, I can't say for sure but online it seems that the changes are mainly cosmetic. I stand to be corrected though.

My bad $349K I just checked the paper. For a comparison check the last two rows.

[carluva]

The photo is blurry. Can you take another one and send?

[nemisis]

The photo is blurry. Can you take another one and send?

I put up another above not sure which one showing better. I’m seeing it clearly on my phone.

[viedcht]

I'm guessing it isn't listed here because while it can be purchased brand new, this thread is specific to the mainstream dealerships as opposed to 'grey-market' dealers and iirc, TTTL doesn't sell the CH-R, thus its omission from the discussion/thread.

Oh okay thanks, always thought it was from Toyota firm

[Monk BANzai]

BMW X3M Competition.... listed for $1.5M...

[carluva]

What is the price difference between the LE Vs the X gear?

The photo is blurry. Can you take another one and send?

I put up another above not sure which one showing better. I’m seeing it clearly on my phone.

[Joshie23]

I just checked the paper. For a comparison check the last two rows.

Well then yes, it seems like it's mainly cosmetic, at least when compared to the FL LE 4x4 version.

[Shalom Vanamson]

BMW X3M Competition.... listed for $1.5M...

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Find that price isnt bad at all comin from a local dealer

[nemisis]

What is the price difference between the LE Vs the X gear?

The photo is blurry. Can you take another one and send?

I put up another above not sure which one showing better. I’m seeing it clearly on my phone.

About 45k could be a little less or more....main difference to me is the seats n well everything else is cosmetic the black out everything......

[agent007]

Hey guys, we got a surprise this Christmas: the arrival of a brand new Mazda CX5 2.0. This one is the top trim model available locally, basically the Signature trim without the awd, turbo and sunroof.

The fit, finish, overal quality and driving dynamics of this vehicle is superior to our other crossovers (Rav4, xtrail, crv and tucson). The stock bose audio system has to be the best factory supplied sound system I have ever heard. It also came with memory seats, crash mitigation, 19" rims, 360 camera, power tailgate and full LED lighting etc. See pics below:

[kamakazi]

HUD?

[rebound]

Whats the price on the CX5?

[agent007]

Yup it has the new HUD projected onto the windshield. This model goes for $356k.

[lancer_man]

Hey guys, we got a surprise this Christmas: the arrival of a brand new Mazda CX5 2.0. This one is the top trim model available locally, basically the Signature trim without the awd, turbo and sunroof.

The fit, finish, overal quality and driving dynamics of this vehicle is superior to our other crossovers (Rav4, xtrail, crv and tucson). The stock bose audio system has to be the best factory supplied sound system I have ever heard. It also came with memory seats, crash mitigation, 19" rims, 360 camera, power tailgate and full LED lighting etc. See pics below:20191225_212859.jpeg20191225_212800.jpeg20191225_142701.jpeg

Rich in features and apparently the handling is very good, but Southern Sales’ service is enough of a drawback to have me look elsewhere.

[wing]

[quote="agent007"]Hey guys, we got a surprise this Christmas: the arrival of a brand new Mazda CX5 2.0. This one is the top trim model available locally, basically the Signature trim without the awd, turbo and sunroof.

The fit, finish, overal quality and driving dynamics of this vehicle is superior to our other crossovers (Rav4, xtrail, crv and tucson). The stock bose audio system has to be the best factory supplied sound system I have ever heard. It also came with memory seats, crash mitigation, 19" rims, 360 camera, power tailgate and full LED lighting etc. See pics below:20191225_212859.jpeg20191225_212800.jpeg20191225_142701.jpeg
Congrats on the purchase. It really is a fantastic vehicle that is too often overlooked in favor of the usual Toyotas and Hondas and Koreans. Does it come with the new infotainment system? Judging from the screen, it appears to be using the last generation system.

[agent007]

This one has the smart phone integration so perhaps it’s an update of the software that was available since 2017?

[carluva]

Congratulations on the new ride 007.

Looks real sweet, especially that colour.

What's the price of the signature trim?

[agent007]

Thanks. It's really a nice vehicle. Maybe SS marketing is poor but it does create a lot of inquisition. People look and we encountered many questions. Some are just waiting to see it in person and to hear about any current ownership concerns before they buy and I can understand that.

I only made reference to the signature model because it was easier to list what it did not come with, but like many Mazda models available internationally, I can confirm that such a trim is not available locally.

[carluva]

Ok I see. But for what you got, at that price, even with today's foreign exchange "issues" and the increased MVT and duties, you really got a steal.

Quite possibly and dollar for dollar, that Mazda outshines the Korean imports, the "legendary" RAV4 and the Forester as well.

[wing]

Ok I see. But for what you got, at that price, even with today's foreign exchange "issues" and the increased MVT and duties, you really got a steal.

Quite possibly and dollar for dollar, that Mazda outshines the Korean imports, the "legendary" RAV4 and the Forester as well.

If you do some basic research, the CX5 routinely outshines the Koreans and legendary RAV/CRV. The problem lies squarely with SS and their crappy service.

[rebound]

Dont forget the Trini mentality and impression of the Mazda Brand when time to sell.

Ok I see. But for what you got, at that price, even with today's foreign exchange "issues" and the increased MVT and duties, you really got a steal.

Quite possibly and dollar for dollar, that Mazda outshines the Korean imports, the "legendary" RAV4 and the Forester as well.

If you do some basic research, the CX5 routinely outshines the Koreans and legendary RAV/CRV. The problem lies squarely with SS and their crappy service.

[Dizzy28]

Mazda's pricing was a bit off when I bought my Tucson a few years ago. They had two versions of the CX5, neither was below 300k when even Honda had a sub 300k CRV.

For people with a budget at or just below 300k they were out.

But now a few brands don't have sub 300k SUVs in that class.

[agent007]

As someone who can judge the RAV4, CRV, CX5, Xtrail and Tucson, I can safely say that each has its uniqueness about them.

Let me start with the Tucson, when you strip that apart, you also get the bones of a Kia Sportage. To me the Sportage is just a cheaper Tucson. Kia is to Hyundai is exactly what Seat and Skoda is to Volkswagen. To me it’s a soup of general mediocrity that attracts buyers due to their features content. Our Tucson is the 2.0 MPi version and we’re so glad that we did not choose the 1.6T with DCT combo back in 2016. The epic nightmares many with these Korean vehicles as they build in age and as the warranty expires is astounding.

The RAV4 is well made and is of good quality. The handling is not as sharp as the Tucson and the rubber band stretchy feeling of a CVT is most present. The ground clearance is great too. 5.5yrs later and it runs like a Swiss chronograph time-piece.

The Xtrail is the hybrid one and the 2nd most powerful of the 5 (at 176hp). It easily outguns most typical crossovers due to emotor assist. The rubber band CVT feeling is there, this time with fake gear shifting as revs climb. A quality product but very bland. The MR20DD engine is already building carbon and that JATCO transmission is questionable like most if not all Nissan Xtronic CVT rubbish.

The CRV is pure fun and quality. It’s the only one that can challenge the Xtrail Hybrid. The 1.5t is rated at 188-190hp. The CVT does not have that rubber band feeling, the handling is good and it’s pretty spacious. I won’t doubt that most of you all might very well choose this one over the others and I won’t blame you. 25 months later and a few quirks here and there, we anticipate this vehicle will continue to work well as the years climb. We are eyeballing the oil dilution issue and are somewhat bracing for impact just in case problems arise by year 2022.

The CX5 is a much different approach towards the compact crossover. It isn’t class leading in space and power but the way this vehicle feels while driving, the overall dynamics, the looks, the quality, the sound system and that paint color which I am bold enough to say is probably the best red in the entire auto industry. The CX5 shines bright on its own, even if you order it in black. If I were to compare a CX5 to the rest of the segment, as I mentioned many times before, it’s a samurai sword in a sea of butter knives.

Let’s remove the Xtrail Hybrid from this mix since it’s a grey market import and replace it with the $419k fully loaded Massy version. That unit will be relegated to a position above the Koreans. So based on my experience with the 5, I will rate them as:

1st CX5
2nd CRV
3rd RAV4
4th Xtrail
5th Tucson

If I were to impose my list against the entire segment offered locally and internationally then my rankings would be:

Prices for top trim models available locally only...
1st CX5 2.0 ($356k)
2nd CRV 1.5t awd ($410k)
3rd Forester 2.0 awd ($459k)
4th Rav4 2.0 ($419k)
5th Xtrail 2.0 awd ($419k)
6th Outlander 2.4 awd ($?)
7th Equinox 1.5t ($290k)
8th Tucson (dual clutch) 1.6t awd ($329k)
9th Tiguan (dual clutch) 2.0t awd ($495k)
10th Cherokee 2.0t awd ($?)
11th Kuga/Escape 1.5t awd ($345k?)
12th Sportage 2.0 ($335k?)

I know your likes would be different. For some, a sunroof is important, others it’s awd. Well if those 2 features is a must together with leather seats and premium audio then your #1 is a toss between the Forester and Tiguan. The 2.0T R-Line performance of the latter will spoil you no doubt but as that vehicle ages, it will redefine what you think a money pit is. So in that case, you may take a Forester. Acceleration and performance are not the attributes you think will come from this brand that makes STI’s but rather, when in the Forester, you can pretty much go almost as far as where a stock Jeep Wrangler can. Now that’s impressive!

[Dizzy28]

The above ranking ignores a key metric for most individuals - cost. The price spread is broad across the various brands

[agent007]

You are right. I updated the post with the last known prices...

[Monk BANzai]

As someone who can judge the RAV4, CRV, CX5, Xtrail and Tucson, I can safely say that each has its uniqueness about them.

Let me start with the Tucson, when you strip that apart, you also get the bones of a Kia Sportage. To me the Sportage is just a cheaper Tucson. Kia is to Hyundai is exactly what Seat and Skoda is to Volkswagen. To me it’s a soup of general mediocrity that attracts buyers due to their features content. Our Tucson is the 2.0 MPi version and we’re so glad that we did not choose the 1.6T with DCT combo back in 2016. The epic nightmares many with these Korean vehicles as they build in age and as the warranty expires is astounding.

The RAV4 is well made and is of good quality. The handling is not as sharp as the Tucson and the rubber band stretchy feeling of a CVT is most present. The ground clearance is great too. 5.5yrs later and it runs like a Swiss chronograph time-piece.

The Xtrail is the hybrid one and the 2nd most powerful of the 5 (at 176hp). It easily outguns most typical crossovers due to emotor assist. The rubber band CVT feeling is there, this time with fake gear shifting as revs climb. A quality product but very bland. The MR20DD engine is already building carbon and that JATCO transmission is questionable like most if not all Nissan Xtronic CVT rubbish.

The CRV is pure fun and quality. It’s the only one that can challenge the Xtrail Hybrid. The 1.5t is rated at 188-190hp. The CVT does not have that rubber band feeling, the handling is good and it’s pretty spacious. I won’t doubt that most of you all might very well choose this one over the others and I won’t blame you. 25 months later and a few quirks here and there, we anticipate this vehicle will continue to work well as the years climb. We are eyeballing the oil dilution issue and are somewhat bracing for impact just in case problems arise by year 2022.

The CX5 is a much different approach towards the compact crossover. It isn’t class leading in space and power but the way this vehicle feels while driving, the overall dynamics, the looks, the quality, the sound system and that paint color which I am bold enough to say is probably the best red in the entire auto industry. The CX5 shines bright on its own, even if you order it in black. If I were to compare a CX5 to the rest of the segment, as I mentioned many times before, it’s a samurai sword in a sea of butter knives.

Let’s remove the Xtrail Hybrid from this mix since it’s a grey market import and replace it with the $419k fully loaded Massy version. That unit will be relegated to a position above the Koreans. So based on my experience with the 5, I will rate them as:

1st CX5
2nd CRV
3rd RAV4
4th Xtrail
5th Tucson

If I were to impose my list against the entire segment offered locally and internationally then my rankings would be:

Prices for top trim models available locally only...
1st CX5 2.0 ($356k)
2nd CRV 1.5t awd ($410k)
3rd Forester 2.0 awd ($459k)
4th Rav4 2.0 ($419k)
5th Xtrail 2.0 awd ($419k)
6th Outlander 2.4 awd ($?)
7th Equinox 1.5t ($290k)
8th Tucson (dual clutch) 1.6t awd ($329k)
9th Tiguan (dual clutch) 2.0t awd ($495k)
10th Cherokee 2.0t awd ($?)
11th Kuga/Escape 1.5t awd ($345k?)
12th Sportage 2.0 ($335k?)

I know your likes would be different. For some, a sunroof is important, others it’s awd. Well if those 2 features is a must together with leather seats and premium audio then your #1 is a toss between the Forester and Tiguan. The 2.0T R-Line performance of the latter will spoil you no doubt but as that vehicle ages, it will redefine what you think a money pit is. So in that case, you may take a Forester. Acceleration and performance are not the attributes you think will come from this brand that makes STI’s but rather, when in the Forester, you can pretty much go almost as far as where a stock Jeep Wrangler can. Now that’s impressive!

always on point withyour write-ups

"The CX5 is a much different approach towards the compact crossover. It isn’t class leading in space and power but the way this vehicle feels while driving, the overall dynamics, the looks, the quality, the sound system and that paint color which I am bold enough to say is probably the best red in the entire auto industry. The CX5 shines bright on its own, even if you order it in black. If I were to compare a CX5 to the rest of the segment, as I mentioned many times before, it’s a samurai sword in a sea of butter knives."

very true.... interfaced with a White (lol not your sobolius red) and it's been surprisingly good!

[jhonnieblue]

The cx5 looks really nice, you should include the x1 in that comparison now.
I have to go check out both as in in the market for a new van early next year.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Can update front page with prices.

[agent007]

Thanks bunny, I understand the output of the new skyactiv 1.5 is rated at 118hp peak power @ 6000rpm and 153Nm peak torque @ 4000rpm vs the previous ancient mzr 1.6 rated at 103hp and 143Nm at same rpm respectively.

A tough battle for this Mazda against its current 1.6 adversaries but what it lacks in grunt, I sure bet it’ll makeup in the overall drive experience.

**page 1 updated**

[Dave]

Agreed but many ppl would still say 238k for a 1.5