T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[aidan]

Hey guys. Anyone know if any new 4x4 pickups could be had in basic trim.like no power windows,mirrors,locks etc, unpainted front bumper. Looking for something for agricultural use but has to be 4wd. Any recommendations?

Coworker of mines bought an isuzu, manual... it did have some of the bling you dont want.

I think you can get a ford ranger real basic but it will still have some of what you dont want.

Why dont you check LSM for the mahindra? That should fit the bill.

Check a&m marketing they have the wingle

I'd prefer to stay away from the wingle. I was thinking along the lines of a base model pickup. Currently have a qd32 frontier and l200 4x4 base model bought from new and those going strong. But new versions of those not available.

On another note the Cruze turbo looks like a good contender in it's class

[triniboi49]

The armarok are in the showrooms. They look great. While I was there I saw the facelifted Jetta the new one has minor changes to it but for the price looks more premium than its competitors which I think are the civic, corolla and the loaded elantra.

[smee...]

Anyone know if the new vw jetta they are offering still has the mechatronic/transmission issue or any other issues?
Saw it and i'm very impressed. The fully loaded jetta's are 275k i reckon.

[triniboi49]

Anyone know if the new vw jetta they are offering still has the mechatronic/transmission issue or any other issues?
Saw it and i'm very impressed. The fully loaded jetta's are 275k i reckon.

The salesman said they no longer order jetta's that have the issue. The fully loaded is 245K, and you get a lot of kit with the car- powered seats, leather, sun roof, the new touch screen deck, reverse cameras.

They also have the older model in stock. If Best Auto really sorted out the mechatronic issues and using premium is not a problem for you the Jetta at that price is compelling. The blue in the show room looks compelling.

[zando]

Anyone know if the new vw jetta they are offering still has the mechatronic/transmission issue or any other issues?
Saw it and i'm very impressed. The fully loaded jetta's are 275k i reckon.

The salesman said they no longer order jetta's that have the issue. The fully loaded is 245K, and you get a lot of kit with the car- powered seats, leather, sun roof, the new touch screen deck, reverse cameras.

They also have the older model in stock. If Best Auto really sorted out the mechatronic issues and using premium is not a problem for you the Jetta at that price is compelling. The blue in the show room looks compelling.

Lol @ they order the ones that don't have the issue, I smell bs from massy.

[agent007]

It's true. I was told from PDL to now you won't hear any issues with the Jetta like you use to with the PCT to PDK models. BS or not it's too little too late for me with that car. The price is not $275k though it's actually now $245k. The Civic turbo is $275k. As we on prices I'm pleased to mention that the Kia Cerato Koup is now $212k and the Veloster turbo is now $239k

[triniboi49]

Anybody looked at the new Kuga yet? It's on my list to checkout. The downsides for me is 1 it's a ford and 2 it uses premium. I do think that the 2018 budget might negate the price of gasoline as a factor. Since I'm talking but ford I see the fusion is now 269. I don't see any on the road though.

[triniboi49]

Massy also dropped the price of the Xtrail to 263K. I think the facelift is coming soon.

[agent007]

Ford makes some world class products bro. That Kuga/Escape imho is superior in any form or fashion than most jap and Korean crossovers. Drive the kuga then go drive the Sportage or Rav4 and you will run right back to the Ford trust me. Only jap right now that I rate higher than the kuga is the 2017 Mazda CX-5 which hasn't arrived at SS yet. The aging Captiva is soon to be replaced with the new 2018 Equinox which is GM's global midsize crossover that promises to be a great entry to the segment.

[smee...]

Anyone know if the new vw jetta they are offering still has the mechatronic/transmission issue or any other issues?
Saw it and i'm very impressed. The fully loaded jetta's are 275k i reckon.

The salesman said they no longer order jetta's that have the issue. The fully loaded is 245K, and you get a lot of kit with the car- powered seats, leather, sun roof, the new touch screen deck, reverse cameras.

They also have the older model in stock. If Best Auto really sorted out the mechatronic issues and using premium is not a problem for you the Jetta at that price is compelling. The blue in the show room looks compelling.

Lol @ they order the ones that don't have the issue, I smell bs from massy.

I am really trying to believe that massy is telling the truth about the new jetta's having no problem, especially for 245k which is 2k less than "the new fully loaded corolla"... however as the old time saying goes "which fisherman says his fish is spoilt."

Saw the same blue one in the showroom and indeed it is compelling, especially when seated in the vehicle... yet when i asked if the warranty on the transmission could be extended from 3 years to 5 years, they quickly dismissed the idea altogether. Leaving me with little assurance about the whole matter honestly!

I was also trying to figure out if they are selling the 2016 model with a trim update as the 2017 model? From online videos I have seen, the identical car that they have in the showroom presently is reviewed as the 2015/2016 vw jetta facelift. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2biKVOCB-g&t=806s
Which would be quite upsetting, if true!

As for TTTL they are palming off the 2016 toyota corolla s+ (minus some of the s+ base features) as the new fully loaded 2017 toyota corolla, which is pure crap! None of the new corollas they are selling as 2017 models have the 'toyota safety sense p system' which comes mandatory on all trim levels for every 2017 corolla model (except in Trinidad apparently). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtzFoP29j7U

[smee...]

It's true. I was told from PDL to now you won't hear any issues with the Jetta like you use to with the PCT to PDK models. BS or not it's too little too late for me with that car. The price is not $275k though it's actually now $245k. The Civic turbo is $275k. As we on prices I'm pleased to mention that the Kia Cerato Koup is now $212k and the Veloster turbo is now $239k

Do you know of anyone who bought a vw jetta PDL series or later with which it could be verified?

Do you have any updated prices for the suzuki vehicles aswell as feedback on them? vitara, ciaz, baleno?
Got a bit turned off from LSM when I realised they were scrapping the infotainment system which comes standard on all their new vehicles and replacing it with a dulled down deck. When i inquired regarding the infotainment system, they said you had to pay extra if you wanted it! Reminded me of *unnamed car dealers from back in the day*.

[smee...]

Ford makes some world class products bro.

Not all! Spoke to a lady about a month ago who owns a ford focus, when i asked her what she thought about the car because I was interested in acquiring one, she blurted out "I would not recommend anyone purchase one"(she owns the 2014 ford focus) she went on to mention that since she purchased it, she has gotten nothing but trouble with the transmission and has regularly been to ANSA Motors where they have constantly been doing updates on the transmission but nothing thus far(3+ years later) has resolved the problem. She said they told her that the transmission was not built for traffic conditions.

This was after I had been to ANSA and checked out the vehicle myself, which is very comfortable inside... have not gotten proper feedback from anyone down here on the new 1.0L 3 cylinder ecoboost and the tranny.

[worksux101]

Ford makes some world class products bro. That Kuga/Escape imho is superior in any form or fashion than most jap and Korean crossovers. Drive the kuga then go drive the Sportage or Rav4 and you will run right back to the Ford trust me. Only jap right now that I rate higher than the kuga is the 2017 Mazda CX-5 which hasn't arrived at SS yet. The aging Captiva is soon to be replaced with the new 2018 Equinox which is GM's global midsize crossover that promises to be a great entry to the segment.

As someone whose driven all of those quite a bit (other than the 2015/6 CX-5 which i only drove once) - that's nonsense...
The CRV and XV are far better than the Kuga generally...the Rav4 is a much more comfortable drive, but with less features and an uglier interior (but that's subjective obviously)...the Sportage gives you everything the Kuga does but is cheaper both initially and in the long run...
What I would say, and of course this is only from my experience, Ansa is the best dealer of the bunch.
I'd personally never purchase a car from SSSL or Toyota again, and Massy always rubs me the wrong way (I would not trust their VW promise either).

[drchaos]

It's true. I was told from PDL to now you won't hear any issues with the Jetta like you use to with the PCT to PDK models. BS or not it's too little too late for me with that car. The price is not $275k though it's actually now $245k. The Civic turbo is $275k. As we on prices I'm pleased to mention that the Kia Cerato Koup is now $212k and the Veloster turbo is now $239k

Do you know of anyone who bought a vw jetta PDL series or later with which it could be verified?

Do you have any updated prices for the suzuki vehicles aswell as feedback on them? vitara, ciaz, baleno?
Got a bit turned off from LSM when I realised they were scrapping the infotainment system which comes standard on all their new vehicles and replacing it with a dulled down deck. When i inquired regarding the infotainment system, they said you had to pay extra if you wanted it! Reminded me of *unnamed car dealers from back in the day*.

You won't know if you have transmission issues until a few years into ownership. So no one Can confirm this. Many people on this forum have already advised people to not trust sales persons advice as they have little to no clue about the technical aspect of the product they are selling.
An extended warranty on the transmission would ease people's fears but that is not being offered.

[Dave]

I can't begin to comprehend why would you bring a car that was not meant for traffic. Do they live in Trinidad?

[agent007]

Smee, I personally don't like Suzuki vehicles. Never was a fan and I don't think I ever will be. I won't mind owning a Jimmy or Grand Vitara though as those 2 are not awd crossover posers like pretty much everything else in the segment. But with regards to the infotainment system, I can't verify that claim. The only Suzukis I know that did not come with a fancy OEM installed infotainment system is pretty much most units except the Vitara 1.6 and that they never touched. For the Grand Vitara's, they installed a double DIN touch screen DVD deck which to me was an upgrade over the factory integrated unit.

Concerning the Ford Focus 1.6, those cars were equipped with the 6 speed dual dry clutch transmission, a similar setup to the Jetta except the Jet had one more cog at bay. The new ecoboost focus 1.0 3 cylinder delivers more hp and torque across all matching rev range compared to the 1.6 unit ANSA imported previously. The dual clutch was ditched for a torque converter 6AT to quell any fears as well. Unfortunately the use of premium grade fuel remains.

Worksux, I disagree bro. I've test driven that new 2017 Kuga and it's light years ahead the CRV and RAV4. From a safety and equipment POV. The handling and the suspension over rough roads etc again imho is superior in the Kuga. What appears to be a turnoff for some is the lack of a low range (I can't see this to be a valid point because it's a crossover not a true SUV), lack of a sunroof (like who cares) and it doesn't seat 7 or have a diesel option locally. Those beefs are really nitpicking tbh. Tucson/Sportage, RAV, CRV and Xtrail etc feel very light and unsettled in areas where the Kuga feels very composed. The japs that nail safety and handling etc is Mazda and Subaru so we can agree with the XV.

[triniboi49]

The features on the Kuga are better than the Sportage and the Tuscon. Test drove the old Sportage and I find it quite basic. Another interesting option is the X1 18i with the 1.5 3 cylinder engine

[jumpkickjoe]

It's true. I was told from PDL to now you won't hear any issues with the Jetta like you use to with the PCT to PDK models. BS or not it's too little too late for me with that car. The price is not $275k though it's actually now $245k. The Civic turbo is $275k. As we on prices I'm pleased to mention that the Kia Cerato Koup is now $212k and the Veloster turbo is now $239k

Do you know of anyone who bought a vw jetta PDL series or later with which it could be verified?

Do you have any updated prices for the suzuki vehicles aswell as feedback on them? vitara, ciaz, baleno?
Got a bit turned off from LSM when I realised they were scrapping the infotainment system which comes standard on all their new vehicles and replacing it with a dulled down deck. When i inquired regarding the infotainment system, they said you had to pay extra if you wanted it! Reminded me of *unnamed car dealers from back in the day*.

Smee, it seems the infotainment option varies by region. Saw some reviews of the new baleno in different countries and they either had the infotainment center or a actual pioneer DVD deck also extra exterior trimmings.

[SR]

The kuga is made in germany and fully loaded is 299. 1.5 water cooled turbo eco boost engine.

[SR]

My problem with all new car dealors is service especially within the warranty period. From all reports no one has good service...to the point its best one goes roro instead and seek service on the outside. Ford has 5 years 100k everyone else its aat 3 years.

[Dave]

Hence one of the many reasons I probably will never buy a new vehicle.

[worksux101]

Worksux, I disagree bro. I've test driven that new 2017 Kuga and it's light years ahead the CRV and RAV4. From a safety and equipment POV. The handling and the suspension over rough roads etc again imho is superior in the Kuga. What appears to be a turnoff for some is the lack of a low range (I can't see this to be a valid point because it's a crossover not a true SUV), lack of a sunroof (like who cares) and it doesn't seat 7 or have a diesel option locally. Those beefs are really nitpicking tbh. Tucson/Sportage, RAV, CRV and Xtrail etc feel very light and unsettled in areas where the Kuga feels very composed. The japs that nail safety and handling etc is Mazda and Subaru so we can agree with the XV.

Cant speak for the 2017 Kuga, only the 2015/16.
I'd take your word for it that the new one is improved.
I've never driven the x-trail either - i imagine its the typical nissan cutback on everything.
The Rav and CRV are awful from performance perspectives, but thats not what you get an SUV for is it...comfort wise, i thought them significantly better than the Ford (but like i said you're prolly right re: the new model). The Sportage had solid handling imho and never felt unsettled...and thats with many spirited coastal drives.
And i 100% agree with you about those features being non-issues. If you need low-range at a low price, vitara...end of.

I agree with SR in that i'd prolly never purchase another new vehicle in tnt...i had good experiences with ansa's group, so that's the only option i'd consider if i needed the convenience.

I saw someone mention the new x1...if you can afford it and are thinking about purchasing one - stop thinking and go buy it! It is an exemplary vehicle for its class. I rented one for a week and hopped around iceland, where the weather goes from one extreme to another at the drop of a dime. I drove the hell out of that bmw on everything from icy mountain roads to long sunny highways...it never flinched. The power isnt the greatest (i had the 2.0 diesel) but it handles exceptionally well under all conditions and is quite comfy.

[scotty_buttons]

Worksux, I disagree bro. I've test driven that new 2017 Kuga and it's light years ahead the CRV and RAV4. From a safety and equipment POV. The handling and the suspension over rough roads etc again imho is superior in the Kuga. What appears to be a turnoff for some is the lack of a low range (I can't see this to be a valid point because it's a crossover not a true SUV), lack of a sunroof (like who cares) and it doesn't seat 7 or have a diesel option locally. Those beefs are really nitpicking tbh. Tucson/Sportage, RAV, CRV and Xtrail etc feel very light and unsettled in areas where the Kuga feels very composed. The japs that nail safety and handling etc is Mazda and Subaru so we can agree with the XV.

Cant speak for the 2017 Kuga, only the 2015/16.
I'd take your word for it that the new one is improved.
I've never driven the x-trail either - i imagine its the typical nissan cutback on everything.
The Rav and CRV are awful from performance perspectives, but thats not what you get an SUV for is it...comfort wise, i thought them significantly better than the Ford (but like i said you're prolly right re: the new model). The Sportage had solid handling imho and never felt unsettled...and thats with many spirited coastal drives.
And i 100% agree with you about those features being non-issues. If you need low-range at a low price, vitara...end of.

I agree with SR in that i'd prolly never purchase another new vehicle in tnt...i had good experiences with ansa's group, so that's the only option i'd consider if i needed the convenience.

I saw someone mention the new x1...if you can afford it and are thinking about purchasing one - stop thinking and go buy it! It is an exemplary vehicle for its class. I rented one for a week and hopped around iceland, where the weather goes from one extreme to another at the drop of a dime. I drove the hell out of that bmw on everything from icy mountain roads to long sunny highways...it never flinched. The power isnt the greatest (i had the 2.0 diesel) but it handles exceptionally well under all conditions and is quite comfy.

I can vouch for the x1 as well. I was very impressed. Much more power on tap than the competition. Local x1 comes with a 2.0 turbo.
If you're considering a fully loaded Rav4 or CRV or CX5, strongly consider the X1.
I'd take it in a heartbeat.

[SR]

Whats the coat of the x1

[worksux101]

Whats the coat of the x1

paint usually...but you can choose which colour tickles your fancy

[SR]

Right
...right

[worksux101]

scotty_buttons should know...i have no idea

[scotty_buttons]

Whats the coat of the x1

Costs the same as the previously mentioned SUVs (fully loaded)
Little more than 400k IIRC.

[RedVEVO]

The armarok are in the showrooms. They look great. While I was there I saw the facelifted Jetta the new one has minor changes to it but for the price looks more premium than its competitors which I think are the civic, corolla and the loaded elantra.

Amarok

What was the listed price ?

What were the new features ?

[triniboi49]

I looked at the basic still working on the price but it had auto lights wipers dimming rear view mirror and apps support