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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby kdere » November 28th, 2014, 5:53 pm

Where u from? Riding with any groups?

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby M@nnie » November 29th, 2014, 5:16 pm

I have a used icon vest and helmet if any1 interested in this forum. Link me 742-5184

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Ruff » November 30th, 2014, 10:15 am

3stagevtec wrote:From my research, the stock regulators on the older VT Hondas are not mosfets.. i'll get the part number to verify when I get home

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » November 30th, 2014, 2:27 pm

The regulator that came with the bike was a SH633-12 which as far as I can find, is not a mosfet type.

http://www.hondashadow.net/forum/72-technical-discussion/107378-charging-system-upgrade.html

Then, I read about so many members having to install a new stator as theirs had gone bad, and was also going to install an after market, higher output stator to keep my battery charged with more power. Mine charging system was only sending 12.5 or so volts to the battery at idle and even less when reved up, so I thought the stator was bad...WRONG. My stator tested just fine.
It's also suggested on some sites to replace the voltage regulator when replacing the stator, so I figured my regulator was the problem and I was right. The stock regulators are not very good regulators and don't work very well. They get way too hot and don't send enough power to the battery, and not only that, they make the stator run hot, eventually burning the wires on them, taking them out.
So I did some research and found the answer to our charging problems. It seems it's not the stator not putting out enough power, it's the voltage regulator not sending enough power to the battery, running too hot by it's very design and from the stock wiring harness using too thin gauge wires between the regulator and the battery.

I found the Mosfet type regulator to be alot better regulator. It runs cooler and sends alot more power to the battery. It's found on the Yamaha R1 sport bikes, as well as some Roadliners, ATVs and snowmobiles. The part number is FH012aa, which shows it's a Mosfet style regulator. Our stock regulators are SH models and send the extra power to ground, which is why they run very hot and don't work very well to keep the battery fully charged. That's is probably why they eventually take out the stator from over heating too.


Now, the FH012aa is a mosfet shunt design, which is not a very efficient design.

There is a Shindengen SH775, which is a mosfet series design, which is far gentler on the stator..

http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-triple-forum/104504-charging-system-diagnostics-rectifier-regulator-upgrade-2.html#post3056170

Here is the SIGNIFICANT difference - this new R/R is SERIES - not SHUNT!!

Why is that of benefit?
The difference between Series & Shunt is that:

Shunt - the Stator always has to apply maximum generated current - when the R/R is in regulation it shorts across the winding to 'shunt' current away from the load directly back to the stator. In an SCR (OEM) Shunt Regulator the SCRs get extremely hot and they ultimately burn out if that heat is not adequately cooled - that is why OEM needs to up front directly in the cooling path.
Because of the way it operates, if you reduce the system load (e.g. turn off the lights) the R/R will actually have to shunt MORE current and will run hotter - but the stator load is the same regardless of whether the current is going to the load, or back through the SCR's.

Series - this is fundamentally different in that in a Series design, instead of diverting (shunting) excess current back to the stator to control the output voltage, the regulation works by interrupting the current path to the load. This means that the Regulator ONLY supplies current demanded by the load itself, and no excess current parallel path through a shunt. So the net result is that this type of Regulator is MUCH kinder on the stator because the stator is always supplying much less current! So the stator does not get so hot and its reliability increases significantly.
The fact that it has SCR's is not quite so problematic as in the Shunt application, because they are flowing less current and for a shorter duration. So they will not get as hot as when used in shunt mode.

This particular unit is a Shindengen SH775 regulator and is used on Polaris models.
It is VERY inexpensive - brand new -
e.g. $73 shipped!!!! ($60 & change plus shipping)
http://polarisparts123.com/partnumber-search/ (enter 4012941)

Polaris REGULATOR-3PH,35A,SERIES,105C for 2011 Polaris R11HR76AG/AR RANGER 6X6 800 EFI 4012941

(or wherever else you can source Polaris parts)


If you are interested in upgrading your electrical system on your bike, please read through the links provided and do additional research before purchasing..

http://www.roadstercycle.com/

Sells the two mentioned mosfet type regulators, they come pre wired as a kit if your choose to go that route, which makes for install / upgrade a breeze. I purchased the SH775 kit from them and their shipping was very fast. (The harness on my VT750 is in a mess, and I was feeling lazy to wire things up myself..

Those are the wires from my stator!
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Now, if you do decide to upgrade to a series type mosfet regulator, see here:

http://www.vstrom.info/Smf/index.php/topic,20426.msg194890.html#msg194890

They have a ton of data on operating temperatures and other benefits posted.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Fazeer » December 1st, 2014, 8:15 am

kdere wrote:Where u from? Riding with any groups?


Im from south...i dont ride with any groups...just occasionally meet up with some friends and take a ride...

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Ruff » December 1st, 2014, 6:04 pm

Helluvan update 3stagevtec

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » December 2nd, 2014, 7:09 pm

Ruff wrote:Helluvan update 3stagevtec


:lol: I get carried away sometimes!

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » December 3rd, 2014, 6:55 pm

I like having information to work with.. My bike came without a tachometer, so I figured I'd do something about it. Got this fella off amazon for $60usd.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Ruff » December 3rd, 2014, 7:32 pm

Installation will be interesting.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » December 3rd, 2014, 7:39 pm



this is one installed on a Shadow Aero model..

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Fazeer » December 5th, 2014, 12:25 pm

dont know if this was discussed before on the forum but it's quite alot to cetch up on...question to you guys..when do you prefer to ride? i prefer riding mid week at night like after 9pm and on weekends early morning saturday rides like from around 5:30 n sundays early morning and afternoon rides...really get a nice cool relaxing ride at those times in my opinion....get away from most drunkies at those times as well....

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » December 7th, 2014, 10:34 am

(I am copying this post I made on another forum and posting it here)

Electrical Upgrade - Series type MOSFET Regulator / Rectifier upgrade

This is a kit I purchased from Roadstercycle.com.

Below I will show the install process on my 2000 VT750 ACE via pictures.

The Super Series Kit SH775
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This regulator is much bigger than the stock SH633-12 on my Honda Shadow.
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Nice sized wiring
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Beefy looking connectors
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Test Fit
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Bike, Bunnies and Bed!
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Stator wires
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Wiring with heat shrink wrap. Factory connector removed and a direct connection was made.
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Final location
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Voltage checks at idle. This is with the headlight off
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Voltage with the headlights on at idle
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If you are having stator issues, or regulator running hot issues, I would strongly recommend upgrading to a MOSFET type regulator. There are lots of information available online on this topic

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Nissian for life » December 11th, 2014, 8:16 pm

Ok guys im newb in the bike scene seriously considering it as an option and would like to know what insurance would cost me I'm 19 ...

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Sumana.00 » December 14th, 2014, 6:00 pm

Does anyone know who PCA 504 is?

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby jerry2008 » December 14th, 2014, 6:23 pm

Why what happened to pcs 504

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby kdere » December 14th, 2014, 6:46 pm

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Sumana.00 » December 14th, 2014, 7:09 pm

Sorry should have detailed.

Coming through Brasso Caparo road he was driving incredibly dangerously clipped a van and when someone told him about it proceeded to give gun signs to the driver of the vehicle.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Fazeer » December 15th, 2014, 8:51 am

Nissian for life wrote:Ok guys im newb in the bike scene seriously considering it as an option and would like to know what insurance would cost me I'm 19 ...


Bike insurance is around 1500 buddy. Check 21st century brokers in sando...

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » December 17th, 2014, 4:01 pm

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Ride safe out there fellas... :shock:

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby kdere » December 17th, 2014, 4:14 pm

Where and when?source of photos? Condition of rider

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » December 17th, 2014, 4:55 pm

ROAD WATCH TT
https://www.facebook.com/pages/ROAD-WATCH-TT/573562552680813

A concerned citizen would like to highlight the following accident which occurred a short while ago, near the Fernandez Compound. Let's hope there were no fatalities.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 2 d Max Auto » March 8th, 2015, 10:36 am

Hey guys, hope you are all riding safe.

I haven't been on 2 wheels for the last year :cry:

Had to sell the bike to do some business, hopefully soon I'll have that settled down and enjoying the freedom of riding again 8-)

In the meantime if any of you guys are interested, I've got some OEM bike keys for sport bikes:

See here:

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Price is $60 each and we can cut it for you on site for just $20.

Holla if you're interested: 1 (868) 461-3244.

Be safe guys!

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » March 18th, 2015, 8:13 am

I'd like to get some advice on the following scenario..

I was parked in a line of traffic (off ramp into Gasparillo, right lane turns right), about 8 cars from the front waiting to turn. I stopped to the left of the right lane, so I would be more visible to cars behind and so that they wouldn't mistake the gap in traffic for an empty space. Traffic wardens were present on the junction ahead.

An older gentleman in the car behind had sound his horn and signaled for me to overtake the line and move up to the front. I saw him explaining something to his passenger after he had signaled me. I chose to stay in the line and wait it out like everyone else. I wasn't able to talk with the guy to get the reasoning behind his intentions.

What would you have done in such a scenario? What is the RIGHT thing to do? What is the SAFE thing to do? I'd like to hear your opinion.. I am new to riding, 3 months experience so far.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby zoom rader » March 18th, 2015, 10:24 am

3stagevtec wrote:I'd like to get some advice on the following scenario..

I was parked in a line of traffic (off ramp into Gasparillo, right lane turns right), about 8 cars from the front waiting to turn. I stopped to the left of the right lane, so I would be more visible to cars behind and so that they wouldn't mistake the gap in traffic for an empty space. Traffic wardens were present on the junction ahead.

An older gentleman in the car behind had sound his horn and signaled for me to overtake the line and move up to the front. I saw him explaining something to his passenger after he had signaled me. I chose to stay in the line and wait it out like everyone else. I wasn't able to talk with the guy to get the reasoning behind his intentions.

What would you have done in such a scenario? What is the RIGHT thing to do? What is the SAFE thing to do? I'd like to hear your opinion.. I am new to riding, 3 months experience so far.


In the UK you overtake slowly and move up the front where their is a special front portion marked box/lane at the traffic lights for Motorbike and cyclist.
In trini you don't have those and it's not covered in the highway code.
If your bike can move up to the front of traffic safely, then do so.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby 3stagevtec » March 18th, 2015, 11:46 am

Usually if the line of cars extend up to the highway, I would pass the line and move up to the front. I don't want to be sitting in a line of traffic next to cars travelling at high speeds.

Outside of that, I tend to stay in traffic and play it safe.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby zoom rader » March 18th, 2015, 12:10 pm

3stagevtec wrote:Usually if the line of cars extend up to the highway, I would pass the line and move up to the front. I don't want to be sitting in a line of traffic next to cars travelling at high speeds.

Outside of that, I tend to stay in traffic and play it safe.


By all means play it safe untill you gain enough riding skills. Remember always use you mirrors and look out ppl opening doors.
Expect every car to swing out on you as drivers don't use their mirrors and can't really see bikes.

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Re: Motorcycle Riders

Postby Keyser Soze » March 18th, 2015, 1:32 pm

3stagevtec, while there is no law indicating the specifics of lane splitting wrt motorcycles, instinct coupled with experience will tell you that the safest place to be is in the front of the traffic... actually closer to the center.
Try to put yourself as much as you can out of the path of vehicles.

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