Evo X vs New STI vs >>>

Wizard · Postby **Wizard** » January 6th, 2008, 7:11 pm

OLD EVo and STI !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844C8Wnfjf8

Postby **Tsuchiya** » January 6th, 2008, 8:37 pm

i still dislike the front grille and how the headlights look on the sti...just like how i hated the older model but it grew on me :lol:

did not expect the new sti to be that quick, seems to understeer exactly like the old one but just overall more grip.
poor showing by the evo x tho, even after all that hype

Postby **Monk BANzai** » January 6th, 2008, 8:43 pm

great way to start the yr!!!

Postby **Monk BANzai** » January 6th, 2008, 8:57 pm

interesting result.....the X is hmm..h.eavy?.......but that new Sti runing nice.....hate the shape....but it really did its job, starting from last on the grid to the first...

whats even more noticable is the positon of the old Sti to the IX...the IX was blown out the water....

Wizard · Postby **Wizard** » January 6th, 2008, 9:14 pm

saw the impreza on the road the other day and it lookin rell toy-like, did not like it ataaalll.

eyebrow raising performance by the X

RASC · Postby **RASC** » January 7th, 2008, 4:48 am

Hold Up Hold Up Hold Up

STUDY THAT VIDEO VERY CAREFULLY!

I don't really like the EVO-X that much but fair is fair...look at the shift points of the evo-x ESPECIALLY in and out corners and then compare that to the shifting of Dori Dori in the new STi or even Kinoshita in the older STi :evil:

Those guys had the needle bouncing off of 8k at nearly EVERY shift...the evo's on the other hand were barely even pushed that hard. I didn't see one time where the X or even the IX was anywhere close to hitting the limiter :idea:

Bull S#!t

plex · Postby **plex** » January 7th, 2008, 7:06 am

interesting vid.. :twisted:

Polydor · Postby **Polydor** » January 7th, 2008, 7:44 am

BANzai Rastafarai wrote:interesting result.....the X is hmm..h.eavy?.......but that new Sti runing nice.....hate the shape....but it really did its job, starting from last on the grid to the first...

whats even more noticable is the positon of the old Sti to the IX...the IX was blown out the water....

^^^Turning to the Sti now huh :?:

.......

Postby **Monk BANzai** » January 7th, 2008, 7:48 am

HUTRINI wrote:Hold Up Hold Up Hold Up

STUDY THAT VIDEO VERY CAREFULLY!

I don't really like the EVO-X that much but fair is fair...look at the shift points of the evo-x ESPECIALLY in and out corners and then compare that to the shifting of Dori Dori in the new STi or even Kinoshita in the older STi Those guys had the needle bouncing off of 8k at nearly EVERY shift...the evo's on the other hand were barely even pushed that hard. I didn't see one time where the X or even the IX was anywhere close to hitting the limiter

Bull S#!t

cud be drving styles?....

Postby **eliteauto** » January 7th, 2008, 7:57 am

STis did hit the rev limiter, but driving style is no excuse, or possibly the scoobys just revved faster and hit higher shift points on the circuit, but the result does not surprise me but will have little influence on purchases esp here where rally inspired cars are bought by straight-line enthusiasts

sirbill · Postby **sirbill** » January 7th, 2008, 8:05 am

What's the red line of the X? Looks like around 7K, in which case he was shifting very much close to 7.5K or more. The early shots of tack were all on approach to a corner so wasn't passing 7k. Also, the lines the X driver were using were horrible - driving wide in the corners not protecting his lead and letting everyone and their grandmother through.

But then again, these videos are usually setups to show the flavour of the month as the winner. Pinch of salt.

The new Sti did seem more raunchy, raw and responsive though. Looks like the more fun factor car than the X.

Postby **Monk BANzai** » January 7th, 2008, 8:14 am

^^^ Tsychia was drivin that eh..he does make ANY car look...."raunchy, raw and responsive"....

Postby **eliteauto** » January 7th, 2008, 9:05 am

^^^ true point eh but damn he shifts a car sweetly

pornstar4777 · Postby **pornstar4777** » January 7th, 2008, 9:54 am

LoL the old STI run the EVO 9 and 10....Mitsu has alotta catching up to do!

snail · Postby **snail** » January 7th, 2008, 11:44 am

i am with HUTRINI on that one

X2 · Postby X2 » January 7th, 2008, 3:31 pm

Nice vid.... so they were babying both X's ? I dunno...

16 cycles · Postby **16 cycles** » January 7th, 2008, 10:29 pm

^^ this is a pro-evo forum

just sit back and enjoy the excuses

Morpheus23 · Postby **Morpheus23** » January 7th, 2008, 11:04 pm

16 cycles wrote:^^ this is a pro-evo forum

just sit back and enjoy the excuses

^^^

I was not expecting them big fat Evo X to beat anybody. But the GSR kinda disappointing.

Sti hatch wukking!!! :shock:

8000RPM Redline :shock:

Dat needle reaching dey real fast!

Morpheus23 · Postby **Morpheus23** » January 7th, 2008, 11:22 pm

OMG!!!! @ 0:50 :shock:

lowlife · Postby **lowlife** » January 8th, 2008, 8:47 am

^^^

lowlife · Postby **lowlife** » January 8th, 2008, 8:47 am

I had to watch it again....FCUK!!

Morpheus23 · Postby **Morpheus23** » January 8th, 2008, 9:08 am

lowlife wrote:I had to watch it again....FCUK!!

^^Man I now watchit again myself.Twice. Gad Damn.

Dat mix with Gecko!! :shock:

noshownogo · Postby **noshownogo** » January 8th, 2008, 10:28 am

I was watching the Evo X rpm drop rather low on up shifts which i found interesting but it is clear that the impreza was faster and easier to drive hard.

16 cycles · Postby **16 cycles** » January 8th, 2008, 2:35 pm

Seems that there is more fun to be had in the Sti regardless of driving style. Like the new layout of the console too.

It took a few iterations even for Ferrari to get the paddle shifters right on their production cars and Maserati up to last year fouled it up on one of their models. Not saying anything wrong with the X's set-up, just recalling stuff from the not too long past.

No doubt all the thoroughbreds from all manufacturers have it smooth like glass in their racing programs but its bridging the gap that has some issues.

With all the new electronic this and that, it is getting considerably more difficult for the avg / expert tuner to start tinkering abt just to ooze the hp out.

Are manufacturers making the slow move towards tamper-proof ECUs?

Just somethn to think abt...esp with these cars...

Zh@ne · Postby **Zh@ne** » January 9th, 2008, 2:27 pm

Scoooobie

Sanctifier · Postby **Sanctifier** » January 9th, 2008, 3:05 pm

sirbill wrote:...Looks like the more fun factor car than the X.

Yup bill that's what I said too...

Sanctifier wrote:Yup. Great electronic handling aids and gear-shift... BUT...
Too tall... too heavy... too slow compared to most older Evos.
Evo X may be a BIG seller for mainstream market...
but Subaru will have a field day next year with 2nrs.

Looks like a good candidate for a diet plus an early power upgrade next year.
All in favour of Evo 10.5 RS2?...

Tsuchiya wrote:gimme a 6.5 tommi mak and i good

Sanctifier wrote:Yup I agree.
Evo X has quicker gearchange, better adhesion and handling...
Sorry, but I still don't like the styling...I prefer my Evos more "edgey."
Evo X is TOO BIG! Jeez! It's 4 inches taller and 2 inches wider than the Evo IX
... Good Lord! That's almost as big as a "Shark-mouth" Galant!
DAMN IT'S HEAVY!... Evo IX is over 250 lbs heavier than E6 TME RS2.
Evo X is more than 350 lbs HEAVIER than E6 TME. Almost 3 passengers extra.
Evo X's extra weight will need much more power just to stay even with older Evos.

If you have to spend nearly $400k and then upgrade Evo X just to compete with older Evos then just buy older Evo and upgrade suspension, wheels and turbo. Better results IMHO.

My $0.02Â¢