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Postby 10-01 » March 16th, 2007, 8:26 pm

redsupra101,

doh waste your time with dem honda men ........................ we doh hav to fight dwn nissan pure facts alone does say it all

which NA 1600 cc engine nissan build could mke specs like this stock
B16A SiR II
Displacement (cc): 1595
Power (bhp@rpm): 170@7600
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 116@7000
Compression Ratio: 10.4:1
Bore (mm): 81
Stroke (mm): 77.4
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 1
Year(s) Produced: 1992-1995


which NA 1800 engine nissan mke could mke specs like this stock
B18C3
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Displacement (cc): 1797
Power (bhp@rpm): 200 ps@8000 rpm
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 15.5 kg-m@7500 rpm
Compression Ratio: 10.8:1
Bore (mm): 81
Stroke (mm): 87.2
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 1 or 2
Year(s) Produced: 1996


:twisted:

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Postby *Phoenix* » March 16th, 2007, 9:39 pm

Honda all the way.......... if you cant afford it well buy a Nissan

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Postby wagonrunner » March 16th, 2007, 9:59 pm

299 wrote:which NA 1600 cc engine nissan build could mke specs like this stock
B16A SiR II
Displacement (cc): 1595
Power (bhp@rpm): 170@7600
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 116@7000
Compression Ratio: 10.4:1
Bore (mm): 81
Stroke (mm): 77.4
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 1
Year(s) Produced: 1992-1995

hmm, there's this one..............
SR16VE
Displacement, cc: 1596
Power (bhp@rpm): 172@7800
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 119@7200
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Engine type: Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information: NEOVVL
Fuel system: NISSAN EGI (ECCS) (electronic gasoline injection)
Turbocharger: No
Bore, mm 86
Stroke, mm 68.7
VTEC?: HELL NO!! :lol:

yuh beleive 1cc make all that difference? :rofl:

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Postby Dave » March 16th, 2007, 11:30 pm

^^thank u wagon man

anyways, both engines have lots of respect cause they have proven themselves time and time again
excellent specimens of Japan engineering and technology

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Postby pimptacular » March 17th, 2007, 1:35 am

i saw this on tuner once: " If NISMO stands for nissan motorsports, what does HOMO stand for?".... :lol: :lol:[/quote]

i want to dead :lol: :lol:

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Postby 3stagevtec » March 17th, 2007, 3:20 am

wagonrunner wrote:hmm, there's this one..............
SR16VE
Displacement, cc: 1596
Power (bhp@rpm): 172@7800
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 119@7200
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Engine type: Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information: NEOVVL
Fuel system: NISSAN EGI (ECCS) (electronic gasoline injection)
Turbocharger: No
Bore, mm 86
Stroke, mm 68.7
VTEC?: HELL NO!! :lol:

yuh beleive 1cc make all that difference? :rofl:


here's my reply...

B16B
VTEC
Found in:
1997-2000 Civic Type-R
Displacement: 1595 cm³
Compression: 10.8:1
Power: 185 hp (137 kW) @ 8200 rpm & 118 ft·lbf (160 N·m) @ 7500 rpm
Transmission: S4C With LSD

and with 1cc less too...

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Postby eitech » March 17th, 2007, 9:47 am

stupes, my b15 passin any honda any day :mrgreen: . and dais stock.

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Postby pimptacular » March 17th, 2007, 10:07 am

eitech?? any honda u say? wa bout ah nsx? :|

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Postby Empress » March 17th, 2007, 11:21 am

wagonrunner wrote:how does the stock nissan SR16VE compare to the stock Honda B16a?


Now we talkin about a comparison... ppl want to compare 1.8 agaist 2L but its all about the different technologies involved... if you comparing b18 with sr18 and both are non vtec /vvl and depending on which cars they're in etc then i can say fair is fair...

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Postby Zh@ne » March 17th, 2007, 2:38 pm

eitech wrote:stupes, my b15 passin any honda any day :mrgreen: . and dais stock.


nice to live in a dream world..lol!

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Postby Chiney » March 17th, 2007, 4:06 pm

honda cars are paper.. they are damn light...thats another factor there..

remember the time..cant remember how long back.. that there were 9 crashes one after de other.. with like 1-2 weeks intervals which they all were civics..

and all of dem fold up like paper...

accordin to honda men ( more boys to me )....

" eh i buy ah civic u know"
* so wat?*
" jed it REAL fass.. and i jus install ah muffler there.. REAL PACE "

um..ok ?

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Postby 10-01 » March 17th, 2007, 7:28 pm

^^^^^^ *stupes* wat u does drive ?

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Postby kes_vtec » March 17th, 2007, 8:09 pm

3stagevtec wrote:
wagonrunner wrote:hmm, there's this one..............
SR16VE
Displacement, cc: 1596
Power (bhp@rpm): 172@7800
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 119@7200
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Engine type: Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information: NEOVVL
Fuel system: NISSAN EGI (ECCS) (electronic gasoline injection)
Turbocharger: No
Bore, mm 86
Stroke, mm 68.7
VTEC?: HELL NO!! :lol:

yuh beleive 1cc make all that difference? :rofl:


here's my reply...

B16B
VTEC
Found in:
1997-2000 Civic Type-R
Displacement: 1595 cm³
Compression: 10.8:1
Power: 185 hp (137 kW) @ 8200 rpm & 118 ft·lbf (160 N·m) @ 7500 rpm
Transmission: S4C With LSD

and with 1cc less too...

wait that is not the same motor that nissan could only make 1000 of?
and honda make how many b16b????

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Postby Chiney » March 18th, 2007, 1:06 am

299 wrote:^^^^^^ *stupes* wat u does drive ?


A32 cifero..

NISSAN BEYOTCH !!

:lol: :lol:

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Postby Chiney » March 18th, 2007, 1:07 am

wait that is not the same motor that nissan could only make 1000 of?
and honda make how many b16b????

kes...


run away na !

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Postby eitech » March 18th, 2007, 1:14 am

buh to allyuh luck, i care bout myself and others on da roads so i doh condone dat kinda madness on d road. i drive safely

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Postby 3stagevtec » March 18th, 2007, 1:39 am

Reliability anyone...

Mercury, Mazda, break into top-10 rank; Infiniti, Chevrolet plunge in standings

Yonkers, NY – Consumer Reports’ largest Annual Car Reliability Survey ranks Lexus in first place for predicted reliability of its 2006 models among 36 nameplates from domestic, European, and Asian automakers. Lexus was in second place last year behind Scion in CR’s survey.

Honda moved into second place, from fifth, and Toyota remained unchanged in third place. Mitsubishi ranked fourth, up from seventh overall, and Subaru ranked in fifth place, down one in the standings from last year.

Predicted reliability for both Mercury and Mazda models moved sharply higher. Mercury is now ranked in eighth place, up from 16th last year; it’s the only domestic manufacturer to break into the top-10 in the standings. Mazda was up eight places as well and finished in ninth, behind Mercury.

Infiniti, which has traditionally been known for making vehicles with outstanding reliability, plunged 20 places in the standings, dropping to 28th from eighth. Its QX56 was the most unreliable vehicle among new cars. Scion dropped from first place last year to seventh this year. Volvo moved up 10 places to 12th overall, and Mini moved up eighteen places, to 11th overall.

Among domestic manufacturers, Chevrolet dropped to 24th, down from 13th last year. Chrysler moved up to 15th place from 20th in 2005, and Jeep dropped five places to 19th. Ford dropped to 16th place from 15th, and Dodge moved up three places to 18th overall.

Porsche placed dead last in the rankings, at 36th overall, down from 26th last year based solely on the problematic Cayenne SUV.

Predicted reliability findings and a five-year reliability trend story are published in Consumer Reports’ Annual April Auto Issue, which goes on sale beginning Tuesday, March 7. The Auto Issue will be available wherever magazines are sold and may also be ordered online at www.ConsumerReports.org. Free highlights from the April Auto Issue are available at www.ConsumerReports.org/autos2006.

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Postby Chiney » March 18th, 2007, 1:53 am

3stagevtec wrote:Reliability anyone...

Mercury, Mazda, break into top-10 rank; Infiniti, Chevrolet plunge in standings

Yonkers, NY – Consumer Reports’ largest Annual Car Reliability Survey ranks Lexus in first place for predicted reliability of its 2006 models among 36 nameplates from domestic, European, and Asian automakers. Lexus was in second place last year behind Scion in CR’s survey.

Honda moved into second place, from fifth, and Toyota remained unchanged in third place. Mitsubishi ranked fourth, up from seventh overall, and Subaru ranked in fifth place, down one in the standings from last year.


lets stick to trinidad.....
Predicted reliability for both Mercury and Mazda models moved sharply higher. Mercury is now ranked in eighth place, up from 16th last year; it’s the only domestic manufacturer to break into the top-10 in the standings. Mazda was up eight places as well and finished in ninth, behind Mercury.

Infiniti, which has traditionally been known for making vehicles with outstanding reliability, plunged 20 places in the standings, dropping to 28th from eighth. Its QX56 was the most unreliable vehicle among new cars. Scion dropped from first place last year to seventh this year. Volvo moved up 10 places to 12th overall, and Mini moved up eighteen places, to 11th overall.

Among domestic manufacturers, Chevrolet dropped to 24th, down from 13th last year. Chrysler moved up to 15th place from 20th in 2005, and Jeep dropped five places to 19th. Ford dropped to 16th place from 15th, and Dodge moved up three places to 18th overall.

Porsche placed dead last in the rankings, at 36th overall, down from 26th last year based solely on the problematic Cayenne SUV.

Predicted reliability findings and a five-year reliability trend story are published in Consumer Reports’ Annual April Auto Issue, which goes on sale beginning Tuesday, March 7. The Auto Issue will be available wherever magazines are sold and may also be ordered online at www.ConsumerReports.org. Free highlights from the April Auto Issue are available at www.ConsumerReports.org/autos2006.

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Postby 3stagevtec » March 18th, 2007, 2:00 am

Chiney wrote:honda cars are paper.. they are damn light...thats another factor there..

remember the time..cant remember how long back.. that there were 9 crashes one after de other.. with like 1-2 weeks intervals which they all were civics..

and all of dem fold up like paper...


since when being light has anything to do with safety.. Honda vehicles are structurally sound and has high safety ratings! do a search and you will see how well Honda's are rated when it comes to safety

the reason why they "fold up like paper" is because they were designed that way. The car crushes under impact to absorb the crash energy or momentum and thus reduces the impact its passengers will feel. in other words, they fold up like paper to save your life...

and there's nothin wrong with that IMO :wink:
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Postby Chiney » March 18th, 2007, 3:09 am

^^ as i can clearly see..

all dem nissan men in de thread jus leff allyuh hornda fellahs to blab and go on and on and on...

likewise.. i will stop here..

waste of time..

cyar tie ah cow near grass and expect it not to eat it....

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Postby SR » March 18th, 2007, 7:20 am

^^

just as all the real honda men leave you to blab as well

:mrgreen:

nissans interior quality has always been simple and cheapish looking compared to most other vehicles in its class from other manufacturers

think about it

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Postby De Dragon » March 18th, 2007, 10:49 am

lastminuteaudio wrote:i saw this on tuner once: " If NISMO stands for nissan motorsports, what does HOMO stand for?".... :lol: :lol:

Wouldn't it be HONMO?
Honda engines are way more expensive if you are looking at stock eg a b16 with box is gonna set you back 12-16K while a Nissan SR20DE/T will be 4K/8K Average. Honda's have more bolt on/aftermarket mods. I agree with Nissan if going RWD though. It all depends on what you want speed/reliability/inexpensive etc.

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Postby ilovebeti » March 18th, 2007, 10:49 am

true.................

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Postby Zh@ne » March 18th, 2007, 12:14 pm

People have different views on cars: it is just human nature to be attracted to one more than the other.
Hence the reason why there are so many car manufactures .... remember you always have a choice :D

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Postby madcoolieboy » March 18th, 2007, 12:23 pm

I'd go with Nissan........ cuz you could still take a nissan engine put it in something with considerable weight and it will still move..... unlike honda engines that designed to move styrofoam civics.......

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Postby Dragsta » March 18th, 2007, 1:37 pm

the reason why they "fold up like paper" is because they were designed that way. The car crushes under impact to absorb the crash energy or momentum and thus reduces the impact its passengers will feel. in other words, they fold up like paper to save your life...

so iz da why hondas are so famous for crashing and killing ppl :oops:

wait that is not the same motor that nissan could only make 1000 of?
and honda make how many b16b????

:? :roll: :roll:




NISSAN ppl, admit it, hondas are the FASTEST....so if u have a NIssan and u see a honda......Stay as Far away as possible...bcause they are REAl REAl Fasss........





to run offf d road :twisted: :twisted:

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Postby ilovebeti » March 18th, 2007, 2:10 pm

quick question.......if a stock b14 and a stock civic of d same age was to race...who would most likely win? i'm not biased towards any brand........just wud like to know....

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Postby Dragsta » March 18th, 2007, 2:13 pm

^^
hondas are the FASTEST

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Postby 3stagevtec » March 18th, 2007, 11:13 pm

Dragsta wrote:
the reason why they "fold up like paper" is because they were designed that way. The car crushes under impact to absorb the crash energy or momentum and thus reduces the impact its passengers will feel. in other words, they fold up like paper to save your life...

so iz da why hondas are so famous for crashing and killing ppl :oops:


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Postby type_r_teggy » March 19th, 2007, 8:09 am

come on, this argument pointless
sr16ve=sheit
kno a guy wit 1 in his B14 he was yet to win a race... lol
hey guys.. drove a B14 wit a SR20 wit VVL d other day
this is serious, plenty torque at low rpm but NOTHIN after say 5000 rpm
i thought sumting was wrong, owner said that's how it is.... very disappointed
next point
hav u ever seen any Best motoring video wit any sr20 front wheel drive car?????
everybody knows dat it's sheit...
CHEAP SPEED
as i said FWD=honda all d way....

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