T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[kamakazi]

Usually a combination of a couple of things.

High heat(more engine, less climate), lower oil viscosity, how the vehicle is driven, engine built with looser tolerance (piston rings).

Dipstick's E to F usually indicate 1 quart of oil for vehicles with a capacity of less than 5 quarts.

[agent007]

Oh thanks bro. The dipstick part I was not aware of. Then my 2/3 empty calculation is inaccurate.

[Pirate]

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/02/ki ... fire-risk/

"Hyundai and Kia have issued a recall for nearly 485,000 SUVs (and a handful of sedans) due to the risk of engine bay fires, warning owners to park the vehicles outside until the repair work has been completed."

[zando]

For all the Tucson turbo owners out there, observe the photo attached. Vehicle in question is a 2017 Tucson turbo 1.6 T-GDi with 7DCT transmission. The vehicle is doing 41,200kms and has been strictly maintained by Massy Motors. It has been through 8 service cycles.

Observe the color of the dipstick which shows the internal carbon and gum built up as a result of having direct injection with a turbocharger. Also observe the oil color. The oil smells burnt and 66% of the oil is gone. There are no leaks. So what's wrong here guys?

Massy claims they have been putting 5W-30 in the Tucson.

So are these issues attributed to the cheap oil they are putting inside the engine? Is it our heat and dust and stop and go traffic? Is it our fuel?

I would like owners of vehicles equipped with small turbocharged engines to pm me with pics of oil level and indicate make, model and year of the vehicle in question so that we can see what are possible trends etc, thanks.

Cruze 1.4t
About 61,000km.

Serviced at lsm every 6 months, used to be every 3 but since covid I extended it since I work from home now, they seem to have extended it also as they scheduled me for a another 6 months themselves as last time I serviced was last year October I think, and they have me scheduled for March.

Oil they use used to be acdelco oil but they switched to Mobil 1 at the last service (not sure why, availability?), honestly from since I got the car I've always been impressed with how clean the oil stays on this car, it never gets dirty for some reason and I usually check it every month or so going on 5 years.

[agent007]

Impressive Zando.....really impressive! Thanks for sharing, I saved the pic.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

All electric Hyundai Kona coming soon to Massy Motors

[agent007]

^^Zando already drop that info here, the price is expected to be $395k. Good luck with that one Massy!

[carluva]

Good morning folks.

Does anyone have the latest breakdown on the cost calculations/breakdowns for vehicles (ICE, HV and EV) which includes CIF, Customs Duties, MVT and VAT?

Cannot seem to locate any up tp date information on the web. If anyone can send a link to the act, this will be great.

Thanks.

[2WNBoost]

Hyundai and Kia tell owners of nearly 500,000 vehicles to park outside due to fire risk

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNN Business
Updated 1934 GMT (0334 HKT) February 8, 2022

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/business/hyundai-kia-fire-recall/index.html

(CNN)Hyundai and Kia are telling owners of almost 500,000 cars and SUVs in the United States to park outside and away from buildings due to a possible defect that can cause the vehicles to spontaneously catch fire even when not running.

The problem is that, due to "foreign contaminants," the anti-lock brake computer control module can short circuit and possibly start a fire in the engine compartment. Hyundai issued a recall for 2016-2018 model year Santa Fe SUVs, 2017-2018 Santa Fe Sport SUVs, 2019 Santa Fe XL models and 2014-2015 Tucson SUVs. Kia is recalling 2016-2018 K900 sedans and 2014-2016 Sportage SUVs. In total, Hyundai is recallng 357,830 vehicles while Kia is recalling 126,747.

Dealers will inspect the vehicles' anti-lock braking control module, a small computer system that controls the vehicle's emergency anti-lock braking system, and may replace it with a new one. Dealers will also replace a fuse that controls the electric current to the anti-lock braking control unit at no cost to owners. The new fuse will reduce the amount of power going into the module.

South Korean automakers Hyundai and Kia are closely related. Hyundai Motor Group, Hyundai's parent company, owns a controlling interest in Kia, and the two companies share a lot of engineering in their various models. In the United States, however, they operate as two entirely separate companies.

In documents filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Kia said it is aware of three vehicles that have caught fire. The companies also said owners could safely continue driving the vehicles, but they should be parked away from any buildings or structures.

Kia owners who think their vehicle might be involved can contact a Kia dealer or the company's customer service department. Owners can also check NHTSA's auto safety website.

** Unsure if local models are also affected

[2WNBoost]

All electric Hyundai Kona coming soon to Massy Motors

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[carluva]

Anyone here recently bought a new vehicle from the firm and care to share with us the cost breakdown?

I am curious to see the showroom price prior to MVT and VAT.

My friend in Australia has been chatting with me about how expensive vehicles are in Australia, but they are still wayy cheaper than they are here.

Trying to see whether there is alignment between the pre tax prices here vs the pre tax prices in Aus.

Hence my earlier question.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Anyone here recently bought a new vehicle from the firm and care to share with us the cost breakdown?

I am curious to see the showroom price prior to MVT and VAT.

My friend in Australia has been chatting with me about how expensive vehicles are in Australia, but they are still wayy cheaper than they are here.

Trying to see whether there is alignment between the pre tax prices here vs the pre tax prices in Aus.

Hence my earlier question.

Just some examples:
City CNG
Showroom price: TT$153,860.89
M.V.T. $5,988.00
VAT $19,981.11
Registration & Admin $120.00
List price: $179,950.00

Sportero 2.4L 4x4 Automatic leather
Showroom price: TT$318,232.78
M.V.T. $6,105.00
VAT $40,542.22
Registration & Admin $120.00
List price: $365,000.00
(There is a special right now at $350,000.00)

[nick639v2]

Just saw some vids on the new Elantra N… it’s weird looking and I love it!!! Wonder if that will touch down

[PariaMan]

Just saw some vids on the new Elantra N… it’s weird looking and I love it!!! Wonder if that will touch down

For sure

[lalloboy101]

For all the Tucson turbo owners out there, observe the photo attached. Vehicle in question is a 2017 Tucson turbo 1.6 T-GDi with 7DCT transmission. The vehicle is doing 41,200kms and has been strictly maintained by Massy Motors. It has been through 8 service cycles.

Observe the color of the dipstick which shows the internal carbon and gum built up as a result of having direct injection with a turbocharger. Also observe the oil color. The oil smells burnt and 66% of the oil is gone. There are no leaks. So what's wrong here guys?

Massy claims they have been putting 5W-30 in the Tucson.

So are these issues attributed to the cheap oil they are putting inside the engine? Is it our heat and dust and stop and go traffic? Is it our fuel?

I would like owners of vehicles equipped with small turbocharged engines to pm me with pics of oil level and indicate make, model and year of the vehicle in question so that we can see what are possible trends etc, thanks.20220207_230955.jpg

2018 FL Tucson, mileage 27,xxxkms. Last service was September 2021 outside firm as warranty expired in march of 2021. Oil used by firm was mineral oil, Oil used on last service was 5w30 fully syn mobil 1 with oem filter.This is what the oil looks like a few minutes ago, next service is March 2022. Vehicle is hardly driven and rarely reaches 5k before a service, I had the unfortunate experience of having the gearbox replaced in december of 2020, before my warranty expired.

[zando]

For all the Tucson turbo owners out there, observe the photo attached. Vehicle in question is a 2017 Tucson turbo 1.6 T-GDi with 7DCT transmission. The vehicle is doing 41,200kms and has been strictly maintained by Massy Motors. It has been through 8 service cycles.

Observe the color of the dipstick which shows the internal carbon and gum built up as a result of having direct injection with a turbocharger. Also observe the oil color. The oil smells burnt and 66% of the oil is gone. There are no leaks. So what's wrong here guys?

Massy claims they have been putting 5W-30 in the Tucson.

So are these issues attributed to the cheap oil they are putting inside the engine? Is it our heat and dust and stop and go traffic? Is it our fuel?

I would like owners of vehicles equipped with small turbocharged engines to pm me with pics of oil level and indicate make, model and year of the vehicle in question so that we can see what are possible trends etc, thanks.20220207_230955.jpg

2018 FL Tucson, mileage 27,xxxkms. Last service was September 2021 outside firm as warranty expired in march of 2021. Oil used by firm was mineral oil, Oil used on last service was 5w30 fully syn mobil 1 with oem filter.This is what the oil looks like a few minutes ago, next service is March 2022. Vehicle is hardly driven and rarely reaches 5k before a service, I had the unfortunate experience of having the gearbox replaced in december of 2020, before my warranty expired.

Looks like that oil is breaking down in the engine, the Tucson uses 5w-30? I'd change the oil before March and try a different brand like Amsoil for e.g. as far as I know Amsoil works well with turbo charged engines, especially engines that are direct injected.

[ProtonPowder]

That engine oil looks fine, just in line with synthetic oil after a little bit of mileage.

The important bit is not to drive hard then park up with a hot turbo, and drive the car with the oil at full operating temp once in a while to get all the moisture out. With these turbo GDI cars the oil has to be changed right on time or mileage, but the oil looks fine.

[Dave]

Hyundai has developed specific oil for GDI turbo charged engines and it is available locally if one wishes to stick to what the manufacturer recommends.
219-4645 has Hyundai engine oil.

[drchaos]

Hyundai Kona Electric
Retail price in the UK lowest grade without road tax and VAT is 24,842 pounds
Retail price for the highest grade without road tax and VAT is 30,467.
https://www.hyundai.co.uk/new-cars/kona-electric

Those prices listed above means thats the price plus the dealer profit and shipping. Which means thats what our cars should be selling here for since we also have no taxes.
Which means massy REAL diggin out we eye.

When the Ioniq hybrid had no taxes in T&T our prices were actually lower than the UK prices by around 2000 pounds.

[lalloboy101]

Hyundai has developed specific oil for GDI turbo charged engines and it is available locally if one wishes to stick to what the manufacturer recommends.
219-4645 has Hyundai engine oil.

Thanks Dave, will give them a call

[lalloboy101]

That engine oil looks fine, just in line with synthetic oil after a little bit of mileage.

The important bit is not to drive hard then park up with a hot turbo, and drive the car with the oil at full operating temp once in a while to get all the moisture out. With these turbo GDI cars the oil has to be changed right on time or mileage, but the oil looks fine.

Thanks Proton , the vehicle isnt driven much tho, mostly on weekends for a north south run. Is there any recommended fuel additive that can be used, i was advised to use liquid moly at every fill up

[agent007]

In Australia, the cost of a fully loaded 2022 Mazda CX-5 Akera 2.5T awd is $55,000. AUD. A primary school teacher yearly gross income is $89,593.

The CX5 is 61% the gross yearly salary of said primary school teacher.

In Blessed T&T, the cost of a fully loaded 2022 Mazda CX-5 2.0 2wd is $361,000 TTD. A primary school teacher yearly gross income is $132,000. TTD

On the flipside, a primary school teacher yearly gross income here is roughly 37% the cost of a "fully loaded" CX5 which pales in comparison to the true fully loaded available in Australia.

Put another way, in Australia, a primary school teacher after collecting 8 gross monthly salaries would have surpassed the cost price of the CX5 Akera.

Whereas in T&T, our primary school teacher after collecting 33 salaries would have finally caught up to the purchase price of our "fully loaded".

Let me know if I'm wrong here...anyone for that matter.

Anyone here recently bought a new vehicle from the firm and care to share with us the cost breakdown?

I am curious to see the showroom price prior to MVT and VAT.

My friend in Australia has been chatting with me about how expensive vehicles are in Australia, but they are still wayy cheaper than they are here.

Trying to see whether there is alignment between the pre tax prices here vs the pre tax prices in Aus.

Hence my earlier question.

[agent007]

For all the Tucson turbo owners out there, observe the photo attached. Vehicle in question is a 2017 Tucson turbo 1.6 T-GDi with 7DCT transmission. The vehicle is doing 41,200kms and has been strictly maintained by Massy Motors. It has been through 8 service cycles.

Observe the color of the dipstick which shows the internal carbon and gum built up as a result of having direct injection with a turbocharger. Also observe the oil color. The oil smells burnt and 66% of the oil is gone. There are no leaks. So what's wrong here guys?

Massy claims they have been putting 5W-30 in the Tucson.

So are these issues attributed to the cheap oil they are putting inside the engine? Is it our heat and dust and stop and go traffic? Is it our fuel?

I would like owners of vehicles equipped with small turbocharged engines to pm me with pics of oil level and indicate make, model and year of the vehicle in question so that we can see what are possible trends etc, thanks.20220207_230955.jpg

2018 FL Tucson, mileage 27,xxxkms. Last service was September 2021 outside firm as warranty expired in march of 2021. Oil used by firm was mineral oil, Oil used on last service was 5w30 fully syn mobil 1 with oem filter.This is what the oil looks like a few minutes ago, next service is March 2022. Vehicle is hardly driven and rarely reaches 5k before a service, I had the unfortunate experience of having the gearbox replaced in december of 2020, before my warranty expired.

I find your oil looks good. Looking like it slightly over filled too but that may be the angle. Try Amsoil Signature Series 5W-30 if you want to go longer intervals.

Oh and fuel additives in a DI engine is a gimmick. I could be wrong but how does this additive get to your intake valves? Seems like something to mess up your PCV. Seafoam is a better alternative so I was told.

[agent007]

Hyundai has developed specific oil for GDI turbo charged engines and it is available locally if one wishes to stick to what the manufacturer recommends.
219-4645 has Hyundai engine oil.

Are you referring to Hyundai Xteer? Cause that is based off of Shell Helix base stock. Need some more info on this so I can compare it against Amsoil.

[wingnut]

In Australia, the cost of a fully loaded 2022 Mazda CX-5 Akera 2.5T awd is $55,000. AUD. A primary school teacher yearly gross income is $89,593.

The CX5 is 61% the gross yearly salary of said primary school teacher.

In Blessed T&T, the cost of a fully loaded 2022 Mazda CX-5 2.0 2wd is $361,000 TTD. A primary school teacher yearly gross income is $132,000. TTD

On the flipside, a primary school teacher yearly gross income here is roughly 37% the cost of a "fully loaded" CX5 which pales in comparison to the true fully loaded available in Australia.

Put another way, in Australia, a primary school teacher after collecting 8 gross monthly salaries would have surpassed the cost price of the CX5 Akera.

Whereas in T&T, our primary school teacher after collecting 33 salaries would have finally caught up to the purchase price of our "fully loaded".

Let me know if I'm wrong here...anyone for that matter.

Anyone here recently bought a new vehicle from the firm and care to share with us the cost breakdown?

I am curious to see the showroom price prior to MVT and VAT.

My friend in Australia has been chatting with me about how expensive vehicles are in Australia, but they are still wayy cheaper than they are here.

Trying to see whether there is alignment between the pre tax prices here vs the pre tax prices in Aus.

Hence my earlier question.

That's why car loans are now 8 years, I'm expecting 10 year loans in the near future

[Dave]

Yes and yes.
I also am seeing Honda engine oils being sold abundantly. They also have seem to move from Exxon as their supplier. Won't be surprised if Shell also got the contract.

Most times when car makers have problems with their mechanicals requiring fluid they come out with a specific fluid for it.

I am an Amsoil reseller and user since it was launched back in Trinidad after taking a long hiatus and would be wrong to say I would ever recommend something over Amsoil.

Hyundai has developed specific oil for GDI turbo charged engines and it is available locally if one wishes to stick to what the manufacturer recommends.
219-4645 has Hyundai engine oil.

Are you referring to Hyundai Xteer? Cause that is based off of Shell Helix base stock. Need some more info on this so I can compare it against Amsoil.

[Rory Phoulorie]

I find your oil looks good. Looking like it slightly over filled too but that may be the angle. Try Amsoil Signature Series 5W-30 if you want to go longer intervals.

It's one thing to change the brand of oil to go longer intervals between oil changes, but you have to also consider whether the oil filter can remain effective during the longer interval.

I use Amsoil oil (bought from Dave) in my car with a Mobil 1 extended life oil filter. I go for 10,000km between oil changes. But my car has a normally aspirated engine. I used to use Bosch Distance Plus extended life oil filters for the past few years, but I am no longer getting that brand of oil filter for my car, so I switched to the Mobil 1 extended life oil filter.

[agent007]

Okay thanks guys. It appears I was living under a rock...I never knew Dave was an Amsoil reseller. All these years I buying amsoil religiously by nearby car parts places when Dave coulda link a bess price? Nah man. One of our vehicles just concluded its warranty with massy, I will be in touch privately.

Rory, I used FRAM Ultra Synthetic for longer intervals (10k and more) with no issues in the past but genuine OEM filters can go 15k easy easy especially if the motor had amsoil in the last drain out.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Check the electric vehicle prices on this website
https://www.ttsmartenergy.com/

Nissan Leaf Standard- $295,845 TTD,
Mid range - $300,810 TTD,
Long range -$354,358 TTD
Average range of cars -239 Miles

Nissan Ariya Standard - $380,243 TTD,
Mid Range - $500,416 TTD,
Long Range - $513,704 TTD
Average Range - 223 miles to 310 miles

Tesla Model 3 Standard- $360,000 TTD
Average Range - 315 - 358 Miles

Tesla Model X - $922,500 TTD
Average Range - 351 miles

Tesla Model Y - $420,000 TTD
Average Range - 303- 330 Miles

Mazda MX 30 - $321,836 TTD
Average Range - 100 miles

Honda E - $321,836 TTD
Average Range - 137 miles

Subaru Soltera - $354,358 TTD (available from September 2022)
Average Range - 220 Miles

Audi E tron Standard - $420,066 TTD,
Mid range - $461,881 TTD,
Long Range - $479,801 TTD
Average Range -222 - 373 Miles

Audi E Tron SUV - $643,075 TTD
Average Range - 222 miles

Lexus UX 300 e c - $407,456 TTD
Average Range - 196 Miles

Lexus UX 300 e L - $443,960 TTD
Average Range - 196 miles

Mercedes EQC SUV - $659,668 TTD
Average Range - 255 miles

Audi e-Tron Quattro - $895,000 TTD
Average Range - 180 miles

Audi e-Tron RS - $605,000 TTD
Average Range - 180 Miles

Porshe Taycan - $930,000 TTD
Average Range - 225 Miles

BMW i3 -$394,181 TTD
Average Range - 153 Miles

BMW i3 SUV - $594,624
Average Range - 153 miles

BMW IX SUV - $690,863 TTD
Average Range - 300 miles

[ProtonPowder]

Are these foreign used or brand new EV prices?