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Letter to TTASA from Sheldon Bissessar & PTRT - UPDATE!

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » January 30th, 2008, 10:33 pm

The following is a letter sent to TTASA's President, Jameer Ali:

January 30, 2008

To: Jameer Ali – President / Trinidad & Tobago Automobile Association
From: Sheldon Bissessar/ Party Time Racing Team
Re: Recommendations for race surface preparation

A visual inspection of the surface seems to indicate that there is possibly just 20 to 25 percent of the required surface contact. This is very inadequate for any form of drag racing, not to mention safety concerns, therefore some remedial work is required.

The following are the most cost effective measures that could be implemented to improve the current state of the surface, thereby increasing traction and addressing some safety concerns.

Recommendations:
    • Roll entire track (steamroller) including burnout area – this would crush high points so as to establish a flatter surface.
    • Pressure wash entire track so as to remove all debris and contaminants.
    • Apply bitumastic cold tar epoxy to burnout launch pad and 200 feet of running surface. This is an attempt to fill small voids on surface thereby increasing surface contact.
    • Apply traction compound to coated surface.
    • Drag tyres so as to apply a thin layer of rubber.
    • Application of traction compound and tyre dragging should be repeated a few times.

Regards
Sheldon Bissessar & PTRT


The Party Time Race Team would like to get the input of ALL racers regarding any concerns they may have on the track.

On Wednesday 30th January 2008 at 5pm a team including Competitoin Chairman Nizam Mohammed of TTASA and PTRT went members to Camden to test an 8'x8' area with the bitumastic cold tar epoxy. Stay tuned for the results.

It is the view of Sheldon and the PTRT that racers come out to these events with nothing more to gain than bragging rights and maybe a trophy from the promoters and they should be ensured a certain level of safety when racing their high powered vehicles. With this is mind, this thread is open to any suggestions from other racers and those involved in drag racing at Camden.

Please note this is not an opportunity to rant - only objective and positive remarks and suggestions, which will help improve the surface and safety of the upcoming drag racing events, will be entertained.
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Re: Letter to TTASA from Sheldon Bissessar & PTRT

Postby X2 » January 30th, 2008, 10:55 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:It is the view of Sheldon and the PTRT that racers come out to these events with nothing more to gain than bragging rights and maybe a trophy from the promoters and they should be ensured a certain level of safety when racing their high powered vehicles. With this is mind, this thread is open to any suggestions from other racers and those involved in drag racing at Camden.



Much appreciation to Party Time racing for offering their professional opinion !!

I for one am very glad that a professional racing team recognizes the importance of the preparation for both pro and enthusiast alike. This type of preparation should be great for safety and E.T.s.

Only question is how does this affect the runway safety ? Also how much time is left on the agreement to get this done.... are they looking at this possibility being done by the next official event if the recommendations are agreed upon ?

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Postby Sinister_Audio » January 31st, 2008, 1:28 am

wow...
BESS info there!
hope it all works out and i hope they can implement it asap

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Postby cacasplat3 » January 31st, 2008, 2:14 am

being an airstrip how much of what he is proposing can actually be allowed?????.......it is a great move by SB to share his concerns and advice.........but at the end of the day it still dosent belong to TTASA, so they just cant do what they want to.......they would have to get advice from the operators of the strip........

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Postby MANIAC » January 31st, 2008, 9:16 am

Also, seeing that they are planning to have Circuit Racing as well .... Isn't there an impact with regards to Trackbite being sprayed and Circuit Cars racing ?? ...

However, personally, I prefer the full preparation of the Track for Drag Racing .... Camden is too small to hold both Circuit & Drag Racing in my opinion ....

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Postby JWT » January 31st, 2008, 9:55 am

TTASA was told from since the first drag event that the surface needs to be pressure washed and to date nothing done

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Postby zaxxon1 » January 31st, 2008, 10:55 am

Hey Duane, the guys did go up and put down a test piece of the compound. They still have to put trackbite on it and test it out, maybe tonight or tomorrow with a car. They may try the un-coated surface first then the treated surface. Sheldon has a few pics to send to you when he downloads them. I took one with my phone but it was too dark. You cannot see the effect properly. I will post it to let people know that the drivers are working on something to make the track better. Remember, this is only a trial until full authorization is given so expect some red tape. If this works we will have a solution for the higher powered cars to run. TTASA will be the ones to take the proposal to higher authorities for approval. Lets hope the support will be there.

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The lighter surface is the untreated section.

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Postby link » January 31st, 2008, 12:33 pm

I fully agree with Sheldon's observations & hope this upgrade can be done asap........additionally...if better traction is the result of all this work......how can the 'authorities' deny an obvious upgrade is this safety aspect of runway operations ???
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IMO the entire 1320 should be prepped accordingly...even landing aircraft would stop fishtailing....wishful thinking that any such assistance would be forthcoming from Min of sport........
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Postby cacasplat3 » January 31st, 2008, 1:45 pm

does trackbite get slippery when wet??

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » January 31st, 2008, 2:40 pm

here is the follow up letter from PTRT following the test area application at the Camden track:

January 31, 2008
To: Jameer Ali – President / Trinidad & Tobago Automobile Association
From: Sheldon Bissessar/ Party Time Racing Team
Re: Results of small test area

As instructed, following our discussion, Mr. Nizam Mohammed was contacted and verbal approval was granted to conduct application of product on small test area. Coal tar epoxy was installed, so as to evaluate results and to provide relevant authorities with a test piece to assess. My personal view is that the product seems to be working very favorably for its intended use. It should be noted that the ultimate recommendation would be to coat the entire track, however this is not feasible at this time, the following small but critical areas have been identified for product application.

Area 1 – 50 feet x 10 feet from starting line backwards. This will ensure proper burnout area and transfer of rubber to launch pad.
Area 2 – 75 feet x 12 feet from starting line going forward.
Area 3 – An additional 75 foot x 16 foot wide area.

From our calculations, the total area to be coated is 2600 square feet per lane. Our test indicated that 5 gallons of the product (one pail) provides coverage for approximately 100 sq. ft., therefore, 26 pails would be required per lane at a cost of $ 875.00 TTD per pail making the total cost per lane $ 22,750.00 TTD.

Estimated job duration is 3 to 4 days weather is favorable. Should procurement of the product be timely and approval granted, the Party Time Racing Team is willing to purchase the first $ 5000.00 worth of product. The team will also provide some level of expertise and labor. Some other drivers have indicated their willingness to help with some form of funding. We look forward to your favorable and timely response.

Having addressed some safety concerns, together with track preparations, the Party Time Racing Team is now recommending that one of the most critical areas of drag racing be verified; distance measurements be confirmed and certified. The team has engaged the services of a qualified government approved surveying crew equipped with a total station point – to – point via GPS. This will ensure accurate distances. Recommended points of measurements; 60ft., 660 ft, 1320 ft. and 60 ft. before 1320 ft. for speed trap. Should sensors be put in place for these distances, racecar performance evaluation and tuning would become more effective having gathered more data. The services of the surveying crew carries a cost of $ 1700.00 TTD and can be done tomorrow, 1st February, 2008.

Again, looking forward to a favorable response.

Thanks,
Party Time Racing Team


Here are some photos taken of the test area
Thanks to Zaxxon1 for pics and comments.

The first pic here is the raw track. You can see the loose uneven surface which translate into less surface contact for tires and traction.
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After cleaning the area the application of the bitumastic cold tar epoxy will build up the surface and improve the area for a tyre's contact patch.
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Postby SUPAstarr » January 31st, 2008, 2:49 pm

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Postby link » January 31st, 2008, 3:34 pm

cacasplat3 wrote:does trackbite get slippery when wet??


:shock: :shock: :mrgreen:

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Postby zaxxon1 » January 31st, 2008, 3:40 pm

I just got word from Sheldon. Update as it just came to hand is that the track bite was laid down earlier today by Flambeau and and he has indicated to Sheldon that it is very tacky and adhering good to the cold tar surface. They may go and try a car (street) on the surface tonight. The main drivers involved in this project are, Rishi, Mint, Flambeau, Sheldon and the Partytime Racing Team. This is info only and not an invitation.

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Postby cacasplat3 » January 31st, 2008, 3:45 pm

link if u know the answer then post it....... :?



i applaud the PTRT for their efforts and commitment to the development of the sport.....good to see there are ppl who genuinely care for the sport....... :P

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Postby Dragsta » January 31st, 2008, 9:12 pm

Nice, i'm really glad to see improvemant are being made :o

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Postby MANIAC » February 1st, 2008, 9:06 am

Good going ... I hope this turns out okay with the Approvals to continue the work and the Track is prepared to it finest ....

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Postby link » February 1st, 2008, 9:44 am

cacasplat3 wrote:link if u know the answer then post it....... :?



i applaud the PTRT for their efforts and commitment to the development of the sport.....good to see there are ppl who genuinely care for the sport....... :P


http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/vie ... p?t=155961

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Postby Aaron 2NR » February 1st, 2008, 12:06 pm

great work by the PTRT....spoke to one of sheldon's employees a couple weeks ago wen he came to check a job for me and he was tellin me about this....sheldon is bringin back his rail to run in trinidad but with a track not prepped properly it doesnt make sense....

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Postby MANIAC » February 1st, 2008, 2:21 pm

sheldon is bringin back his rail to run in trinidad

Yep, heard this too .... so I guess that is good news for us and hopefully we should see some more of the other High Horsepower Cars ...

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 1st, 2008, 2:30 pm

^ yup, take a lil read

[quote]Sheldon Bissessar and the PSTL/Chevron Partytime Drag Racing Team have played a significant role in trying to uplift the standard of drag racing in Trinidad and Tobago. They have set the benchmark that other racers and their teams should aspire to and have also been instrumental in the design, preparation and success of several other top local race cars. The team has dominated the sport and has been known to dictate the pace since its inception in 1987, with its debut at Wallerfield in the 17 second bracket. Sheldon, behind the wheel of a Ford 2000 Escort emerged victorious, setting precedence for approximately the next sixteen years which is evident in the accomplishments of the PSTL Partytime Drag Racing Team.

The first 10 second, 9 second, 8 second 7 second and 6 second times ever done by a local driver were all achieved by Sheldon Bissessar and his team. Low 7 second runs (7.30-7.50 e.t.) were regular feats attained since 1998. In 1999, at the Puerto Rico International Speedway, an NHRA (National Hot Rod Association) certified track, Sheldon and his team recorded the fastest time for a local driver, blistering down the quarter mile strip in 7.1 seconds at a top speed of 188 M.P.H. To date this elapsed time remains unsurpassed by any other local driver. From 1999 due to the absence of what they saw as significant competition and proper facilities, the team withdrew from active participation after setting the record at Puerto Rico.

In April 2003, the Partytime Drag Racing Team with their leader Sheldon Bissessar, re- emerged on the drag racing arena with a newly built NHRA Certified Dragster. However due to the lack of a proper facility, safety concerns and poor track conditions, the full potential of this machine could not be realized in Trinidad and Tobago. With the aim of accomplishing 6 second runs from a dragster with an excess of 2000 horsepower, there was no option but to venture to the United States to compete.

In April 2005 Sheldon and the Partytime Racing Team took a team of local racers to Curacao for their International Dragrace event. The team consisted of the Partytime rail, the Mintcars Rail. Both cars were tuned by Sheldon and his team. Sheldon was credited with the fastest time for the meeting with a time of 7.01 sec @ 200.14 mph. This was his first 200mph run. This run fast-tracked his next project.

The year 2005 saw the introduction of a newly built dragster by Sheldon Bissessar and his team. The combination included a 285 inch Spitzer Top Dragster chassis with carbon fiber mono body and rear wing powered by a 709 cubic inch all aluminum Pro-Mod motor on 3 stages of nitrous exceeding 2200 horsepower. The drive train included a 2 speed Lenco transmission, Bruno converter drive and a Coan Mega Horsepower bolt together converter. An MSD ignition system, MagnaFuel fuel system and Race Pak data acquisition system were also incorporated in this machine.

The following two years proved to be very rewarding for Sheldon Bissessar and the PSTL Partytime Drag Racing Team both in experience and performance. They participated in many international events throughout North America and despite world class competition, very impressive times were recorded and the team emerged in the top five of the qualifiers at many of these events. Six second runs became the norm at IHRA tracks such as Maryland International Raceway Maryland, New England Dragway Epping New Hampshire, Columbus Ohio and Englishtown New Jersey. The fastest run to date, 6.45 e.t. at 213 M.P.H. recorded at Rockingham Dragway in North Carolina is considered to be a world record by some racing associations.

Not forgetting their drag racing roots, their sense of patriotism and the desire to raise the level of local drag racing to that of international standards, Sheldon Bissessar and his team have decided that in 2008, the present dragster will be brought back to Trinidad & Tobago. The team believes that such a move would stimulate interest in the sport among supporters, competitors and governing bodies alike. It is hoped that renewed vigor, drive and speed would be injected into local drag racing with the introduction of high horsepower machines, offering the local drag racing fraternity an insight into what dedication, discipline and commitment can achieve. More importantly, it is also hoped that the relevant authorities would recognize the need for a proper drag racing facility in Trinidad and Tobago, allowing the full potential of racers and their machines to be realized. The Partytime RacingTeam is of the opinion that this country is capable of producing race cars that can compete and win internationally.

For North American competition, a new project is in the foundation stages with an estimated completion date of March 2008 in time for an appearance at the IHRA Spring Nationals in San Antonio, Texas. This machine is an all out 300 inch full Top Alcohol Dragster chassis, powered by a 526 cubic inch Brad Anderson Hemi motor utilizing a 1471 supercharger on alcohol. Horsepower rating of this unit will be in excess of 3300. The rear end will include a Strange 9.5 inch top loader, full floater 40 spline with carbon fiber braking assembly and the drive train will consist of a 3 speed Lenco transmission. This combination of components should produce times in the 5.80 e.t. range at approximate top speeds of 250 M.P.H. A race car of this type requires intense attention to detail. The team believes that the secret of success is truly understanding every aspect of the racecar and making use of the most advanced products and services available. A calm and professional approach at all levels; from the garage to the racetrack is a valuable asset in this highly dangerous sport. The fastest time recorded internationally for a dragster of this type is 5.83 e.t. and should Sheldon and his team surpass this time, Trinidad and Tobago will hold another world record. This is the team’s aspiration for 2008.

Sheldon and the PSTL Partytime Racing Team strongly believe that the relevant governing bodies and Ministries should cease this haphazard, unprofessional and extremely unsafe approach to drag racing. A racing facility, built to international standards and specifications, staffed with trained and qualified personnel will ensure safe, professional drag racing. Should this be unfeasible in the near future, the existing facilities should be immediately upgraded to ensure the safety of both spectators and competitors; a factor that must never be compromised. Such a venue will also offer learning opportunities for potential racers as exposure to top local and international race cars and teams could be afforded. It would act as an institution, creating the environment required for growth and developments, providing a platform for local racers to excel, compete and shatter world records, therefore guaranteeing Trinidad & Tobago a position in the international drag racing arena. As Sheldon himself once said “to become the best, you must compete with the bestâ€

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Postby SR » February 1st, 2008, 2:38 pm

good read

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 1st, 2008, 3:03 pm

UPDATE: Thanks again to Zaxxon1

This is the raw surface of the track as shown before
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This is the same area covered with the epoxy - but without prior rolling and washing.
The surface area has been improved tremendously.
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The surface is so sticky at this point that your shoes stick to the floor - you can hear it sticking in the video taht was taken yesterday evening


you can also hear someone's cell phone about to ring! :lol:

A few trial burnouts were tried on the area - here is the pic after - Zaxxon1 can perhaps give us some details on how that went
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Postby zaxxon1 » February 1st, 2008, 4:01 pm

We attempted to do some burnouts and some runs but we did not have enough power for that. The computers in our cars prevented us from loading up and releasing or even burning out. The cars did hook quickly but we did not video it (a lapse on our part). We used a civic sir with a 1600 engine and my Sonata with the 4G63 engine. On the last pic you can see two sets of tire tracks, the deeper ones are the Sonata's.
Sheldon wanted to have a car burnout on the dry then run across the test piece burning, then burnout with water before the piece then run across and finally do a burnout and launch on the piece to see how it would stand up to pressure. He may look for another car to try it out another time.

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Postby MANIAC » February 1st, 2008, 4:12 pm

^ Excellent info there Duane & Zaxxon !!!!!

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Postby shapeshop » February 1st, 2008, 4:23 pm

I think Camden Sucks!!!.....it totally blows even by Wallerfield standards ...and i say again..its too small too inaccessible to traffic, poor spectator accomodations. why do we in mototrsport fraternity keep settling for second rate crap? (Trinis as a whole apparently love it?!) Come on people..we have a minister of sport with the strongest motorsports background and yet keep getitng the shi**y end of the motorsports stick. I sponsor racers in many arenas and its sad to see what they have to endure when an event comes up. I went to Camden once and never again.....imagine having to subject your family to that......!!!! Anyway for those of you in the motorsports fraternity with bulging pockets who can do something.......think beyond and outside the mediocer box that you all are happy to survive in.

Somebody call Gary.

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Postby Maserati » February 1st, 2008, 5:16 pm

shapeshop,you quite clearly don't know what is going on. Do you expect a drag strip to be laid down over night with the snap of your fingers?
camden is all we have for now and these guys are trying to do some improvements on it.

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Re: track..

Postby X2 » February 1st, 2008, 6:19 pm

shapeshop wrote: I think Camden Sucks!!!..... I went to Camden once....



Ya... maybe you should shush and watch from the sidelines then.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 1st, 2008, 6:21 pm

keep it clean fellas

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Postby X2 » February 1st, 2008, 6:22 pm

Just keeping it real brutha....

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Postby cacasplat3 » February 2nd, 2008, 12:13 am

Duane 3NE 2NR, do u have any press releases by G. Hunt concerning a track since he was appointed minister of sport?
i would like to see what it contains if there is such a document.......

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