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D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 4th, 2014, 1:47 pm
by JesuEric
wat yall say?

lets say light bolt ons to both and the civic manual and the primera tiptronic.

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 7:13 am
by black start
the truth does hurt men ego eh.....

ibtl

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 9:23 am
by JesuEric
loll dem 1.6 does run I personally think the civic jus sooo light and that engine has enough torque to carry it to beat the primera.

But if it was a b14 or sum den yea

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 10:03 am
by abbow
First car OP?

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 10:37 am
by JesuEric
1st car is the primera....buh a guy with a D16b wa race but I never really heard about these engines jus read about them...so better I ask ppl who know lol

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 10:38 am
by turbosingh
Op yuh get licks from a Civic?

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 10:41 am
by turbosingh
JesuEric wrote:1st car is the primera....buh a guy with a D16b wa race but I never really heard about these engines jus read about them...so better I ask ppl who know lol


If its a box it will pull away on you on a short run but on the highway yuh suppose to put some distance on him.

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 11:11 am
by JesuEric
na never race a civic since so never ge stretch by one since I put in the VVL...only race a few mitsubushi a some 14s and 13s and a primera since I put in the engine buh I still have some things to do to it

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 9:11 pm
by QG
turbosingh wrote:
JesuEric wrote:1st car is the primera....buh a guy with a D16b wa race but I never really heard about these engines jus read about them...so better I ask ppl who know lol


If its a box it will pull away on you on a short run but on the highway yuh suppose to put some distance on him.



You do know that D series Honda are single cam and outputs low power up to 130hp (3 stage vtec).

If you are talking about the B series high powered twin cam engine, the B16B (182 hp)can give the SR20VVL a good match...hopefully tuned well that is lol.

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 10:07 pm
by JesuEric
QG wrote:
turbosingh wrote:
JesuEric wrote:1st car is the primera....buh a guy with a D16b wa race but I never really heard about these engines jus read about them...so better I ask ppl who know lol


If its a box it will pull away on you on a short run but on the highway yuh suppose to put some distance on him.



You do know that D series Honda are single cam and outputs low power up to 130hp (3 stage vtec).

If you are talking about the B series high powered twin cam engine, the B16B (182 hp)can give the SR20VVL a good match...hopefully tuned well that is lol.


I know for sure its a D series enginee! and wow I din know B16B had that much output I thought those B series never really crossed 165hp

I just know primera is a heavy car.

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 10:43 pm
by kamakazi
The only reason that Honda might give you trouble is because it light. .. Hondas of that era are notorious for being light and not surviving accidents
Btw for someone who hasn't heard a lot about these engines. ... Are you sure it's a D series.8-)
Don't let that hp number surprise you.... its pretty good but there are sacrifices that go along with getting that output from such a small displacement naturally aspirated engine

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 10:48 pm
by da goon
Lolol

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 11:23 pm
by JesuEric
kamakazi wrote:The only reason that Honda might give you trouble is because it light. .. Hondas of that era are notorious for being light and not surviving accidents
Btw for someone who hasn't heard a lot about these engines. ... Are you sure it's a D series.8-)
Don't let that hp number surprise you.... its pretty good but there are sacrifices that go along with getting that output from such a small displacement naturally aspirated engine


LOL ...yea sure I hear D16B cuz right after I asked u mean b16? said na D16 .....wat are the drawbacks of putting out 185 hp in a light carr??? lol

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 5th, 2014, 11:32 pm
by speedist
Aside from dying on impact if u lose control? Absolutely nothing.

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 7:30 am
by kamakazi
:smile:... sacrifices that Honda made... Nothing wrong with putting out that power in a small car
... those honda engines have little torque so they have to be geared short (numerically greater). Shorter gearing is good for acceleration bad for cruising and fuel consumption
3000 rpm to do roughly 100kph
2000 rpm in my grandmother's ae110 Corolla to do that same speed
Making the car light to help performance at the sacrifice of chassis/body strength.
Also
That max hp value is so near the redline that most of the time you don't get to use it... You also run a grater risk of destroying something at those high Rpms
Just my opinion after having owned an ek4
:smile:
Btw it's funny how one would want to compare a 1.6l engine to a 2.0l engine.... just saying
:grin:

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 8:31 am
by da goon
Lol.... u guys have so much to learn

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 8:36 am
by JesuEric
lol da goon...feel free to speak up and cool but easy thereeee the 1.6 challenge me...im pretty sure I can use the SR16 to compare power dais 1.6 for 1.6 lol

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 9:07 am
by da goon
If ur gonna compare 1.6 power compare the sr16 to the b16a or b16a not d series, they are economy engine (dseries) the focus from the manufacturer was daily economic commute but as mention before the torque output on most d series especially the 1.6zc and the 1.6y8 is relatively close to the hp out so in acceleration he will give u a run for ur money on top end u will catch up unless he chipped those sohc swings some impressive rpm when chipped n tuned properly

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 9:45 am
by JesuEric
make sense....but why do men strive on turboing those D series engine if its economical isn't it easier to just swap a B16A or B or B18C? Or are they too expensive ..

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 10:08 am
by da goon
Yessir b16a swap will run u into the 20k range installed, when u can can hop on ebay and buy a kit for 7k installation will cost about 5k including everything and u bad like crab from some months till the chinee turbo starts to leak that's when u decide whether u buy a used Garrett in the bamboo or save up again and do a complete dseries build that will be turning some heads.. my thing is Nissan men and honda men does get amped up on this rivalry and 90% not taking the time to do there builds properly to see what both sides are capable of... men just watching in magazine and buying parts...but to really answer ur question boosting a dseries is a lot of fun. And when u do it right a neither b series nor sr20 vvl ain't coming close to what u dishing out :evil:

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 10:13 am
by kamakazi
If the same amount of money is to be spent. ...I would give my vote to Nissan. ... Honda is way to expensive

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 10:35 am
by da goon
Agreed but that's only in Trinidad tho kamikaze, and I have to admit building a single cam or a 1.6 to ruff up a 2.0 is a lot of fun.... by chance was anyone of u guys present and the last drag meet by NARA for the honda show down... b18c running a 13.7 and h22 ek destroying the vvl March?

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 10:57 am
by JesuEric
nice stuff but I not boosting anytime soon right now looking for a used VVL block to take my time and rebuild and go forge .....nuh gna boost n boost for a year max.

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 11:01 am
by da goon
Yeah boost is money I'm also focused on a NA build myself

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 2:36 pm
by JesuEric
ur D15, or D16 or B16?

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 2:42 pm
by da goon
D16 non vtec

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 6:50 pm
by QG
da goon wrote:Agreed but that's only in Trinidad tho kamikaze, and I have to admit building a single cam or a 1.6 to ruff up a 2.0 is a lot of fun.... by chance was anyone of u guys present and the last drag meet by NARA for the honda show down... b18c running a 13.7 and h22 ek destroying the vvl March?



Isn't the vvl a 1.6 in that march or am I wrong?

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 6th, 2014, 7:04 pm
by da goon
Nah it's a 2.0

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 7th, 2014, 10:39 am
by JesuEric
2.0.....it had or has I believe a b14 with the 1.6 ...that...car fast

Re: D16B EG8 Civic vs SR20VE Primera

Posted: June 7th, 2014, 11:05 am
by da goon
The sr16 does work really nice in my opinion better than the 2.0