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want help turbo chargin my p11 engine
Posted: October 22nd, 2009, 9:46 am
by rboy
hey guys i have a sr20 roller rocker rngine in my b14 sentra i want to turbo charge it not looking to push alot of boost i have a t28 nissan turbo and the manifold so far what else will i need and have to do so the car will work good
Posted: October 22nd, 2009, 10:44 am
by biggreen
fuel pump,
fpr,
fuel mang, could try (an safc 2)
oil cooler,
oil lines,
u gonna have 2 tap ur block 4 oil, it better if u take it out and do it,
prob a 3 core radiator,
and most important wideband air fuel gauge, ( so u will know if it gonna blow)
fire extinguisher,
tow rope (just incase)
open out ur exhaust 2 2.5 or 3''
intercooler
boost controler
turbo timer..
and lots of time ( this may be most difficult to obtain)
Posted: October 22nd, 2009, 12:14 pm
by QG
I recommend using the 2 1/2" exhaust pipe, not 3"...unless you looking for extreme high boost(like over 20psi), then use the 3".
Posted: October 22nd, 2009, 12:31 pm
by rboy
i aint looking to go pass 8psi also studing to just get a nos kit but not not sure yet
Posted: October 22nd, 2009, 7:08 pm
by FugiTECH
you also need Turbo ECU , injectors and Air Flow, i have them if interested 292 1701
Posted: October 22nd, 2009, 7:17 pm
by 7143
wat bout internals....he wont have to change these? how much boost can the stock sr internals take before rods bend or worst?
Posted: October 22nd, 2009, 9:53 pm
by swift gti funatic
7143 wrote:wat bout internals....he wont have to change these? how much boost can the stock sr internals take before rods bend or worst?
7-10 psi
Posted: October 23rd, 2009, 1:03 am
by .:PROZAC:..
At 8 psi he is still within the limits of his MAF so his stock will work.
However the 260CC flow of the DE injectors not going to help. Luckily the side feed 370cc ones fit in your rail.
You can get a SAFC for fuel trim and a BTM for timing. Or get an emanage wiht ignition and injector harnesses.
He cannot use the DET ecu either unless he uses the DET distributor and sensors so that's jsut over kill on a low port RR.
No the RR has the same crank as the VE 4cw. With a proper tune you can get a nice 220.
I have a boosted RR on te ground. The Des habdle boost well on stock internals but take it from me, the money you're going to spend boosting it you might as well get a DET bottom end or swap one time.
I'm not trying to sell you anything btw.
The list should be
SAFC
370CCs
FPR
BTM
NPT to BSPT tee and adapter
oil feed lines and return.
1/8NPT tap for return
2.5" intercooler piping
Recirc bov.
2.5" down pipe and exhaust
Boost gauge
in tank walbro
T25/28 turbo and manifold - clocked to point down.
Here was my setup with GT28 and 480CC
Posted: October 23rd, 2009, 6:43 am
by THE SYNDICATE
.
ROZAC:.. wrote:Here was my setup with GT28 and 480CC
Hoss it looks like u have this throwing away yes..
looking good......
*thinks how this would be if it was in my ride
*
Posted: October 23rd, 2009, 8:36 am
by V2NR 3.0
biggreen wrote:fuel pump,
fpr,
fuel mang, could try (an safc 2)
oil cooler,
oil lines,
u gonna have 2 tap ur block 4 oil, it better if u take it out and do it,
prob a 3 core radiator,
and most important wideband air fuel gauge, ( so u will know if it gonna blow)
fire extinguisher,
tow rope (just incase)
open out ur exhaust 2 2.5 or 3''
intercooler
boost controler
turbo timer..
and lots of time ( this may be most difficult to obtain)
^ I have all of this - lets do it ! ! ! ! !
Posted: October 23rd, 2009, 8:37 am
by V2NR 3.0
biggreen wrote:fuel pump,
fpr,
fuel mang, could try (an safc 2)
oil cooler,
oil lines,
u gonna have 2 tap ur block 4 oil, it better if u take it out and do it,
prob a 3 core radiator,
and most important wideband air fuel gauge, ( so u will know if it gonna blow)
fire extinguisher,
tow rope (just incase)
open out ur exhaust 2 2.5 or 3''
intercooler
boost controler
turbo timer..
and lots of time ( this may be most difficult to obtain)
^ I have all of this - lets do it ! ! ! ! !
Posted: October 23rd, 2009, 8:49 am
by dry
why does one need a FPR?
Posted: October 23rd, 2009, 8:57 am
by .:PROZAC:..
Dry this is what it does take for you to make an appearance ? lol This is my rationale and I may be wrong.
3 BAR = 44 PSI, All the Nissans with Fuel Presure Regulators operate at 3 bar.
From what I get the oem SRde pump and de regulator mmaintains a 44psi whereas the det regulator is at 4bar -59psi.
If they're the same then use or oem regulator.
From Sr20forum:
Side Feed Injs
23 cc = 16 WHP
46 cc = 31 WHP
93 cc = 63 WHP
139 cc = 94 WHP
185 cc = 125 WHP * Pink GA16
231 cc = 156 WHP
259 cc = 175 WHP * Red SR20DE
278 cc = 187 WHP
324 cc = 218 WHP
333 cc = 226 WHP * Grey SR20VE
---------------------------------------------333 cc @ 4 bar = 261 WHP
370 cc = 250 WHP * Purple SR20DET
---------------------------------------------370 cc @ 4 bar = 290 WHP
416 cc = 281 WHP
444 cc = 299 WHP * Brick Brown SR20DET ( S15 )
SR20DE MAF 91-94 Sentra SER, part # 53J00
50mm 250 WHP-----------Bored 54mm 290 WHP
SR20DE MAF 91-99 200sx SER, part # 53J01
50mm 250 WHP-----------Bored 54mm 290 WHP
SR20DE MAF 00-01 Sentra SE
325 WHP
91-94 Pulsar GTIR, part # 54C00
50mm 290 WHP-----------Bored 54mm 345 WHP,
Aveneir W10 and W11, part # 54C01
50 mm 290 WHP----------Bord 54mm 345 WHP
Maxima 95-98
325 WHP
SR20VE, Pathfinder 00-04 V6, Xterra 00-04 V6, Frontier 00-04 V6, Quest V6
325 WHP
300zx and 300zx TT 90-96, part # 22680-30P00
75mm 500 WHP
Infinity J30, part # 22680-30P00
75mm 500 WHP
Posted: October 23rd, 2009, 12:31 pm
by V2NR 3.0
.ROZAC:.. wrote:Dry this is what it does take for you to make an appearance ? lol This is my rationale and I may be wrong.
3 BAR = 44 PSI, All the Nissans with Fuel Presure Regulators operate at 3 bar.
From what I get the oem SRde pump and de regulator mmaintains a 44psi whereas the det regulator is at 4bar -59psi.
If they're the same then use or oem regulator.
From Sr20forum:
Side Feed Injs
23 cc = 16 WHP
46 cc = 31 WHP
93 cc = 63 WHP
139 cc = 94 WHP
185 cc = 125 WHP * Pink GA16
231 cc = 156 WHP
259 cc = 175 WHP * Red SR20DE
278 cc = 187 WHP
324 cc = 218 WHP
333 cc = 226 WHP * Grey SR20VE
---------------------------------------------333 cc @ 4 bar = 261 WHP
370 cc = 250 WHP * Purple SR20DET
---------------------------------------------370 cc @ 4 bar = 290 WHP
416 cc = 281 WHP
444 cc = 299 WHP * Brick Brown SR20DET ( S15 )
SR20DE MAF 91-94 Sentra SER, part # 53J00
50mm 250 WHP-----------Bored 54mm 290 WHP
SR20DE MAF 91-99 200sx SER, part # 53J01
50mm 250 WHP-----------Bored 54mm 290 WHP
SR20DE MAF 00-01 Sentra SE
325 WHP
91-94 Pulsar GTIR, part # 54C00
50mm 290 WHP-----------Bored 54mm 345 WHP,
Aveneir W10 and W11, part # 54C01
50 mm 290 WHP----------Bord 54mm 345 WHP
Maxima 95-98
325 WHP
SR20VE, Pathfinder 00-04 V6, Xterra 00-04 V6, Frontier 00-04 V6, Quest V6
325 WHP
300zx and 300zx TT 90-96, part # 22680-30P00
75mm 500 WHP
Infinity J30, part # 22680-30P00
75mm 500 WHP
Correct is right
Posted: October 23rd, 2009, 12:50 pm
by dry
I in lurker mode these days
but yeah, there's no dispute about the flow rates/power levels/etc of the injectors at the various fuel pressures. I'm just wondering why change the regulator. It's the same unit for both DE and DET and both are 3-bar.
everybody always changes the regulator as if it's a requirement... and i still don't understand why.
My list:
370cc injectors
emanage blue with map sensor (keep stock ecu and maf)
turbo/manifold/piping/intercooler/recirc valve
boost gauge