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Redlines!!!
Posted: May 1st, 2007, 2:51 pm
by DJ Nexxus
can anyone tell me how you go about calculating the redline of an engine??
Posted: May 1st, 2007, 3:05 pm
by Doom
yuh doh calcualte it, it is manufacturer set
only if the head config was altered then new limits would be set
Posted: May 1st, 2007, 3:18 pm
by DJ Nexxus
alright so if you rebuild an engine, and you mod it out.....anyway to tell your redline??......
Posted: May 1st, 2007, 4:41 pm
by Tired Accord
breds - use the original stock engine redline as a guide. if you have upgraded your internals - ie - valve springs, camshaft(s), pistons, rods, etc - you should be able to carry it past the stock redline on a regular basis. I seriously doubt that there is a computation / formula to figure out this, as there are too many factors involved. You might be able to get another 1000 - 1500 rpm more with upgraded internals. Hope that helps.
Posted: May 1st, 2007, 7:55 pm
by Aaron 2NR
jus dyno the ting an see where power falls off
Posted: May 2nd, 2007, 5:56 am
by DJ Nexxus
jus dyno the ting an see where power falls off
BINGO!!!...ah thought this was the answer, just wanted to hear someone else say it!...
Thanks for D help fellas
Posted: May 2nd, 2007, 2:01 pm
by streetsleeper2
Posted: May 2nd, 2007, 2:25 pm
by DJ Nexxus
If it is me you are directecting that statement to Sleeper, I don't have an ECU in my ride.....strictly old school
Posted: May 2nd, 2007, 5:55 pm
by Samiir_Tuner
yes it would..not in all cases though but i know with certain honda engines it comes limited at 8000rpm but with the ecu chipped u can take it to 8500rpm making power all the way up
Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 7:14 am
by streetsleeper2
ok i drive an sr18 automatic lsd with slight mods nothing internal though. Would this make sense in my case. fuel cut is at 6500rpm
Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 9:46 am
by cdx2k1
It doesnt make sense increasing the redline if power just drops off in the higher range...or so it's said..but my thing is, when you shift in this higher range, you'll drop back lower down...but higher than where you would normally drop if you had the original redline..I think you should have access to more power this time as you drop..but that's just my thinking.
Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 10:17 am
by DJ Nexxus
Always ask questions
Keep this in mind as I make the following remarks, as they are not meant in any negative way.
It doesnt make sense increasing the redline if power just drops off in the higher range
Isn't the redline of your engine the line at which power begins to drop off?
when you shift in this higher range, you'll drop back lower down...but higher than where you would normally drop if you had the original redline..I think you should have access to more power this time as you drop
Yuh kinda lost me there with that one CDX, no malice intended, do you mind elaborating further?...
Oh and people...does anyone know where I can get my ride dyno'ed??? or if anyone in trinidad does it at all?
Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 12:51 pm
by cdx2k1
DJ Nexxus wrote:It doesnt make sense increasing the redline if power just drops off in the higher range...Isn't the redline of your engine the line at which power begins to drop off?
Yes>So i've been told.I've seen some sr20 online dyno sheets too where the HP/tq is @ it's highest @ the redline (stock).
DJ Nexxus wrote:when you shift in this higher range, you'll drop back lower down...but higher than where you would normally drop if you had the original redline..I think you should have access to more power this time as you drop..Yuh kinda lost me there with that one CDX, no malice intended, do you mind elaborating further?...
I'll use these vids to try and illustrate my point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_S4KwtlBx8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOs-8zOTQAw&NR=1
See how the RPM drops when gears change @ X RPM?Let's say, it drops down to 6,000 for the Sykline..you have Y Hp/tq @ 6k RPM.My thing is...if you push the redline past X, to about X + 700RPM, wouldn't the RPM it drops back down to (@ the gear shift) be higher than 6,000RPM?..
Therefore, the HP/tq of the higher RPM that you drop back down to, must be higher than Y hp @ 6k RPM..
I hope I explained clearly..that's just my tought process on the thing..Im not sure if this is correct or not.I don't know if an engine would drop back down to a preset RPM all the time, but im thinking the RPM it drops back down to also depends on the gear ratio of the gearbox/tranny..soo..
Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 1:02 pm
by DJ Nexxus
ok ok I hear ya now...and yeah when you cross redline (and I say this from my personal experience only) and you shift you will drop to a higher RPM level than if you had shifted normally, BUT you would have wasted time trying to get power out of the engine between the redline and whatever higher point you shifted from...ie... you just lost the race!...lol

Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 1:05 pm
by cdx2k1
^^Exactly.lol.That's why the fellahs say it doesnt make sense unless you have more power to get or give @ those higher RPM's.But i'd really like to do a head to head of 2 similar vehicles/engines and see which of the two would be faster.
Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 1:11 pm
by DJ Nexxus
my money on the man who shift properly, and anyway the original problem I was trying to figure out was....like I said I rebuilt a L28 engine and I am currently installing twin turbo in it...changing the pistons cams, rockers, springs, ie: increasing the redline I wanted a pretty good idea where that redline is.
Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 1:27 pm
by cdx2k1
^^Well, dyno!lol
Posted: May 3rd, 2007, 1:44 pm
by DJ Nexxus
lol...ok ok ok....sorry boss...lol
