BRAKE UPGRADE ISSUES (EBC STAGE 4 SIGNATURE BRAKE KIT)

nismo tuned · Postby **nismo tuned** » November 19th, 2015, 10:17 pm

Hello fellow tuners!

Just looking for some advice. I recently swapped out the stock rotors and pads on my 2010 Lancer EX to the EBC kit which included slotted rotors and EBC's Redstuff Brake Pads. The guide said the break in period was 1000 miles which I found to be excessively high :shock:

. So far, since I changed everything, I would say I drove roughly 1000 KM. Basically, what happens, under continuous, spirited driving and braking (20-30 mins) I lose brakes (brake pedal goes straight to the floor without slowing the car in a timely manner) and I smell brake fluid heavily along with a burning smell of sorts :cry:

. Due to this I was thinking I might need to upgrade to DOT 4 fluid? After letting the brakes cool off for 10 mins or so, regular braking occurs. Any ideas as to what may be causing this temporary loss in braking power?

Cheers!

Licensed to Walk! · Postby **Licensed to Walk!** » November 19th, 2015, 11:09 pm

Flushing the exististing brake fluid may be required as the moisture content accumulated over time has reduced the boiling point of the fluid. Dot 4 may not be a bad idea either.

nismo tuned · Postby **nismo tuned** » November 20th, 2015, 9:45 am

Gonna try this in the morning. Will let you know how it goes.

haydn0 · Postby **haydn0** » November 20th, 2015, 1:12 pm

Also : Make sure Banjo Bolts are in the correct places allowing for seamless passageway where the brake fluids can flow. My last quack mechanic mixed up the banjo bolts (one with holes) with regular bolts (no holes) restricting passage way for the brake fluid to flow.

nismo tuned · Postby **nismo tuned** » November 20th, 2015, 9:05 pm

haydn0 wrote:Also : Make sure Banjo Bolts are in the correct places allowing for seamless passageway where the brake fluids can flow. My last quack mechanic mixed up the banjo bolts (one with holes) with regular bolts (no holes) restricting passage way for the brake fluid to flow.

Oh geeze! I've actually never checked that. Will follow up and advise you guys tomorrow! Really appreciate the help!

krack korn · Postby **krack korn** » November 21st, 2015, 12:02 pm

brakes will never work if the creature (can't call him a mech if he so dotish) put regular bolts where banjo are required. Those bolts are a special fine thread as well so where he got solid bolts to put in there is a testament to his skill.

as previous poster said brake fluid is boiling, I would have thought that one would put fresh brake fluid with a brake upgrade like that, complete drain and change out, undoubtedly that brake setup would have been expensive, to not change the cheapest part of the system is bad business. As regular maintenance brake fluid should be changed yearly in our climate, at most two years and that is even if the vehicle is never driven.

Licensed to Walk! · Postby **Licensed to Walk!** » November 23rd, 2015, 8:58 am

haydn0 wrote:Also : Make sure Banjo Bolts are in the correct places allowing for seamless passageway where the brake fluids can flow. My last quack mechanic mixed up the banjo bolts (one with holes) with regular bolts (no holes) restricting passage way for the brake fluid to flow.

Saw an "upgrade" a while back where they installed the new calipers in the wrong orientation; with the bleeder nipple facing down. As such the system could not be properly purged/bled of air and pedal feel/stopping distance was worse than before the upgrade. All kinda techs and mechanics out here yes!

haydn0 · Postby **haydn0** » November 23rd, 2015, 8:00 pm

Licensed to Walk! wrote:
haydn0 wrote:Also : Make sure Banjo Bolts are in the correct places allowing for seamless passageway where the brake fluids can flow. My last quack mechanic mixed up the banjo bolts (one with holes) with regular bolts (no holes) restricting passage way for the brake fluid to flow.

Saw an "upgrade" a while back where they installed the new calipers in the wrong orientation; with the bleeder nipple facing down. As such the system could not be properly purged/bled of air and pedal feel/stopping distance was worse than before the upgrade. All kinda techs and mechanics out here yes!

They have some real quacks out there posing as mechanics, I thought I would give this poser a try since he would pick up your car at home or work and drop it back, which seemed convenient for me, I eventually found out he takes ppl cars elsewhere (if he can't handle the job) by his other padnah quacks, pay small money or none and then charge you an exorbitant price. apparently he targets the wealthy. An elderly wealthy woman recommended me to this Quack. I went back to my original mechanic and he laughed his @$$ off and asked why I horn him with another Mechanic and asked if it was a kid worked on my car. Long story short, Make sure you have Trust in your mechanic and they are honest & competent.

Ted_v2 · Postby **Ted_v2** » November 25th, 2015, 12:53 pm

Licensed to Walk! wrote:
haydn0 wrote:Also : Make sure Banjo Bolts are in the correct places allowing for seamless passageway where the brake fluids can flow. My last quack mechanic mixed up the banjo bolts (one with holes) with regular bolts (no holes) restricting passage way for the brake fluid to flow.

Saw an "upgrade" a while back where they installed the new calipers in the wrong orientation; with the bleeder nipple facing down. As such the system could not be properly purged/bled of air and pedal feel/stopping distance was worse than before the upgrade. All kinda techs and mechanics out here yes!

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