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Please please PLEASE help me with this...

Postby DJ Q » February 12th, 2009, 8:25 pm

I need to make a decision.

I have a Rover 200 original everything. I recently blew the head gasket and the car overheated to lock up point.

Now here's the issue:

- I'm getting a used engine of the same type from another Rover of the SAME series (actually 40 numbers behind my registration plate). However, the issue with that engine was that the transmission was bad. On the other hand... mine works perfectly. Benefit of this move is that I'd still have my current engine for spare parts.

- I can fix my engine. However, since the car overheated to lock up point we don't know what else could have gone bad and to check all of the parts can be quite costly. Benefit of this is that I will know exactly what went wrong and what was fixed.

The NEXT thing is that even before this incident, my current engine gives me a very hard start whether HOT or COLD and after that 15 second tumble, I have to wait another minute or two before I drive because I'll get almost no power and I'd move about 5km/h when flooring it until it eventually picks up. Plus when I switch on the A/C there is a serious delay in response time from the engine.

The thing that makes this a huge problem for me is that either way I go, it's going to cost the same $2000 including labour (give about $200). However, it's possible that fixing it can run me more expensive since there may be damaged parts that we'd be unaware of...


In all of this there's a 3rd option:
Get another engine

But to cater to that 3rd option, I need to know:
- What will fit with minor modifications (if any)
- Price
- Is it available with CVT?


Thanks in advance for your help!
Q

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Postby X_Factor » February 12th, 2009, 8:55 pm

i'd go with the used engine once it works good..doesnt burn oil, overheat etc

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Postby 3stagevtec » February 12th, 2009, 9:20 pm

find out the mileage and condition of the other rover engine..

that seems like the easiest option.. your harness should fix back up with ease, all mounts etc will be the same, and it will bolt directly up to your working transmission...

any why you want CVT?? you like headache nah...

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Postby DJ Q » February 12th, 2009, 10:30 pm

CVT is the BEST!

New condition on option 1:
Install used engine, run for 72 hours, if satisfied, pay in full.


What do you guys think?

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Postby X_Factor » February 12th, 2009, 10:43 pm

yeah...cant go wrong there...i was in a similar situation where i my last engine overheated to the point of locking up... i didnt even bother to open it
bought a used one and put it on

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Postby cinco » February 13th, 2009, 12:05 am

always your best bet to go with the same kind of engine

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Postby 3stagevtec » February 13th, 2009, 12:21 am

DJ Q wrote:CVT is the BEST!

New condition on option 1:
Install used engine, run for 72 hours, if satisfied, pay in full.


What do you guys think?


sounding good! gives you alot of time to find any possible problems..

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Postby cars » February 13th, 2009, 7:25 am

i second that. Even with a swap it cost money. Faced with the same situation. What type of engine do you have?

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Postby Dave » February 13th, 2009, 8:51 am

is it a Honda engine/bolt up ?
if it is, I'd swap out for a FU one

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Postby cars » February 13th, 2009, 2:40 pm

may be close..at lease ya wont have to cut over axles as the cv joints from an ek3 fit

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Postby A172 » February 13th, 2009, 3:56 pm

4efte conversion....

cheap, easy...will LAST once done right.

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Postby katastrophic » February 13th, 2009, 4:32 pm

^^^^ wont a ga15 be a better choice.. it will come out a lot cheaper.. and parts cheap...

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Postby A172 » February 13th, 2009, 6:03 pm

but ga15 boring :|

definitely easier on your mind for the future than a 4efte conversion tho...no doubt

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Postby frontier » February 13th, 2009, 6:11 pm

go with a honda engine
d15 b
easy bolt up to, no major work

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Postby teekshan » February 13th, 2009, 11:04 pm

I had the same problem in my civic and I learnt the hard way. What happens when your car overheats at least in my case is that the oil 'caked' up, yurned slushy and dry and stuck to all the moving parts. This eventually clogged the strainer that caused shortage to the oil pump. The result was a blown cylinder sleeve. I thought i would have just press over a sleeve but after scrapping it out, the bearings were shelled, the rods and a couple of other things as well.

If you are keeping your current engine and/or transmission, change the oil and use some slush treatment before changing. The best bet I would say is to get the the used engine as cost is also a factor otherwise it would have been better to go with your last option.

Trust me when I say be safe than sorry and change your oils if you ever overheat engine and transmission/gearbox

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Postby DJ Q » February 14th, 2009, 11:29 am

Well the owner of the other engine is afraid to do that 3 day thing so that is completely out of the window. In my opinion, if you KNOW an item is working properly, you should be able to give me some form of guarantee not so? So next engine option is OUT of the window...

So now I ask, what will be the simplest/closest bolt patterned engine to install? And give me some prices please..

Something with a little pace would be nice :)

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Postby frontier » February 14th, 2009, 12:29 pm

d15b
best option
or sr20

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Postby DJ Q » February 15th, 2009, 12:56 am

what's the price of a d15b?

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Postby 3stagevtec » February 15th, 2009, 1:09 am

DJ Q wrote:what's the price of a d15b?


d15b = 3 stage vtec 8-)

http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/

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Postby DJ Q » February 15th, 2009, 4:52 pm

3stagevtec wrote:
DJ Q wrote:what's the price of a d15b?


d15b = 3 stage vtec 8-)

http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/


so what's the price of you?

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Postby 3stagevtec » February 15th, 2009, 6:59 pm

DJ Q wrote:
3stagevtec wrote:
DJ Q wrote:what's the price of a d15b?


d15b = 3 stage vtec 8-)

http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/


so what's the price of you?


no clue.. go make some calls..

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Postby DJ Q » February 15th, 2009, 8:56 pm

3stagevtec wrote:
DJ Q wrote:
3stagevtec wrote:
DJ Q wrote:what's the price of a d15b?


d15b = 3 stage vtec 8-)

http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/


so what's the price of you?


no clue.. go make some calls..


yea i realise i have to go do some shopping...

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Postby DJ Q » February 16th, 2009, 11:09 am

dammit i made so many calls this morning and no one has a manual, fuel injected d15b

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Postby teekshan » February 16th, 2009, 2:54 pm

Changing engine brand or just contemplating?

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Postby DJ Q » February 17th, 2009, 8:48 am

changing for sure

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Postby teekshan » February 17th, 2009, 9:35 pm

I find nissan to be the best in the price/performance ratio. Nothing beats it and this is coming from a driver of a Honda, Subaru, Mitsubishi, and Toyota.

Nissan rules

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