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EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Don't concern yourself too much with oil, you just become paranoid after time. By the time the engine degrades from regular oil that everyone else using that Hilux would have 5 owners and be long gone you may not even be alive.
I had an EG8 Civic and I used recycled oil in it, never changed oil filters since it had an oil leak never even changed oil. And that car run for donkey years, the money I saved by buying recycled oil, taking discarded oil from gas stations etc in the long run I saved the price of 2 Engines and still the Engine was fine.
Except the car didn't start in the sun but that was not because of oil.
*KRONIK* wrote:EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Don't concern yourself too much with oil, you just become paranoid after time. By the time the engine degrades from regular oil that everyone else using that Hilux would have 5 owners and be long gone you may not even be alive.
I had an EG8 Civic and I used recycled oil in it, never changed oil filters since it had an oil leak never even changed oil. And that car run for donkey years, the money I saved by buying recycled oil, taking discarded oil from gas stations etc in the long run I saved the price of 2 Engines and still the Engine was fine.
Except the car didn't start in the sun but that was not because of oil.
Rofl
Hoss....u really entertaining sometimes u know
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Don't concern yourself too much with oil, you just become paranoid after time. By the time the engine degrades from regular oil that everyone else using that Hilux would have 5 owners and be long gone you may not even be alive.
I had an EG8 Civic and I used recycled oil in it, never changed oil filters since it had an oil leak never even changed oil. And that car run for donkey years, the money I saved by buying recycled oil, taking discarded oil from gas stations etc in the long run I saved the price of 2 Engines and still the Engine was fine.
Except the car didn't start in the sun but that was not because of oil.
MG Man wrote:Team Loco wrote:sorry dude but you should have stuck with the TTTL supplied vehicle. there is a reason they sell the new hilux with the older 1KD engine and not the 1GD. but i see you realise the issue with the 2.8 needing a less sulphur fuel. The dpf filter is pretty good in theory but with our fuel you gotta make sure that system remains unclogged. even with the 1kd without a dpf system, the turbo charger suffers from particulate buildup. i repair a 1kd charger almost every week. they all suffer the same issue. the vnt gets clogged with particulates, causes it to seize, the this puts a strain on the electronic actuator and eventually the entire turbo goes bad. i dont know much about the 1gd and if it has a vnt turbo but i wish you luck. the dpf is fairly new to trinidad. i understand liqui moly sells a dpf cleaner. i know of one person who swears by it but he has to import it himself
doesn't the engine 'burn' the stuff in the DPF when you doing highway runs?
Even if we had ULSD at our pumps, many vehicles, esp euro-speced engines still have issues from carbon buildup in oilways and turbo oil lines....even in europe, the carbon gunk kills the turbo, and clogs oilways.....only real defence is regular oil changes
Team Loco wrote: dont talk about those who use caterpillar oil. I meet them and they boast about how good it is. But i meet them to repair thier turbo
*KRONIK* wrote:EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Don't concern yourself too much with oil, you just become paranoid after time. By the time the engine degrades from regular oil that everyone else using that Hilux would have 5 owners and be long gone you may not even be alive.
I had an EG8 Civic and I used recycled oil in it, never changed oil filters since it had an oil leak never even changed oil. And that car run for donkey years, the money I saved by buying recycled oil, taking discarded oil from gas stations etc in the long run I saved the price of 2 Engines and still the Engine was fine.
Except the car didn't start in the sun but that was not because of oil.
Rofl
Hoss....u really entertaining sometimes u know
tr1ad wrote:
dan dan dan...
men online fraid to ask...
but yuh really that dotish in one lifetime?
Tweety wrote:
The above is not my own words but says all that needs to be said, there are many options available in different brands as you can see so the choice is yours.
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Quite frankly, apart from the overheating issues with the Civic, the recycled and discarded oil worked just fine for many years, it was not just any discarded oil. I knew the guy at the service station and he would give me the discarded used oil from rich people vehicles, folks who does change their oil on time and sometimes sooner than needed.
That oil lasted me 5 months before the Engine started overheating. Which IMO was fine by me, sold the car and met the owner a few months ago and he says the car works fine besides the issue where it won't start in sun light, Got to hand it to Honda, great Engineering.
MG Man wrote:Tweety wrote:
The above is not my own words but says all that needs to be said, there are many options available in different brands as you can see so the choice is yours.
this is why I respect you and not KendallTT
Mr Kendall out to beat his chest and regurgitate his employer's market spin
Any time you willing to say 'buy MINI cuz MINE ALONE is bess', you fail as a marketer
I'm really interested in the Max-Tane....how compatible is to use with the PSA 1.6 turbodiesel engine? (That's Peugeot's generic engine for them, Citroen, Ford, Volvo and MINI)...if you say it's safe on those pesky diesel pumps, rail and fickle Italian injectors, I'll give it a try
MG Man wrote:Val wrote:MG Man wrote:KENDALLTT wrote:. Try Kendall diesel engine oil – Super D3 15w 40. This is a fantastic oil with long life, high TBN (12.2), API –CI4 (Plus), and an advanced additive package to deal with high soot, wear, detergency etc.
a couple things...a fisherman never says his own fish rotten
Secondly, why would you recommend a 15W40? There's nothing new on the light diesel engine market that uses a 15W diesel multigrade....I wouldn't be surprised if that van requires a 5W30.....I'd place my bets on it being that or a 5W40 synthetic, but MOS DEF NOT a 15W40
You sure you qualified to speak on behalf of your employer's brand?
What's wrong with a 15W40 in our climate? Our ambient temperature doesn't change much and it is usually on the higher end of the temperature band anyway. The important thing is to follow your manufacturer's recommendation for your temperature band unless you really understand how oil viscosity changes and compares with straight viscosity oils at different operating temperatures. If I remember correctly, a 15W-40 acts like a straight 15 oil when cold, and a straight 40 oil at 100 Celsius. It doesn't mean that the absolute viscosity increases with temperature, it simply means that the oil behaves like it is a more viscous oil at higher temperatures, BUT, the viscosity still degrades. Basically a straight 15 oil at 100 Celsius will have a much lower viscosity than that of a 15W40, but it doesn't mean that the low temp viscosity isn't higher than the high temp viscosity. I don't remember it too well, but there are comparison graphs that give you the kinematic viscosity over temperature. I think also, the W doesn't mean Weight, it means Winter. So that is the viscosity the oil behaves like when it's a very cold temperature like in winter.
Some tribologist can correct me where I make errors up there.
Some of what he says is not 100% accurate I agree, but yes a higher TBN does positively impact on the oil's ability to handle acidic contaminants such as sulphurous acids. ULSD is actually 15ppm, and if you look at a Chevron guideline on setting TBN:
"Engine oil formulators have always matched the amount of TBN to the amount of sulfur in the fuel. Today Chevron manufactures engine oils with 70 TBN which are used in marine engines operating on 5% sulfur fuel. This is very high sulfur content, 50,000 parts per million. Diesel fuel in the US was approximately 2,500 to 3,000 ppm sulfur (the legal maximum for ASTM 2D fuel was 5000 ppm) until 1993, when EPA regulations required a reduction to a maximum limit of 500 ppm for on road use. Today all diesel fuel is limited to 15 ppm sulfur maximum (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel, or ULSD)."
This obviously refers to the US and not here.
why would you want an oil that behaves like a 15W at cold start, in an engine designed for a 5W at cold start?
We are def not at the higher end...most mornings, our ambient air temp is below 28 deg celcius, so the 'hot climate' argument is moot
Val wrote:But 28 Celsius is not cold. Cold is W in the oil viscosity rating, W means winter not weight. Winter is not 28 C.
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Team Loco wrote:MG Man wrote:Team Loco wrote:sorry dude but you should have stuck with the TTTL supplied vehicle. there is a reason they sell the new hilux with the older 1KD engine and not the 1GD. but i see you realise the issue with the 2.8 needing a less sulphur fuel. The dpf filter is pretty good in theory but with our fuel you gotta make sure that system remains unclogged. even with the 1kd without a dpf system, the turbo charger suffers from particulate buildup. i repair a 1kd charger almost every week. they all suffer the same issue. the vnt gets clogged with particulates, causes it to seize, the this puts a strain on the electronic actuator and eventually the entire turbo goes bad. i dont know much about the 1gd and if it has a vnt turbo but i wish you luck. the dpf is fairly new to trinidad. i understand liqui moly sells a dpf cleaner. i know of one person who swears by it but he has to import it himself
doesn't the engine 'burn' the stuff in the DPF when you doing highway runs?
Even if we had ULSD at our pumps, many vehicles, esp euro-speced engines still have issues from carbon buildup in oilways and turbo oil lines....even in europe, the carbon gunk kills the turbo, and clogs oilways.....only real defence is regular oil changes
Agreed. Regulaer oil changes is the best defence. Forget all those oils that claim long life. Heard men changing oil at 20,000kms. And dont talk about those who use caterpillar oil. I meet them and they boast about how good it is. But i meet them to repair thier turbo
shaker.imports wrote:
1. Yes these options can be optioned out.
2. There is a surplus of engine available from the vigo model and Toyota has agreed to take this shipment as it kept the cost down for them to introduce the revo. The new engine has been a upgraded from the older model vehicle and soon Toyota will have no choice but to bring this vehicle at a higher price when the engines are finished. Hence the open day they said that the price is expected to raise soon.
3. These vehicles are exported worldwide and will not have any issues with the diesel because it has not been fitted with a dpf filter to filter the emissions of the unit for first world country. Proper use of maintenance filters and u should not have any issue.
FullStop wrote:use low ash oil for vehicles equipped with a dpf, use the viscosity specified.
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