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Rory Phoulorie wrote:So all you did was to use the Chevron fuel treatment and all your stated problems went away?
cinco wrote:why do you guys think these products are necessary?
liquimolytt wrote:cinco wrote:why do you guys think these products are necessary?
These are necessary to keep your vehicle / engine performing at its designed potential and even better.
In many cases these products can solve problems that otherwise would be expensive and labour intensive to fix.
For example, our Hydraulic Lifter Additive, dampens the noise caused by hydraulic lifters and improves their lubrication. To fix this problem mechanically, is expensive and cumbersome. This is why the professionals love this product.
rollingstock wrote:liquimolytt wrote:cinco wrote:why do you guys think these products are necessary?
These are necessary to keep your vehicle / engine performing at its designed potential and even better.
In many cases these products can solve problems that otherwise would be expensive and labour intensive to fix.
For example, our Hydraulic Lifter Additive, dampens the noise caused by hydraulic lifters and improves their lubrication. To fix this problem mechanically, is expensive and cumbersome. This is why the professionals love this product.
This i am interested in, where has?
rollingstock wrote:liquimolytt wrote:cinco wrote:why do you guys think these products are necessary?
These are necessary to keep your vehicle / engine performing at its designed potential and even better.
In many cases these products can solve problems that otherwise would be expensive and labour intensive to fix.
For example, our Hydraulic Lifter Additive, dampens the noise caused by hydraulic lifters and improves their lubrication. To fix this problem mechanically, is expensive and cumbersome. This is why the professionals love this product.
This i am interested in, where has?
cinco wrote:rollingstock wrote:liquimolytt wrote:cinco wrote:why do you guys think these products are necessary?
These are necessary to keep your vehicle / engine performing at its designed potential and even better.
In many cases these products can solve problems that otherwise would be expensive and labour intensive to fix.
For example, our Hydraulic Lifter Additive, dampens the noise caused by hydraulic lifters and improves their lubrication. To fix this problem mechanically, is expensive and cumbersome. This is why the professionals love this product.
This i am interested in, where has?
i switched to amsoil and my lifter noises have eased![]()
i dunno why ppl feel additives are necessary when all u are doing is putting a bandaid on an issue.
cinco wrote:rollingstock wrote:liquimolytt wrote:cinco wrote:why do you guys think these products are necessary?
These are necessary to keep your vehicle / engine performing at its designed potential and even better.
In many cases these products can solve problems that otherwise would be expensive and labour intensive to fix.
For example, our Hydraulic Lifter Additive, dampens the noise caused by hydraulic lifters and improves their lubrication. To fix this problem mechanically, is expensive and cumbersome. This is why the professionals love this product.
This i am interested in, where has?
i switched to amsoil and my lifter noises have eased![]()
i dunno why ppl feel additives are necessary when all u are doing is putting a bandaid on an issue.
rollingstock wrote:cinco wrote:rollingstock wrote:liquimolytt wrote:cinco wrote:why do you guys think these products are necessary?
These are necessary to keep your vehicle / engine performing at its designed potential and even better.
In many cases these products can solve problems that otherwise would be expensive and labour intensive to fix.
For example, our Hydraulic Lifter Additive, dampens the noise caused by hydraulic lifters and improves their lubrication. To fix this problem mechanically, is expensive and cumbersome. This is why the professionals love this product.
This i am interested in, where has?
i switched to amsoil and my lifter noises have eased![]()
i dunno why ppl feel additives are necessary when all u are doing is putting a bandaid on an issue.
4g93 gdi, that doh help. now hush yuh cyat!
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ModMania wrote:Using an engine flush is very harmful to the engine...its like putting kerosene in it...it will starve bearings of proper lubrication and later on you will end up regretting it..just change oil more regularly and that should clean up your engine
cinco wrote:rollingstock wrote:cinco wrote:rollingstock wrote:liquimolytt wrote:cinco wrote:why do you guys think these products are necessary?
These are necessary to keep your vehicle / engine performing at its designed potential and even better.
In many cases these products can solve problems that otherwise would be expensive and labour intensive to fix.
For example, our Hydraulic Lifter Additive, dampens the noise caused by hydraulic lifters and improves their lubrication. To fix this problem mechanically, is expensive and cumbersome. This is why the professionals love this product.
This i am interested in, where has?
i switched to amsoil and my lifter noises have eased![]()
i dunno why ppl feel additives are necessary when all u are doing is putting a bandaid on an issue.
4g93 gdi, that doh help. now hush yuh cyat!
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no you hosh yours fawke
Liquimoly guy how does that hydraulic lifter additive change the viscosity and make up of my oil?
and no i didnt just need an oil change i get noticeably more lifter noise with shell oil than amsoil
ghostbusters wrote:^^arent vtec engines supposed to run Xw30 oils?vtec is supposed to engage more lazily with a Xw40 oil...does this mean that a w40 liquimoly is as viscous as a w30 body anything else?...that means liquimoly oils are less viscous than stated?
ghostbusters wrote:both links you posted recommend 10w30 for our climate...
Big Z wrote:Somebody say 5W30 in a B16A?
sliperywhenwet wrote:ghostbusters wrote:both links you posted recommend 10w30 for our climate...
This debate could go on for months . But i dont think u took the time to read . The first link shows you what Honda recommends for there engines nowhere there say anything about temp.
The second link shows temp which u say the w30 is recommended for our temp. but it also shows the w40 in the same temp range. Also in that second link what did everyone recommend ?
which all comes back to the first link . Than Honda made the w40 oil for DOHC VTEC and the w30 for the LEV engines .
IDK why u trying to fight down the Liqui Moly guys thread . I came to tell d man i used it and getting a nice response after doing my investigations. U sound like your'e an agent for another oil and afraid to use Liqui Moly because you'll switch and get fired !!
Big Z wrote:Whats the hths of the liquimoly 5w30 and 10w30?
liquimolytt wrote:Big Z wrote:Whats the hths of the liquimoly 5w30 and 10w30?
This Info is not readily available. I requested it from Liqui Moly-Germany. We'll get back to you on this.
liquimolytt wrote:liquimolytt wrote:Big Z wrote:Whats the hths of the liquimoly 5w30 and 10w30?
This Info is not readily available. I requested it from Liqui Moly-Germany. We'll get back to you on this.
Hi Big Z,
The HTHS viscosity is not explained by the SAE viscosity for example 10 W-30. The HTHS is depending on the ACEA specification. See graphic below for explanation.
Also, I found this article from Lubrizol HDDEO which I found to be very helpful to understand HTHS quality of motor oils
High Temperature High Shear Viscosity of Engine Oils, what it means to your engine
High temperature high shear (HTHS) viscosity of engine oils is a critical property that relates to the fuel economy and durability of a running engine. The drivers behind lowering HTHS viscosity are new global governmental regulations to improve fuel economy (FE) and lower greenhouse gases (GHG) in new vehicles. Lower HTHS viscosity tends to improve FE and lower GHG but higher HTHS viscosity affords better wear protection so a careful balance must be found when formulating an engine oil. Sufficient HTHS viscosity is critical in preventing engine wear in the critical ring/liner interface area by maintaining a protective oil film between moving parts. One method used to measure HTHS viscosity is ASTM D4683. Oil is introduced between a rotor and a stator at the test temperature of 150°C. The rotor experiences a reactive torque to the oils resistance to flow (viscose friction) and this torque response level is used to determine the HTHS viscosity. HTHS viscosity by ASTM D4683 has been found to relate to the viscosity providing hydrodynamic lubrication in light duty and heavy duty engines. HTHS viscosity has also been found to relate to fuel economy. Think of the protective oil film as if you are trying to swim. If the film is too thick like molasses you can barely move and have to expend a lot of energy; too thin and you sink to the bottom. What you want is the right balance of support and ease of movement. The oil has to be thick enough to maintain separation of the critical moving parts but thin enough to allow for fuel efficient operation.
A new heavy-duty engine oil category, PC-11, is currently under development. PC-11 may be split into two categories one with HTHS viscosity less than 3.5 and one equal to or greater than 3.5. PC-11 oils with HTHS viscosity <3.5 would offer FE benefits but would be restricted to engines designed to run on lower HTHS viscosity oils. This may exclude many older engines. Engine manufacturers are evaluating their hardware to see if engine durability, especially for ring and liner scuffing is an issue with low HTHS viscosity oils so they can take advantage of the engine lubricant delivering improved FE to meet the new US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) FE and GHG requirements. Engine manufacturers may have to redesign their engines to take advantage of the potential fuel savings of low HTHS viscosity oils. PC-11 oils with HTHS viscosity equal to or greater than 3.5 would cover the heritage fleet and new engine requiring higher HTHS viscosity for wear protection.
A critical issue for the oil industry is how misapplication of low HTHS viscosity oils will be avoided. The use of low HTHS oils will save fuel in engines designed for their use but could lead to excessive premature wear in some engines.
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