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b16a 180whp???
Posted: February 18th, 2009, 11:04 pm
by GONEEE TRUUUU.....
hey,,,uall think you can reach close to 180whp with a b16a without touching the block,,,???If you do head work maybe, some stage 2 cams,springs,port n polish,valve job, I/h/e,, vafc....has any1 ever put down so much with a b16??
Posted: February 18th, 2009, 11:38 pm
by hatch is best
B18LS................
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 9:12 am
by SR
it is possible
proper built head with intake exhaust and management
however i would suggest having the block balanced for reliability issues as cams will now allow above 9k rpm
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 9:57 am
by GONEEE TRUUUU.....
i c...has any1 ever actually put down those numbers down here??
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:24 am
by B20VTEK
you will not reach 180whp on a b16a with a vafc.
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 12:17 pm
by red_dragon
the top runners for B16A NA
are
SR
Weaver - have not seen him on the forum in a long time though
Dragaholic
with track times to match
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 12:28 pm
by B20VTEK
should be
Dragaholic
SR
Weaver
wonder where weaver is?
have not seen his car or heard about him for awhile
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 2:28 pm
by red_dragon
that for the correction
error was due to lack of Vtec
last i heard weaver was trying to put in a Jet engine do not know how true
but back to the topic
only so call build to get a B16a stock bottom end to high numbers was the
omniman 200whp build
give it a try
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 5:06 pm
by BlueIce
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 7:02 pm
by B20VTEK
ayay
this is the honda thead
no old s13 allowed
hehe
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 9:45 pm
by GONEEE TRUUUU.....
yeh ill try for it....
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 9:56 pm
by B20VTEK
pockets better be deep
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 10:07 pm
by c'vic
anyone kno where i could get a b16 to buy, and what price range? i'm in grenada and looking to have one shipped up.
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 10:09 pm
by B20VTEK
welcome to tuner
15 000 up in the bamboo
complete manual
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 10:20 pm
by red_dragon
GONEEE TRUUUU..... wrote:yeh ill try for it....
which u gonna try for 180WHP or 200WHP on the b16?
but before u start anything
GO DYNO THE CAR .. see what it making
either way
u looking at $15K
of all the NA B-Series engines I know of close to or over 200WHP were 1900cc or larger and alotttt of parts
doh just do the MAGAZINE BUILD it doh always work ..
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:21 pm
by B20VTEK
15k?
lol
i say much more
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:26 pm
by GONEEE TRUUUU.....
hmm i c....i wantd t try for 180whp....i dynoed the car at 149 alredy....
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:39 pm
by B20VTEK
31 more to go
u will HAVE to raise cr 1 point
ported head - 5000+
agressive cam + springs + retainers = 7000tt?
toda header=10 000 tt
2.5" exhaust=2000?
type r tb + manifold-2500?
management-4500?
how much we reach?>
vs
stock build b20 with type r cam
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:41 pm
by B20VTEK
add labour
headgasket
seals
headstuds if not reusing headbolts
tune
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:47 pm
by GONEEE TRUUUU.....
i cant use the vafc to tune it??i have headers n full exhaust on it alredy,,,wat abt crower stage 2 cams n springs?? i priced it at 4500tt...well i hafta get the tb n manifold....i was also thinkin abt goin frank bt does evrything bolt back up meaning ps,compressor, alt,,engine mounts etc??i knw the gbox works back up...any other advice on the frank build??parts needed??
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:47 pm
by red_dragon
well said mr B20
only thing is disagree with
stock build b20 with type r cam
building a stock b20 bottom end doh make sense
sleeve the block
raise the CR then u got a monster
and to build a good CRVTEC is $25-30K
doh regret my build
but next time gonna build a LS (block is stronger) then i would not have any problem swinging 10K

Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:51 pm
by B20VTEK
dont have to sleeve the b20 block
just dont overheat or detonate and you will be fine
i was just saying a bone stock b20 with vtec and type r cam tuned will walk on a b16a fully built.
even if it looses it will surely be more fun and feel really good with gobs of torque from 3000rpms up
Posted: February 19th, 2009, 11:54 pm
by B20VTEK
vafc cannot tune timing
thats where you make power
not from fuel, to a certain extent.............
i dont feel to type too much its 12 so dont get too 'technical' and anal guys
how much hp does the stage 2 crower claim to give
what headers do you have?
if its not toda your wasting time
everything bolts back up on a frank
its a b series.
Posted: February 20th, 2009, 7:14 am
by red_dragon
B20VTEK wrote:dont have to sleeve the b20 block
just dont overheat or detonate and you will be fine
i was just saying a bone stock b20 with vtec and type r cam tuned will walk on a b16a fully built.
even if it looses it will surely be more fun and feel really good with gobs of torque from 3000rpms up
point taken and proved
cause there were 2 B20 builds in the past runnin higher than 12:1CR stock block ... they held up till they started to see 9K+ RPM

Posted: February 20th, 2009, 7:15 am
by red_dragon
B20VTEK wrote:what headers do you have?
if its not toda your wasting time.
but what is your view on the Hytech
saw u have that for sale

Posted: February 20th, 2009, 8:34 am
by B20VTEK
hytech is great header for a 1.8 motor and bigger.
but not for a 1.6
it looses midrange and gains a few poines up top
but with a b20 has so much torque and wide powerband, when b16a spin 10 000 to make 200 hp, they can do the 200hp at a lower rpm, say 8500rpms.
rpm = ruin peoples motors
Posted: February 20th, 2009, 8:38 am
by honda hoe
red_dragon wrote:the top runners for B16A NA
are
SR
Weaver - have not seen him on the forum in a long time though
Dragaholic
with track times to match
so who u feel B20VTEK is

Posted: February 20th, 2009, 8:49 am
by B20VTEK
honda hoe wrote:red_dragon wrote:the top runners for B16A NA
are
SR
Weaver - have not seen him on the forum in a long time though
Dragaholic
with track times to match
so who u
know B20VTEK is

fixed
you dont have a container to clear or something?
......
runs back making pizza
Posted: February 20th, 2009, 8:52 am
by honda hoe
you dont have a container to clear or something?
nah boy
carnival friday
rum whole day

Posted: February 20th, 2009, 8:54 am
by honda hoe
btw ppl...
if u have a b16
would u prefer to build an lsvtec
or jus swap in a b18c type r?