b16a 180whp???

[GONEEE TRUUUU.....]

hey,,,uall think you can reach close to 180whp with a b16a without touching the block,,,???If you do head work maybe, some stage 2 cams,springs,port n polish,valve job, I/h/e,, vafc....has any1 ever put down so much with a b16??

[hatch is best]

B18LS................

[SR]

it is possible

proper built head with intake exhaust and management

however i would suggest having the block balanced for reliability issues as cams will now allow above 9k rpm

[GONEEE TRUUUU.....]

i c...has any1 ever actually put down those numbers down here??

[B20VTEK]

you will not reach 180whp on a b16a with a vafc.

[red_dragon]

the top runners for B16A NA
are

SR
Weaver - have not seen him on the forum in a long time though
Dragaholic

with track times to match

[B20VTEK]

should be

Dragaholic
SR
Weaver

wonder where weaver is?
have not seen his car or heard about him for awhile

[red_dragon]

that for the correction
error was due to lack of Vtec

last i heard weaver was trying to put in a Jet engine do not know how true

but back to the topic

only so call build to get a B16a stock bottom end to high numbers was the
omniman 200whp build

give it a try

[BlueIce]

wonder where weaver is?
have not seen his car or heard about him for awhile

[B20VTEK]

ayay
this is the honda thead
no old s13 allowed
hehe

[GONEEE TRUUUU.....]

yeh ill try for it....

[B20VTEK]

pockets better be deep

[c'vic]

anyone kno where i could get a b16 to buy, and what price range? i'm in grenada and looking to have one shipped up.

[B20VTEK]

welcome to tuner

15 000 up in the bamboo
complete manual

[red_dragon]

yeh ill try for it....

which u gonna try for 180WHP or 200WHP on the b16?

but before u start anything

GO DYNO THE CAR .. see what it making

either way

u looking at $15K


of all the NA B-Series engines I know of close to or over 200WHP were 1900cc or larger and alotttt of parts

doh just do the MAGAZINE BUILD it doh always work ..

[B20VTEK]

15k?
lol
i say much more

[GONEEE TRUUUU.....]

hmm i c....i wantd t try for 180whp....i dynoed the car at 149 alredy....

[B20VTEK]

31 more to go
u will HAVE to raise cr 1 point
ported head - 5000+
agressive cam + springs + retainers = 7000tt?
toda header=10 000 tt
2.5" exhaust=2000?
type r tb + manifold-2500?
management-4500?

how much we reach?>

vs

stock build b20 with type r cam

[B20VTEK]

add labour
headgasket
seals
headstuds if not reusing headbolts
tune

[GONEEE TRUUUU.....]

i cant use the vafc to tune it??i have headers n full exhaust on it alredy,,,wat abt crower stage 2 cams n springs?? i priced it at 4500tt...well i hafta get the tb n manifold....i was also thinkin abt goin frank bt does evrything bolt back up meaning ps,compressor, alt,,engine mounts etc??i knw the gbox works back up...any other advice on the frank build??parts needed??

[red_dragon]

well said mr B20


only thing is disagree with

stock build b20 with type r cam

building a stock b20 bottom end doh make sense

sleeve the block
raise the CR then u got a monster


and to build a good CRVTEC is $25-30K

doh regret my build
but next time gonna build a LS (block is stronger) then i would not have any problem swinging 10K

[B20VTEK]

dont have to sleeve the b20 block

just dont overheat or detonate and you will be fine

i was just saying a bone stock b20 with vtec and type r cam tuned will walk on a b16a fully built.
even if it looses it will surely be more fun and feel really good with gobs of torque from 3000rpms up

[B20VTEK]

vafc cannot tune timing
thats where you make power
not from fuel, to a certain extent.............
i dont feel to type too much its 12 so dont get too 'technical' and anal guys

how much hp does the stage 2 crower claim to give

what headers do you have?
if its not toda your wasting time


everything bolts back up on a frank
its a b series.

[red_dragon]

dont have to sleeve the b20 block

just dont overheat or detonate and you will be fine

i was just saying a bone stock b20 with vtec and type r cam tuned will walk on a b16a fully built.
even if it looses it will surely be more fun and feel really good with gobs of torque from 3000rpms up

point taken and proved

cause there were 2 B20 builds in the past runnin higher than 12:1CR stock block ... they held up till they started to see 9K+ RPM

[red_dragon]

what headers do you have?
if its not toda your wasting time.

but what is your view on the Hytech
saw u have that for sale

[B20VTEK]

hytech is great header for a 1.8 motor and bigger.
but not for a 1.6
it looses midrange and gains a few poines up top


but with a b20 has so much torque and wide powerband, when b16a spin 10 000 to make 200 hp, they can do the 200hp at a lower rpm, say 8500rpms.

rpm = ruin peoples motors

[honda hoe]

the top runners for B16A NA
are

SR
Weaver - have not seen him on the forum in a long time though
Dragaholic

with track times to match

so who u feel B20VTEK is

[B20VTEK]

the top runners for B16A NA
are

SR
Weaver - have not seen him on the forum in a long time though
Dragaholic

with track times to match

so who u know B20VTEK is

fixed

you dont have a container to clear or something?













......
runs back making pizza

[honda hoe]

you dont have a container to clear or something?

nah boy

carnival friday

rum whole day

[honda hoe]

btw ppl...

if u have a b16

would u prefer to build an lsvtec

or jus swap in a b18c type r?