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K20 Accord vs K20 Integra
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 8:14 am
by Dave
apart from the transmission being auto vs manual what makes the difference in horsepower
someone told me exhaust manifold, some cam timing and mapping?
any more specifics w.r.t. the differences that account for the 150hp vs approx 212 and more
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 8:46 am
by honda hoe
d k20 accord isn't 150hp
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 8:55 am
by flatline
^160hp? who cares...is only a difference of about 10lb-ft between the accord and itr
The ITR comes with more aggressive cams (sorry, i don't know the figures of lift and duration), better flowing head and tuned intake and exhaust manifold, which would obviously lead to a better map. Since hondahoe owns one, could correct me.
and dave....
There are
9 reasons I can disown you now
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 8:58 am
by honda hoe
i sorry boss
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 9:05 am
by flatline
^:oops:
oohhhhhh...i think i found most of the rest of the answer. Dave, in technical non-Honda terms, there are hamsters on both the intake and exhaust cam of the ITR, but only on intake of accord, as well as higher compression.
The K-series uses a DOHC valvetrain, which utilizes roller rockers to reduce friction. The VTEC system on engines like the K20A3 is only on the intake cam, and at low RPM when not engaged, allows the engine to function as a 12-valve engine, opening only one intake valve so that the air swirls for better combustion. This VTEC system was designed with fuel economy in mind. In engines like the K20A2 found in the RSX Type-S, The VTEC system always allows the motor to run as a 16 valve engine, and when VTEC engages, its on both the intake and exhaust rockers, and opens all 4 valves even more at high RPM.
K20A
Found in:
2001-2005 Honda Civic Type-R (EP3)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.5:1
Power: 212 hp (215 PS, 158 kW) @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 149 ft·lbf (202 N·m) @ 7000 rpm
Redline: 8400 rpm
2001-2006 Honda Integra Type-R (DC5)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.5:1
Power: 217 hp (220 PS, 162 kW) @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 152 ft·lbf (206 N·m) @ 7000 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm
2002-2006 Honda Accord Euro-R
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.5:1
Power: 217 hp (220 PS, 162 kW) @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 152 ft·lbf (206 N·m) @ 7000 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm
K20A2
Found in:
2002-2004 Acura RSX Type-S and 2002-2005 Honda Civic Type R (EP, European)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.0:1
Power: 200 hp (147 kW) @ 7400 rpm
Torque: 142 ft·lbf (193 N·m) @ 6000 rpm
Redline: 8200 rpm
K20A3
Found in:
2002-2005 Honda Civic Si
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 9.8:1
Power: 155 hp* (119 kW) @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 139
2002-2006 Acura RSX
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 9.8:1
Power: 155 hp* (119 kW) @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 139 ft·lbf* (191 N·m) @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 6800 rpm
(* Horsepower and torque calculations reflect new SAE J1349 procedures revised August 2004)
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=27766
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 9:16 am
by SR
go with the accord
more family oriented
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 9:24 am
by honda hoe
told u it wasn't 150hp
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 9:30 am
by flatline
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 9:37 am
by honda hoe
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 10:39 am
by Zim
The K20A in the DC5 & EP3 is the same as in the Accord Euro R (CL7). So HP & TQ figs are the same.
The Accord being the slowest due to extra weight & more "comfortable" suspension.
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 10:50 am
by ingalook
What engine is in the TSX? I think it makes 260hp
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 11:02 am
by flatline
Zim wrote:The K20A in the DC5 & EP3 is the same as in the Accord Euro R (CL7). So HP & TQ figs are the same.
The Accord being the slowest due to extra weight & more "comfortable" suspension.
agreed there, but the local Accords come with a detuned K20A. Dave is trying to find the differences between this local engine, which might be the K20A3? and the ITR, which account for the difference in power.
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 12:06 pm
by Dave
ways boy, allyuh harsh
this question just stemmed from a convo last night with someone exploring this as an option
me drive an accord,
the v6 one maybe, great sports sedan there but out of my range
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 1:54 pm
by Zim
ingalook wrote:What engine is in the TSX? I think it makes 260hp
I not sure. I be;ieve it's either the K24_ or a V^ (dont knw eng code)
flatline wrote:Zim wrote:The K20A in the DC5 & EP3 is the same as in the Accord Euro R (CL7). So HP & TQ figs are the same.
The Accord being the slowest due to extra weight & more "comfortable" suspension.
agreed there, but the local Accords come with a detuned K20A. Dave is trying to find the differences between this local engine, which might be the K20A3? and the ITR, which account for the difference in power.
O ok, I was unaware he was ref to local Accords
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 2:24 pm
by type_r_teggy
TSX- K24 only in the US though
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 3:10 pm
by ingalook
OK I do some digging, that K24 spins to 7500rpm and does only 200hp... but with alot more torque than the K20
I think that is why they started using the TSX in speedvision Touring Car as opposed to the RSX
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 3:17 pm
by flatline
^click the link i put up...has specs on all the K-series engines
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 5:58 pm
by import
I not sure. I be;ieve it's either the K24_ or a V^ (dont knw eng code)
TSX- K24 only in the US though
Actually thats not entirely true... It comes in the JDM Accord.. I'm Driving one as we speak .
And yes Zim it is a K24 not a V6. The V6 is a 3.0L...
Comes with a 5speed Tiptronic though.. Yes it has lots of torque..Step on the Drive by Wire and it feels like a lil 2lbs of BOOST
Posted: August 7th, 2007, 6:24 pm
by Kinday
Dave wrote:ways boy, allyuh harsh
this question just stemmed from a convo last night with someone exploring this as an option
me drive an accord,
the v6 one maybe, great sports sedan there but out of my range
Hey Dave...buddy, ole pal...the Accord ain't all that bad meng...You know I won't lie to ya. Might be heavy no doubt but with a decent engine and a tighter suspension you can have some fun. Just PM me whenever you want to get some research in
...I know I may not have the engine that's being discussed but mine is alright.
Posted: August 9th, 2007, 8:08 am
by Dave
aye Kinday, whats going on bro
nah, the accord is a hell of a vehicle, build. integrity, the works
i know i can have fun but i don't have time to build something like i did with the b14 so i more or less looking for a built performer with maybe to do some add ons but thats it, hence the v6 one popped into mind
next yr i looking for a ride, this enquiry was me and another tuner having a discussion
btw, liking your setup
Posted: August 9th, 2007, 8:10 am
by SR
guess what car is returning to midway road
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