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doc123 wrote:chasemeifyoucan wrote:rollingstock
answer this,
If someone came into your home and raped or killed your wife or child, and then a vigilante who suffered at the hands of the same criminal, (and is fed up of the laws inability to apprehend said criminal) decides to take the law into his own hands and murder the said criminal who is hiding in his neighbour's yard, would you find it unjust? whatever the vigilantes motive may be, he ended the life of a criminal who would have most likely raped or killed other innocents.
Seriously though, while there may be others who ant to take his place, none will have the motivation that his insanity permitted. He wasn't just a guy who said "hey, let's blow people up", he created and ran this organisation based on his hate for the west. He believed in killing innocents in the name of his god.
chasemeifyoucan,
I'm glad you raised this point about revenge attacks and vigilantism.
You realize this is exactly how the Palestinians views the West and it's total support for Israel don't you?
After World War 2, Western Powers, just took over the Palestinian's land and gave it to the refugee Jews from Europe i.e the West. The Jews in turn literally slaughtered, raped and expelled the Palestinian's from their ancestral homeland and made them refugees in other countries, or prisoners inside what they call the State of Israel.
Now tell me when these people are abused, bombed, tortured and disposed of all identity and basic human rights with the blessing of the West, watching their children go through cycle after cycle of violence......can you really call them terrorists or vigilantes? or just freedom fighters?
People need to see\read what these Israelis did in the 1940s till now and see if your analogy above doesn't hold through to them as well. It made\makes them ripe for violent ideologies and religious fundamentalism and when you have people who are desperate and nothing to lose....violence is the only viable option in their eyes.
The US and the West has more blood on their hands...from their creation to their huge meddling in Central\ South America,South East Asia (US), China\Indian Wars (UK), North Africa (Uk,France,Italy) and in recent times the Middle Eastern Countries. Don't these people's have a right to harbor bad feelings against the West itself. Africa itself lost 1/6 of it's population to the slave trade and has never recovered.
Look at Bahrain, Yemen and Syria....how are those people different from Libya? but they are allowed to suffer... while the force of the West is brought to bear on Ghadaffi as an urgency i.e Oil and Gold.
This is a major rallying point for religious fundamentalists in the Middle East as they view it:
1.The White, mostly Christian West invaded and depopulated Palestine and gave it to White Jewish Europeans through force and brutality. Incidentally the only country in the Middle East to have WMDs is this same Israel, who is not part of the NPO. Iran (frmly Iraq) who is part of the NPO, faces sanctions and threats of war continuously. This is true Religious fundamentalism by the West who claim to oppose it...giving people (Jews) someone else's country on the basis of their religion and defending and arming them to the teeth.
2.The British split up and implanted puppet monarchies and other rulers in the Middle East that subjugated their people for years whilst keeping the oil supply safe for the West...Oil is the life blood of the west and the source of their developed societies through Industrialization, whilst the same Oil is a curse for the Middle Eastern people.
3.Countries like North Korea openly threaten Nuclear war, but are left alone, but Muslim Countries are always ripe for attack on mostly lies i.e WMDs and trumped up charges.
From the regular Joe on the Arab street it would definitely seem like it is a war on Islam by the Mostly Christian\Jewish West. Almost like unfinished business left over from the Crusades and the West's quest for Jerusalem...the result the rise of more religious fundamentalism. Right wing Christians\Jews also eagerly and excitedly await these confrontations...hey the RAPTURE needs these events to happen.
In the meantime, the rest of the world can only look on and wonder if this man made Armageddon is really going to happen anytime soon.
HITTLER wrote:the girls might not love ME, but for sure my WIVES and children ages 26-7 certainly do.
HITTLER wrote:the girls might not love ME, but for sure my WIVES and children ages 26-7 certainly do.
doc123 wrote:chasemeifyoucan wrote:rollingstock
answer this,
If someone came into your home and raped or killed your wife or child, and then a vigilante who suffered at the hands of the same criminal, (and is fed up of the laws inability to apprehend said criminal) decides to take the law into his own hands and murder the said criminal who is hiding in his neighbour's yard, would you find it unjust? whatever the vigilantes motive may be, he ended the life of a criminal who would have most likely raped or killed other innocents.
Seriously though, while there may be others who ant to take his place, none will have the motivation that his insanity permitted. He wasn't just a guy who said "hey, let's blow people up", he created and ran this organisation based on his hate for the west. He believed in killing innocents in the name of his god.
chasemeifyoucan,
I'm glad you raised this point about revenge attacks and vigilantism.
You realize this is exactly how the Palestinians views the West and it's total support for Israel don't you?
After World War 2, Western Powers, just took over the Palestinian's land and gave it to the refugee Jews from Europe i.e the West. The Jews in turn literally slaughtered, raped and expelled the Palestinian's from their ancestral homeland and made them refugees in other countries, or prisoners inside what they call the State of Israel.
Now tell me when these people are abused, bombed, tortured and disposed of all identity and basic human rights with the blessing of the West, watching their children go through cycle after cycle of violence......can you really call them terrorists or vigilantes? or just freedom fighters?
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rollingstock wrote:HITTLER wrote:the girls might not love ME, but for sure my WIVES and children ages 26-7 certainly do.
Fcuker
I ain't even have 1
~*Pãñdorą*~ wrote:rollingstock wrote:HITTLER wrote:the girls might not love ME, but for sure my WIVES and children ages 26-7 certainly do.
Fcuker
I ain't even have 1
Yuh mamie ain't give yuh permission yet!
pioneer wrote:Leh dem come tru, one done tell me he can't wait for the day my eyes hit the floor at his sword...or sumn so
outlaw101 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ&feature=player_embedded
fast forward to 6 mins and listen to what she has to say about bin laden 3 yrs ago, former prime minister of pakistan
zeeshan66 wrote:
RASC wrote:It was a joke to them, I dunno how the destabalising of your OWN country could be a joke.
RASC wrote:14 of your nation's children perished in those attacks.
Why am I not surprised---->
pioneer wrote:Leh dem come tru, one done tell me he can't wait for the day my eyes hit the floor at his "cutlash"...or sumn so
Bizzare wrote:Pioneer, I feel this ched might earn you an @ss whooping from the Muslim community
16 cycles wrote:too much micheal bay films...dispose body at sea - is megatron ?????
RASC wrote:You guys saw The Colbert Report last night? EPIC LOLZ... Oh man his writers are the best. John Stewart was on the money too, but Steve was gold
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