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pugboy wrote:nobody come up with a n95 ac filter yet ?adnj wrote:You choose AC or fresh air in a building. You don't get both unless you leave some windows open.redmanjp wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:redmanjp wrote:given this data that aerosols are much more likely than fomites (infected surfaces) too infect you shouldn't the Govt be mandating some type of ventilation for business under the 'new normal' protocols? the data shows zero cases linked to surfaces but some cases linked to aerosols.
https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html
I agree, all this nonsense of sanitizing places and wiping down sh*t have to stop. I fed up tell people for the get go that a virus like covid spreads in close quarters with poor ventilation.
My gym owner actually realized this and leaves to doors open, added a couple fans and leaves the AC one as well.
the AC is using fresh or recycled air?
There are chemical/biological/nuclear air filtratration systems; if your office chooses to install them. Central AC can have HEPA and MERV filters with high filtration numbers; if the blower motor was designed for them. But there is no air conditioning system that ports fresh air into a room. HVAC systems can but you don't generally install HVAC in anything but a vehicle that is sold in the tropics.Kenjo wrote:pugboy wrote:nobody come up with a n95 ac filter yet ?adnj wrote:You choose AC or fresh air in a building. You don't get both unless you leave some windows open.redmanjp wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:redmanjp wrote:given this data that aerosols are much more likely than fomites (infected surfaces) too infect you shouldn't the Govt be mandating some type of ventilation for business under the 'new normal' protocols? the data shows zero cases linked to surfaces but some cases linked to aerosols.
https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html
I agree, all this nonsense of sanitizing places and wiping down sh*t have to stop. I fed up tell people for the get go that a virus like covid spreads in close quarters with poor ventilation.
My gym owner actually realized this and leaves to doors open, added a couple fans and leaves the AC one as well.
the AC is using fresh or recycled air?
Ac has filters but the infected person has to breathe out then between the air reaching from them to the ac you will breathe in between as another person . Everything is to minimize the risks not totally eliminate them
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:this is where the sheit will hit the fan
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:this is where the sheit will hit the fan
Dizzy28 wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:this is where the sheit will hit the fan
Looking at the global stats this week to be reminded T&T are in the bottom quarter of countries for testing with even those highly developed countries of Equatorial Guinea and Rwanda above us.
How would we know if the shiet hit the fan?
Dohplaydat wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:this is where the sheit will hit the fan
I would say yes probably........I spoke to a couple of persons who returned recently and realized our quarantine procedures are a joke.
Firstly, I shall not say how I came across this information, but I can confirm that there were persons who tested positive in the 72 hours prior to travel, who then EDITED their PDF results to negative so that they could travel.
Secondly, persons are not tested after leaving the 7-day quarantine. One would have to assume this person actually was symptomatic and that's why he/she was tested while in quarantine.
In Barbados, all persons are tested after 3 days in quarantine and those from high-risk countries are asked to wait till their results are negative before leaving their quarantines.
This kind of slackness both on the state facilities and trinis is why we can't have nice things.
pugboy wrote:the test these folks walking with is a pdf ?Dohplaydat wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:this is where the sheit will hit the fan
I would say yes probably........I spoke to a couple of persons who returned recently and realized our quarantine procedures are a joke.
Firstly, I shall not say how I came across this information, but I can confirm that there were persons who tested positive in the 72 hours prior to travel, who then EDITED their PDF results to negative so that they could travel.
Secondly, persons are not tested after leaving the 7-day quarantine. One would have to assume this person actually was symptomatic and that's why he/she was tested while in quarantine.
In Barbados, all persons are tested after 3 days in quarantine and those from high-risk countries are asked to wait till their results are negative before leaving their quarantines.
This kind of slackness both on the state facilities and trinis is why we can't have nice things.
Coronavirus: UK variant 'may be more deadly'
Early evidence suggests the variant of coronavirus that emerged in the UK may be more deadly, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said.
However, there remains huge uncertainty around the numbers - and vaccines are still expected to work.
The data comes from mathematicians comparing death rates in people infected with either the new or the old versions of the virus.
The new more infectious variant has already spread widely across the UK.
Mr Johnson told a Downing Street briefing: "In addition to spreading more quickly, it also now appears that there is some evidence that the new variant - the variant that was first identified in London and the south east - may be associated with a higher degree of mortality.
"It's largely the impact of this new variant that means the NHS is under such intense pressure."
UK R number 'between 0.8 and 1'
Public Health England, Imperial College London, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the University of Exeter have each been trying to assess how deadly the new variant is.
Their evidence has been assessed by scientists on the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag).
The group concluded there was a "realistic possibility" that the virus had become more deadly, but this is far from certain.
Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's chief scientific adviser, described the data so far as "not yet strong".
He said: "I want to stress that there's a lot of uncertainty around these numbers and we need more work to get a precise handle on it, but it obviously is a concern that this has an increase in mortality as well as an increase in transmissibility."
Previous work suggests the new variant spreads between 30% and 70% faster than others, and there are hints it is about 30% more deadly.
For example, with 1,000 60-year-olds infected with the old variant, 10 of them might be expected to die. But this rises to about 13 with the new variant.
This difference is found when looking at everyone testing positive for Covid, but analysing only hospital data has found no increase in the death rate. Hospital care has improved over the course of the pandemic as doctors get better at treating the disease.
The new variant was first detected in Kent in September. It is now the most common form of the virus in England and Northern Ireland, and has spread to more than 50 other countries.
The Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine are both expected to work against the variant that emerged in the UK.
However, Sir Patrick said there was more concern about two other variants that had emerged in South Africa and Brazil.
He said: "They have certain features which means they might be less susceptible to vaccines.
"They are definitely of more concern than the one in the UK at the moment and we need to keep looking at it and studying this very carefully."
The prime minister said the government was prepared to take further action to protect the country's borders to prevent new variants from entering.
"I really don't rule it out, we may need to take further measures still," he said.
Last week the government extended a travel ban to South America, Portugal and many African countries amid concerns about new variants, while all international travellers must now test negative ahead of departure to the UK and go into quarantine on arrival.
pugboy wrote:2 repatriated nationals positive
like the tests they taking abroad before flying in bogus or wha
redmanjp wrote:did she break quarantine? was seen at a rally, the flight came back on the 11th. 11+14=25th January.
https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/shamfa-sister-get-exemption-to-travel-and-return/article_7fe1d7be-5101-11eb-bf95-5fc3905a1fef.html
redmanjp wrote:damn
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55768627Coronavirus: UK variant 'may be more deadly'
Early evidence suggests the variant of coronavirus that emerged in the UK may be more deadly, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said.
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