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Blaze d Chalice wrote:@Phone - What you planning to use that for?
Something telling me is to watch flim? (17" screen and DVD drive?)
Blaze d Chalice wrote:3080 "starting at" $700US which mean 3rd-party/AIB would be about 800, and then shortage/corvid might bring that up to 900 or more,
kamakazi wrote:I think it is overkill for a office PC; unless this office is planning to try out video editing or running VMs.
My CPU suggestion would be a 3100 or 3300x if they could be found at MSRP; I'm a bit hesitant about the 3200x seeing as it is a generation older and probably isn't supported by your current motherboard selection. From the intel camp consider a i3-10100; it is a bit of a dead end platform but you will eliminate the need for a cheap GPU purchase (not sure about the motherboards)
For motherboard have a look at the MSI B550M Pro-VDH WiFi; better power delivery, better heatsinks at a better price.
32GB is way too much I think (unless said client is running VMs on this machine)
For 15$ more get the 500GB SSD (might as well get the NVME drive as well since they cost the same, unless it is dramless)
Makes little sense getting a bunch of fans if the case has poor ventilation. Consider a Cooler Master Masterbox NR600 (w Temp Glass if you want that). You will give up that cable hiding bar in the NZXT though.
maj. tom wrote:What kind of office he working in so? Industrial Light & Magic?
A simple functional common office PC for 2020 is:
-8GB RAM
- Intel i5-8500 (which has an on-chip GPU Intel UHD Graphics 630) or later generation Intel i5.
- 256 GB SSD.
- A simple motherboard with at least 4 USB 3.0 ports.
For motherboard have a look at the MSI B550M Pro-VDH WiFi; better power delivery, better heatsinks at a better price.
32GB is way too much I think (unless said client is running VMs on this machine)
For 15$ more get the 500GB SSD (might as well get the NVME drive as well since they cost the same, unless it is dramless)
Makes little sense getting a bunch of fans if the case has poor ventilation. Consider a Cooler Master Masterbox NR600 (w Temp Glass if you want that). You will give up that cable hiding bar in the NZXT though.
maj. tom wrote:orr well if he doing CAD and other designs, then yeah, your picks good, including the GFx. I thought it was regular office thing which i why i referenced the Dell Opti-Plex builds.
kamakazi wrote:Waiting to see what the person had before.
Asus can make good boards and they can also make cheap boards. They know the nostalgia people have for the brand name so they have a bit of a tax on their name (you are essentially paying more money for the privilege of the name at the mid to lower price points; similar to an RGB tax where you pay more money to get fancy lights)
Don't know if you ever stumbled across Buildzoid (Actually Hardware Overclocking) on Youtube...make time to watch his videos
I see the justification for the RAM but $15 more to get double the storage...but you pull the trigger already.
Let us know how it goes.
Ted_v2 wrote:i very curious to know what that cpu is like in real life, On paper its a BEAST and benchmarks ect, I hope to purchase one soon enough because its such a deal, prob when they start to show up used on the market 3600 would work fine too.
i bought my 1600x for 700$ when the second gen launched, still works excellent and havent a need to upgrade yet.
All the parts are very overkill for what the guy needs and would last for years to come, the gpu is the weakest link but then again, the guy isnt doing anything GPU intense. Could slap in any anything and turn this into a gaming pc very quick if he turns to go that way along with a aftermarket air cooler.
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:^ Wasn't a tough purchase for me, went from 30 FPS on 1060 3GB to 70 FPS on RX 580 8GB
the 8GB VRAM is going to come in real handy very soon as next gen games releases watch and you will see.
At $140 which I paid for this 580 GTS XXX 8GB I didn't even consider any Nvidia alternative not even in the slightest.
With the arrival of faster SSD and games finally being designed and optimized solely for SSD, the reality of 0 load times no matter how large the stage/map
CPUs with 12 threads are a Absolute Minimum with 8 core and 16 threads more in the ball park, just not to bottleneck next gen SSD according to Linus Tech Tips, you seem to keep associating a Game Engine with cores, it isn't just Game Engines at play, it is also compression for next gen SSD that needs huge amounts of cores if you want that perfect seamless gaming experience.
For example PS5 is capable of swapping Textures from SSD TO VRAM instant, giving it the ability to make close up texture resolution seem more like you are dealing with a PC running a GPU with 1TB of VRAM. This is the key point you keep forgetting, have you not read or looked at EPIC's explanation of how next gen gaming will work on Unreal Engine 5
Watch the videos by Linus Tech Tips he explains it perfectly
I will say it again, people who are building a PC now get as much Cores and VRAM as you can, you need to match the Specs of a PS5 for the very least because games are going to be developed for PS5 and ported to PC
PS5 using a Ryzen 3950X it has 8 cores and 16 threads. A PC needs to match this for the minimum if you want any sort of future proofing at all.
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