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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1941 cases, 28 deaths, 1213 active, 700 discharged in T&T

Postby sMASH » September 3rd, 2020, 9:15 pm

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neilsingh100 wrote:New cases seems to holding at the peak of 60-70 / day for over 1 week now which is strange since it suppose to start gradually declining by now. From what I hearing there is little to no enforcement for positive cases that were told to home quarantine so looks like MOH strategy is herd immunity or a vaccine at this point.


the strategy is "learning to live with the virus"

(don't be elderly with pre-existing conditions)

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that is why u need the virus to spread. so that there will too few new people to infect, so that it just doest propagate. burn through enough that it fizzles out. but the susceptible people need to remain out of contact till then

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1984 cases, 29 deaths, 1255 active, 700 discharged in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » September 3rd, 2020, 9:22 pm

^ i don't want to get 'burn through' though.

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Postby nervewrecker » September 3rd, 2020, 9:36 pm

Well two dumbass who work for me decided to fake symptoms to get time off.

They forced a partial shutdown in a big company for sanatizing and a heap of reports have to write now. I myself end up in quarantine before they up and admit they faked it. One did a test and it showed negative, the other awaiting results.

They get permanent time off.

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Postby sMASH » September 3rd, 2020, 9:42 pm

paid_influencer wrote:^ i don't want to get 'burn through' though.

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Postby VexXx Dogg » September 3rd, 2020, 11:35 pm

nervewrecker wrote:Well two dumbass who work for me decided to fake symptoms to get time off.

They forced a partial shutdown in a big company for sanatizing and a heap of reports have to write now. I myself end up in quarantine before they up and admit they faked it. One did a test and it showed negative, the other awaiting results.

They get permanent time off.


lawwwwdddddddddd, you does reallly get the best of 'em

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1941 cases, 28 deaths, 1213 active, 700 discharged in T&T

Postby redmanjp » September 3rd, 2020, 11:53 pm

sMASH wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
neilsingh100 wrote:New cases seems to holding at the peak of 60-70 / day for over 1 week now which is strange since it suppose to start gradually declining by now. From what I hearing there is little to no enforcement for positive cases that were told to home quarantine so looks like MOH strategy is herd immunity or a vaccine at this point.


the strategy is "learning to live with the virus"

(don't be elderly with pre-existing conditions)

:drinking:

that is why u need the virus to spread. so that there will too few new people to infect, so that it just doest propagate. burn through enough that it fizzles out. but the susceptible people need to remain out of contact till then


that's like saying leh we start a huge bush fire and let it burn through all d bush so that there wouldn't be any bush to burn any more :roll:

So what happens in multigenerational households where u have high risk persons staying home mostly but others going out to work?

This herd immunity thing again essentially throws a tonne of high risk ppl under the bus. Sweden have a lot if deaths from remaining open.

The only way to reach herd immunity is when 60-70% if the population get it. Even places that were an epicentre for the virus like New York only reached 20%.
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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1984 cases, 29 deaths, 1255 active, 700 discharged in T&T

Postby Numb3r4 » September 4th, 2020, 1:02 am

COVID-19: Nature's Revenge, The Culling of the Herd.

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Postby FrankChag » September 4th, 2020, 3:45 am

Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
Strugglerzinc wrote:
sMASH wrote:by december so, the numbers will turn down. u will reach a peak infection rate, and it will be harder to find new hosts.

the only solution that could make a difference would be to cancel carnival 2021


NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN !!



Jus postpone it to May...


End of April makes the most sense but I'm happy with any carnival in second quarter of the 2021.



We zoomed the whole education system... Zoom Carnival too.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1941 cases, 28 deaths, 1213 active, 700 discharged in T&T

Postby sMASH » September 4th, 2020, 5:24 am

redmanjp wrote:
sMASH wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
neilsingh100 wrote:New cases seems to holding at the peak of 60-70 / day for over 1 week now which is strange since it suppose to start gradually declining by now. From what I hearing there is little to no enforcement for positive cases that were told to home quarantine so looks like MOH strategy is herd immunity or a vaccine at this point.


the strategy is "learning to live with the virus"

(don't be elderly with pre-existing conditions)

:drinking:

that is why u need the virus to spread. so that there will too few new people to infect, so that it just doest propagate. burn through enough that it fizzles out. but the susceptible people need to remain out of contact till then


that's like saying leh we start a huge bush fire and let it burn through all d bush so that there wouldn't be any bush to burn any more :roll:

So what happens in multigenerational households where u have high risk persons staying home mostly but others going out to work?

This herd immunity thing again essentially throws a tonne of high risk ppl under the bus. Sweden have a lot if deaths from remaining open.

The only way to reach herd immunity is when 60-70% if the population get it. Even places that were an epicentre for the virus like New York only reached 20%.


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how to go about acheiving herd immunity was more or less what we was doing before announcing elections. but what we wasnt doin was isolating the susceptible. those persons needed to be extra careful, THOSE are the ones that needed to be protected. so what we was supposed to do, those people be careful with their exposures to the outside world. if u harden, then ur dead. u explain the high risk groups to the nation, to educate them and how to go about being extra cautious. if ur in multigenerational homes, they need to have thier decon set up when entering thier homes. and its as simple as a outiside shower and changing all clothes before u enter the premises, for every one.
if thats too tough, the state should have places set up, the tent cities for people to be remained secluded. u have plenty hotels and stadiums not being used, so set it up there. u have guest houses in the beaches, eminent domain them, give teh owners a lil change and charge the citizens who want to isolate.

the alternative to that, are what new zealand is doing, and as soon as one foreign case comes in undetected, it jeopardizes the whole county, so long as it remains undetected.
and the other one is, what we HAVE done, not isolate the susceptible, but hold super spreader events. i eh talking bout bars and beach, i talking bout 600k+ persons for elections and causing people to line up for grants and social assistance. u got ur poll card int he mail, u sould have gotten ur social assistance that way too, via that same system.

since the roll back, what we are doing is the herd immunity route, like it or hate it. we just didnt implement measures to protect the susceptible. but people big and they have sense, so some did it themselves and others wearing mask on their chin and their ears.


the bad thing about covid 2, is that although u not reaching intensive care, u still might get heart, lung and other organ issues. its livable, just that u might not be the 100% active u was before covid 2

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1984 cases, 29 deaths, 1255 active, 700 discharged in T&T

Postby K74T » September 4th, 2020, 10:17 am

46 + cases and another death unfortunately

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Postby pugboy » September 4th, 2020, 10:45 am

icu/hdu still loaded up too

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Postby killercow » September 4th, 2020, 10:49 am

JW one of those ICU / HDU patients?

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Postby goalpost » September 4th, 2020, 10:59 am

I feel so

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1984 cases, 29 deaths, 1255 active, 700 discharged in T&T

Postby MaxPower » September 4th, 2020, 11:05 am

Good Morning Trinis,

Any wake up call yet?

How many more have to die?

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Postby RedVEVO » September 4th, 2020, 11:14 am

^^

If you smoke, vape or drink alcohol ..
and over 40

Tick, tick, tick ..

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Postby zoom rader » September 4th, 2020, 11:58 am

MaxPower wrote:Good Morning Trinis,

Any wake up call yet?

How many more have to die?


You seem happy that PNM did a Con job on TT with Covid.

Peoples life's are at risk and have died and you come with this BS.

Jah Curse you and kick u in the butt .

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Postby Dohplaydat » September 4th, 2020, 12:14 pm

I don't understand how so many people are dying yet HDU and ICU numbers barely changing.

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Postby redmanjp » September 4th, 2020, 12:46 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:I don't understand how so many people are dying yet HDU and ICU numbers barely changing.


As ppl die more becoming severely ill. Whoever high risk will ultimately end up in ICU or at least HDU

The adult male that was the last one they didn't say if he was elderly or had underlying conditions?

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 2030 cases, 30 deaths, 1293 active, 707 discharged in T&T

Postby bluefete » September 4th, 2020, 1:12 pm

paid_influencer wrote:(don't be elderly with pre-existing conditions)


I need some advice here.

An elderly aunt died on Monday. She was taken to Mt. Hope on Sunday evening with pre-existing conditions of pneumonia, diabetes and so on. She was real sick and suffering for a while.

Mt. Hope put her in the Covid ward because of her symptoms.

When she died, they did the Covid tests . One swab and a blood test.

Got one result today - The swab came back negative.

Then Mt. Hope told the family DO NOT COME BACK TO THE HOSPITAL. When we get the blood test results , we will call you.

Those results could take MAYBE TWO WEEKS OR MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They also said she is dead already so her results are not important.

What SHRITE is going on here????????????? A family is grieving and have no idea when her body will be released to them.

What recourse does the family have in this situation?

BTW - Is the CMO in Couva? Asking for a friend.

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Postby toyolink » September 4th, 2020, 2:01 pm

My understanding is that caring for Covid19 patients who are seriously ill is really more like the art of crisis management with continuous dedicate monitoring and using different cocktails of medication as conditions change.
The foreign doctors (infectious disease specialists) who I have spoken to, have all indicated that the work and commitment is totally exhausting and many are suffering from battle fatigue.
What is clear is the need for real dedicated and creative care supported by availability of 'all kinds of medication'.
With my understanding of our domestic health care circumstances, it appears almost impossible for us to replicate the performance capability of places like the USA which would result in really bad outcome numbers for us.
Please don't get ill and do all in your power to stay safe.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 2030 cases, 30 deaths, 1293 active, 707 discharged in T&T

Postby pugboy » September 4th, 2020, 2:19 pm

well right now the icu/hdu beds full or filling up
only a matter of time for a next step needed to be taken. can’t send them home to home icu and ventilator

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Postby K74T » September 4th, 2020, 3:58 pm

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Postby toyolink » September 4th, 2020, 5:04 pm

With the kinds of stats at this time, the temptation to start under reporting the numbers would become more real.
There is going to come a threshold when the populations support for the work being done by state agencies is going to wane and may be replaced with public outrage.
Covid19 prospers when public discord results in systemic breakdowns.

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Postby toyolink » September 4th, 2020, 5:04 pm

With the kinds of stats at this time, the temptation to start under reporting the numbers would become more real.
There is going to come a threshold when the populations support for the work being done by state agencies is going to wane and may be replaced with public outrage.
Covid19 prospers when public discord results in systemic breakdowns.

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Postby pugboy » September 4th, 2020, 5:08 pm

“start under reporting”?

them back squeezing them numbers long time


toyolink wrote:With the kinds of stats at this time, the temptation to start under reporting the numbers would become more real.
There is going to come a threshold when the populations support for the work being done by state agencies is going to wane and may be replaced with public outrage.
Covid19 prospers when public discord results in systemic breakdowns.

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Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 2030 cases, 30 deaths, 1293 active, 707 discharged in T&T

Postby MaxPower » September 4th, 2020, 5:16 pm

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Good Morning Trinis,

Any wake up call yet?

How many more have to die?


You seem happy that PNM did a Con job on TT with Covid.

Peoples life's are at risk and have died and you come with this BS.

Jah Curse you and kick u in the butt .


Hello Zoom,

I ask again,

ANY wake up call yet?

How many more have to die?

You really think it matters who did the better con job between UNC or PNM?

Come on zoomyblacks...focus.

Trinis have to do their part and get serious.

Why wait for someone to tell you when how and why to wear a mask? Why wait to wash your hands or sanitize IF the sign say so?

When is the wake up call?

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 2030 cases, 30 deaths, 1293 active, 707 discharged in T&T

Postby aaron17 » September 4th, 2020, 5:30 pm

*Whole police service gets corona.
Bandits : "ah yes..bes news"
*Media slaps it as fake news
Bandits:"nani?"

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Postby sMASH » September 4th, 2020, 5:33 pm

K74T wrote:Image

they shouldna debunk it. let it remain in the public space. let them fellas play they self and then let fraud squad raid them.

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Postby K74T » September 4th, 2020, 6:07 pm

Community spread in Jamaica confirmed by PM

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Another death and 10 more positive cases within T&T

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