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Strugglerzinc wrote:PH taxis are those who
- want to bling then pull a trip to pay the loan or WTO
- Vehicles cannot get up to scratch for taxi requirements
- Drivers themselves unsuitable for a CoC
There is already a framework in place for transport vehicles. Why try to accommodate an illegal activity?
eliteauto wrote:Strugglerzinc wrote:PH taxis are those who
- want to bling then pull a trip to pay the loan or WTO
- Vehicles cannot get up to scratch for taxi requirements
- Drivers themselves unsuitable for a CoC
There is already a framework in place for transport vehicles. Why try to accommodate an illegal activity?
Incorrect, this is the stigma and stereotype of PH, which panders to a certain narrative, it, however, is only one part. Do you know that rideshare app cars are PH, Europcar with their nice Accords , Jaguars and Range Rovers are PH, Furness and other executive driver services are PH? PH stands for using a Private car for Hire. People assume that someone works PH because they can't get a CoC so all PH drivers have criminal records? All PH cars cannot get "up to scratch" for taxi? What is the "scratch"? Many PH cars are in better condition than many route taxis, pleanty biases in here mixed with rum shop talk. Good suggestions OP
MG Man wrote:safe to say this discussion is about men who 'pull bull', not rideshare drivers
adnj wrote:It may not be correct to assume that ANY taxi is "safe".
DEATHS (2014 to 2018)
From 2014, Deaths attributed to providers based on negligence or assault from reports in the US, UK and Australia:
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS: 67
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO TAXI DRIVERS: 9
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO BUS DRIVERS: 12
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO RAIL TRAVEL PROVIDERS: 3
ASSAULTS
From 2014, Assaults of a non-sexual nature attributed to providers from reports in the US, UK and Australia:
ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS: 127
ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO TAXI DRIVERS: 14
ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO BUS DRIVERS: 6
ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO RAIL TRAVEL PROVIDERS: 4
SEXUAL ASSAULTS
From 2014, Assaults of a sexual nature attributed to providers from reports in the US, UK and Australia:
SEXUAL ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS: 482 *EPIDEMIC*
SEXUAL ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO TAXI DRIVERS: 14
SEXUAL ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO BUS DRIVERS: 0
SEXUAL ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO RAIL TRAVEL PROVIDERS: 0
https://ridesafeworld.com/database
redmanjp wrote:adnj wrote:It may not be correct to assume that ANY taxi is "safe".
DEATHS (2014 to 2018)
From 2014, Deaths attributed to providers based on negligence or assault from reports in the US, UK and Australia:
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS: 67
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO TAXI DRIVERS: 9
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO BUS DRIVERS: 12
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO RAIL TRAVEL PROVIDERS: 3
ASSAULTS
From 2014, Assaults of a non-sexual nature attributed to providers from reports in the US, UK and Australia:
ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS: 127
ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO TAXI DRIVERS: 14
ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO BUS DRIVERS: 6
ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO RAIL TRAVEL PROVIDERS: 4
SEXUAL ASSAULTS
From 2014, Assaults of a sexual nature attributed to providers from reports in the US, UK and Australia:
SEXUAL ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS: 482 *EPIDEMIC*
SEXUAL ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO TAXI DRIVERS: 14
SEXUAL ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO BUS DRIVERS: 0
SEXUAL ASSAULTS ATTRIBUTED TO RAIL TRAVEL PROVIDERS: 0
https://ridesafeworld.com/database
nothing is 100% safe but from those stats the rideshare ones are by far the most unsafe- the issue with PH is no COC as well as no insurance
any solution must include both as requirements - the issue of no PH allowed in taxi zones will discourage many- when teh H taxis are gone espiecially later at night it's the PH drivers u have to depend on.
nismotrinidappa wrote:It's a vicious circle. Due to the state of the country and crime many h drivers have stopped working late and or in the night or in certain areas. So ph drivers have stepped in there. And some of them are opportunistic criminals. Now if the policing and criminal justice system was working properly and drivers felt certain confidence and safety there would be taxis around more. I have gone through all the up and down to get a H badge and watch tantie and young girl bypass all the taxis on the stand and jump in Redman nice almera that he working to own.and speed off.
Every single day. Day and night. So some of the talk about no h cars is BS.
Blame the Travelling public
Police
Justice system
Government
You all created and fed the monster over the years
16 cycles wrote:Regulate it.....have all PH register with TTPS...at which point given unique QR code to place on car...have an app where passengers can scan and see details of driver etc...at point of scan...TTPS database registers passenger in particular car...
Or somethn like that...
Blaze d Chalice wrote:I never use uber when it was here, and I never use any of the other local alternatives.
But I use Uber in Farren and some others like Bolt and mytaxi and I find the Uber had the best UI/Info.
Do local apps give you the picture, name, phone number of driver, and number plate and model of car?
I realised Uber didn't work that way in all countries, but for some it did.
Country_Bookie wrote:Some good ideas here. I like the QR code suggestions. Only question is how to make it work for ppl who don't have data plans. We have to cater for the demographic who cannot afford to have data on their phones all the time.... those are likely to be the ones taking taxis as well.
For those who say just ban ph, they probably are not part of the daily travelling public. Hence have no idea of what it's like waiting in hot sun with 60 other ppl and it barely have any taxi working. Try explaining that when u reach to work late. Plus rural areas where there are no regular h taxis.
Country_Bookie wrote:Some good ideas here. I like the QR code suggestions. Only question is how to make it work for ppl who don't have data plans. We have to cater for the demographic who cannot afford to have data on their phones all the time.... those are likely to be the ones taking taxis as well.
For those who say just ban ph, they probably are not part of the daily travelling public. Hence have no idea of what it's like waiting in hot sun with 60 other ppl and it barely have any taxi working. Try explaining that when u reach to work late. Plus rural areas where there are no regular h taxis.
Country_Bookie wrote:Some good ideas here. I like the QR code suggestions. Only question is how to make it work for ppl who don't have data plans. We have to cater for the demographic who cannot afford to have data on their phones all the time.... those are likely to be the ones taking taxis as well.
For those who say just ban ph, they probably are not part of the daily travelling public. Hence have no idea of what it's like waiting in hot sun with 60 other ppl and it barely have any taxi working. Try explaining that when u reach to work late. Plus rural areas where there are no regular h taxis.
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