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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby aaron17 » February 9th, 2021, 1:42 pm

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Postby DMan7 » February 9th, 2021, 1:44 pm

So the death is sounding accidental then. The persons who struck her on her head didn't expect her to fall backwards causing her to crack the back of her skull?

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Postby aaron17 » February 9th, 2021, 1:47 pm

What about where the body was found. Can that kind of damage happen when they threw her there?

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Postby Dohplaydat » February 9th, 2021, 2:06 pm

DMan7 wrote:So the death is sounding accidental then. The persons who struck her on her head didn't expect her to fall backwards causing her to crack the back of her skull?


Accidental? You're a special kinda dotish

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby VII » February 9th, 2021, 2:08 pm

How the hell is that accidental?

That's called blunt force trauma!!!

She didnt slip and fall !! WTF ??


DMan7 wrote:So the death is sounding accidental then. The persons who struck her on her head didn't expect her to fall backwards causing her to crack the back of her skull?

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Postby DMan7 » February 9th, 2021, 2:09 pm

I was just analyzing the situation people hence the question mark, calm down. :roll:

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Ok redvevo

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby teems1 » February 9th, 2021, 2:32 pm

This thread is becoming difficult to follow with all the separate incidents, suspect deaths etc.

I think it would be easier someone to do up a timeline of incidents, including police involvement with the suspects.

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby MarlonSam » February 9th, 2021, 2:33 pm

Autopsy Findings for Andrea Bharatt..




Autopsy Findings for Andrea Bharatt..

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby MarlonSam » February 9th, 2021, 3:32 pm

2 men have confessed to being involved in abducting and robbing Andrea Bharatt.

BALCON TALKED, WHO IS "SON SON"?

Two men have confessed to being involved in abducting and robbing Andrea Bharatt.
They have however denied being involved in kidnapping and blamed each other for masterminding the crime.
One told police he did not rape her.
That one, serial rape/kidnap accused Joel Balcon, is dead.
The three other suspects are alive, in good health and in police custody.
Under interrogation by officers shortly after his arrest, one suspect said all he did was withdraw $5,000 using the bank card given to him by Balcon.
But when Balcon was arrested, he claimed he was merely the driver of the fake taxi in which Bharatt had the misfortune of entering the afternoon of January 29, at the Arima Taxi Stand.
Calling the name of one of the suspects in confessing, Balcon said that man was in the “taxi” and was the one who committed the robbery.
Balcon said when that man revealed himself as a criminal to Bharatt, she tried to fight.
She bit or cuffed that man in the face, Balcon told police. But then she accepted her fate, and gave them her possessions - cell phone, watch and bank card.
She just wanted to go home, said Balcon.
Bharatt never did go home.
Her body was found a week later off the Aripo Road, clad in underwear and blouse.
When questioned, Balcon said Bharatt’s hands were bound with tie wrap, her head forced down behind the driver’s side seat and she was taken to Arouca where she was handed over to a person he named as “Son Son”.
At the time Balcon spoke to the police (he was arrested January 31), he spoke confidently, giving an alibi which he said could prove that he had not kidnapped and kept Bharatt, or spoken with her father and threatened him.
He also implicated another person, Andrew “Solo” Morris, the man who owned a car that one suspect was paying him for.
Balcon said Morris had called him the day after Bharatt’s disappearance and told him he (Morris) knew they had money from a robbery since the Bharatt case was being reported on social media.
Morris was arrested at his home on January 31, and died at hospital days later. Relatives say he was beaten to death. Police say he was sickly and fell from a chair.
The death of Balcon and Morris are being investigated by the Police Complaints Authority.
WHAT THE SUSPECT SAID
The suspect in custody said on the afternoon Bharatt was robbed, he was at the Arima Taxi Stand when Balcon pulled up and he entered Balcon’s vehicle, a white Nissan Versa. He said two girls entered the car. One dropped at Cleaver Woods.
He said he dropped off at Sherwood Park. He said Balcon drove up the road and when he came back, he handed him a bank card, and gave him the personal identification number (PIN) for the card. He said he was told to go to the bank and withdraw $5,000. He said Bharatt was in the back seat. Asked how she looked, he said, “She was looking like she get robbed.”
The suspect said he withdrew the money and brought it for Balcon who gave him $2,200. He said he gave Balcon the bank card and left. He said he never took Bharatt into any house and that the only reason he knew Balcon, was from an introduction through Andrew “Solo” Morris.
WHAT BALCON SAID
Balcon went by names that include Devon Charles, Joel Ottley and the nickname Fabu, short for “fabulous”.
He gave police a different story.
He said he was on the taxi stand in his Nissan Versa which carried an old “H” plate that he had slapped on. The car, he said, was owned by someone else. He said Bharatt and another ‘girl’ got into the back seat. It was around 5p.m, he said, and Bharatt was sitting behind him. The suspect now in custody sat in the front passenger seat. When the other “girl” dropped off, the suspect climbed into the back seat and said it was a robbery.
Balcon them claimed he drove to Arouca ‘by the savannah’ and waited outside a house until they got the order to bring her in. He said he took Bharatt from his car and to the house. He said the people who owned the Nissan Versa wanted their car back so he called his sister who followed him to the homeowner’s residence when he left the car.
He said he kept the bank card, hoping that if the bank “didn’t cut it” he could withdraw more money the following day (Saturday). On Saturday, he said that “Solo” called to tell him about a ransom being demanded for Bharatt.
Balcon said he was not involved since he didn’t even have Bharatt’s phone, because the suspect had taken it. He said he called the suspect and told him to let the girl go. The suspect denied having Bharatt, said Balcon.
Balcon told police he did make a $5,000 withdrawal using Bharatt’s card, at Republic Bank, San Juan, the night after she was robbed.
And on the day of the robbery, the suspect used the card at a bank at Trincity.
WHAT DID YOU DO WITH ANDREA?
Balcon was asked if he had sexually assaulted Bharatt. He said he didn’t even touch her and was no killer.
Asked if Bharatt was injured, Balcon said she cuff or bit the suspect , but quieted down and told them to just take her money. He said she was not beaten, and was cooperating since she just wanted to go home. He said black tie straps were used to bound her hands and she was not blindfolded, just pushed down behind the seat.
Balcon’s condition deteriorated after being questioning.
Police say he sustained injuries in an escape attempt and ended up in the ICU of the Mt Hope Hospital with brain and spinal injuries. He slipped into a coma, and died on Monday afternoon.
At the time of his death, Balcon, who was charged with 70 crimes including five rapes, four kidnapping, robberies, larceny and assault, was out on bail on more than 40 charges.
Balcon, of Oropouche Road, Sangre Grande, was also being investigated in the disappearance and suspected murder of 17-year-old Teri Gomez in Arima 13 years ago.
The suspect and a female companion are among three people being questioned.

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby AbstractPoetic » February 9th, 2021, 3:41 pm

MarlonSam wrote:Autopsy Findings for Andrea Bharatt..




Autopsy Findings for Andrea Bharatt..


Drs. Sumu Gajula and Eslyn McDonald-Burris may have some explaining to do. How can something so obvious be missed?

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby Les Bain » February 9th, 2021, 3:42 pm

DMan7 wrote:So the death is sounding accidental then. The persons who struck her on her head didn't expect her to fall backwards causing her to crack the back of her skull?


More like they employed the usual overkill criminals use, which led to her death.

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby VII » February 9th, 2021, 3:57 pm

All that long story tells me is the police did a damn good job and and smashed a whole robbery kidnapping and murder ring...

Great job..

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby redmanjp » February 9th, 2021, 4:21 pm

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/second-autopsy-finds-andreas-cause-of-death/article_a79fb62c-6b00-11eb-88f3-d7504ef19f88.html

Second autopsy finds Andrea's cause of death
Carolyn Kissoon Feb 9, 2021
Kidnap victim Andrea Bharatt was struck with a blunt object on her forehead causing her to fall over. The impact resulted in a fractured skull and internal hemorrhaging.

This is according to activist Inshan Ishmael, who along with two other persons covered the cost of a private autopsy.

An autopsy performed at the Forensic Science Centre on Monday was unable to determine how Bharatt died.

The second autopsy was conducted by Professor Hubert Daisely at Boodoo's Funeral Home in Cunupia.

Saying he wanted the thousands of people who supported Bharatt and her family to know the truth, Ishmael revealed the findings of the autopsy in a live video on social media this afternoon.

He said, "As we promised yesterday I was not satisfied with the inconclusive report that we got from the pathologist yesterday in relationship to something like this. In fact, I stated yesterday that for me it is improbable that after just a few days the report could be inconclusive."

The findings were revealed to Bharatt's father before it was made public, he said.

Ishmael said, "I could tell you that Professor Daisley report is not inconclusive and he found the reason for her death. Andrea was struck on the forehead with something blunt and what that caused she fell back and her skull fractured and that caused hemorrhaging inside. The whole area inside the skull you could see it pinkish reddish colour...She died from internal hemorrhaging."

Ishmael said the pathologist also found puncture wounds on Bharatt's arm. However, he said, Daisely was unable to say whether the wounds were caused in the first autopsy.

Samples were taken to determine whether Bharrat was sexually assaulted.

He said an examination of the stomach indicated that Bharatt was not fed or did not eat in the hours before her death.

"This is not my child and I feel I am going through trauma. I want Mr Bharatt to know that we are standing with him and will support him through this," he said.

The Express was informed that both reports, the autopsy performed by the State and privately, would be admissible in the matter.

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby MaxPower » February 9th, 2021, 4:28 pm

Sigh,

These suspects can basically anything because the others are dead.

We may never know exactly what happened but i still have a great sense of satisfaction in me as they were moreless beaten to death.

The others suspects should also be dealt with.

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby MaxPower » February 9th, 2021, 4:35 pm

Is there a Vigilante whatsapp group?

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Postby daring dragoon » February 9th, 2021, 5:17 pm

all of a sudden they finding bones everywhere, man rape and on the run, a few women say they almost was kidnapped, a few say men was following them, a few young girls missing jus so jus so. is all this fake news in order to call a SOE or distract from something big going down? covid take back burner, illegal vene take back burner, food price increase take back burner? hadda wait and see with guarded breath yes.

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby Chimera » February 9th, 2021, 5:25 pm

Hadda be realistic.
Them fellas who dead was criminals.
The other fella family say they knew he did robberies and had drug and assault cases.
Criminalsssss

This one had 70 charges....a string of people accuse him....


The people who showing pity are the ones who wanted them fellas on the road robbing and raping and distressing the innocents.

firetruck em

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Postby Dohplaydat » February 9th, 2021, 5:30 pm

daring dragoon wrote:all of a sudden they finding bones everywhere, man rape and on the run, a few women say they almost was kidnapped, a few say men was following them, a few young girls missing jus so jus so. is all this fake news in order to call a SOE or distract from something big going down? covid take back burner, illegal vene take back burner, food price increase take back burner? hadda wait and see with guarded breath yes.


Covid is not really an issue with our climate, I welcome the illegal venes, and all trinis will do is shrug and accept food price increase.

While some of these stories might not be true, I do beleive many of them. This is a story my ex told me. She was very panic-stricken after the experience.

Several years ago, 2 men approached her car upon parking at a mall car park. She didn't notice until she came out of the car, and they asked her what she come to buy and if she was leaving (she had just parked up which they obviously knew). She ignored them thinking they were beggers and locked the car and went into the mall. She walked just 2 cars away from where she parked, and suddenly they grabbed her butt and crotch from behind and then ran off. Quick grope and run, weird AF.

She informed security immediately of what happened and they told her these two guys have been doing that to women for the past month or so. They called police, they had them on camera etc, nothing was done and as far as I know they weren't caught,
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Postby Numb3r4 » February 9th, 2021, 7:19 pm

daring dragoon wrote:would legalizing prostitution and hoe houses cause a decrease in rape ?
man planting weed i hear weed price drop so maybe it can work for sexual abuse idk.


Think about retail and the customers they have to deal with, look at how folks treat merchandise and the very attitude to the goods and then try to figure what you think would happen if you legalized prostitution.

Overall it sounds like a good idea and some places have made it work however these places tend to have very good institutions that can support the industry, police and health care and an on point justice system.

However some places have seen an increase in human trafficking, with it, prostitution, being legal then trafficked persons are brought in and are now legitimately working for more sophisticated "pimping arrangements".

Also you may have the greater prevalence of at-risk behaviour being introduced to the general population, this may provide a boost to local business but with time and without proper support at risk behaviour can turn on the very community, general perception can also have an affect on the areas that allow the activity, even of its legal.

Now you can't just compare weed, a plant to well a woman, they are two very different things, one is more product than the other. Supply and demand might work a bit different. As a matter of fact the act of sex is more service, now if you flood the market with anything the price might go down especially of you have no quality control.

With sex and women you might have to factor in the beauty standard and what effect that might have on the pricing arrangement, would this lead to an inclusive market or would this lead to a market that prices those who want it out, leading them to perpetuate the behaviour that legalizing prostitution was supposed to alleviate.

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby Numb3r4 » February 9th, 2021, 8:11 pm

What I want to know is how could the 2 different autopsies be so different?

Could anyone shed some light on what goes on in an autopsy?
That brings into question the quality of the state's resources and the outcomes.
It only adds to the list of improperly functioning institutions.

Could someone really shed some light on the difference between the state autopsy and the private autopsy?
Is it the product of a dysfunctional institution or are the conspiracy theories and "cover-up" scenarios more true than false.

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Postby paid_influencer » February 9th, 2021, 8:11 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:Think about retail and the customers they have to deal with, look at how folks treat merchandise and the very attitude to the goods and then try to figure what you think would happen if you legalized prostitution.


I think you've made a compelling case why prostitution should be regularized. These women need some mechanism for legal protection against pimps/johns/clients. The women do not need to be classified as criminals.

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Postby Numb3r4 » February 9th, 2021, 8:31 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
Numb3r4 wrote:Think about retail and the customers they have to deal with, look at how folks treat merchandise and the very attitude to the goods and then try to figure what you think would happen if you legalized prostitution.


I think you've made a compelling case why prostitution should be regularized. These women need some mechanism for legal protection against pimps/johns/clients. The women do not need to be classified as criminals.


Yes to some extent legalizing prostitution does tend to lower the need for pimps and such folk as the women can now act on their own, they are now independent service providers and sex contract workers effectively. Those who also work within the system also report better working conditions, many forming a kind of union and collective thus enabling them rent and occupy better rooms with private security. It does improve the clientele as well or at the very least the bahaviour.

But I like to think that I posted a little of BOTH sides so while they are "free-er" it doesn't take away from health risk, in a place with good health care, with disease testing and abortions, significantly reduce the overall risk to BOTH parties. However in a place like T&T you can quickly see how that won't end well.

Also in places were you have a large flow of people there is the possibility of increased instances of trafficking, now the legal girls, the local girls who are citizens don't really have to worry if it legal but some enterprising folks may set up and run brothels thus benefitting from the legalization a sort of human sex laundering. In a place like T&T with our border situation and money problems you see how the situation as noble and forward thinking as it is quickly degenerates.

If we had good institutions it wouldn't be a problem, then though it would be a matter of public perception.

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Postby paid_influencer » February 9th, 2021, 8:36 pm

I was thinking more along the lines of jurisdictions where the act of soliciting a prostitute is illegal, but the prostitute herself is not criminalized. That will go a long way to protecting women, many of whom are the same age as Andrea.

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Postby alfa » February 9th, 2021, 8:53 pm

paid_influencer wrote:I was thinking more along the lines of jurisdictions where the act of soliciting a prostitute is illegal, but the prostitute herself is not criminalized. That will go a long way to protecting women, many of whom are the same age as Andrea.

So the client alone is going to be punished? Kinda huge over correction for gender inequality I'd say. Either fully legalize or fully criminalize for both the service provider and clients

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Re: Arima woman kidnapped, found dead

Postby paid_influencer » February 9th, 2021, 9:03 pm

alfa wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:I was thinking more along the lines of jurisdictions where the act of soliciting a prostitute is illegal, but the prostitute herself is not criminalized. That will go a long way to protecting women, many of whom are the same age as Andrea.

So the client alone is going to be punished? Kinda huge over correction for gender inequality I'd say. Either fully legalize or fully criminalize for both the service provider and clients


criminalizing both forces women to hide and get locked up (or deported) for reporting victimization or abuse. You want the police to work hand-in-hand with these communities against predators like the one that killed Andrea.
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Postby MaxPower » February 9th, 2021, 9:20 pm

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